Will iMac get a refresh? Should I buy one now?


Nismo73

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My theory, they release an updated iMac with Thunderbolt 2, the updated Haswell and Nvidia 8xx series earlier than the fall (May - June) which builds up demand by late fall 2015 for the 4K iMac.
 

PatriotInvasion

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My theory, they release an updated iMac with Thunderbolt 2, the updated Haswell and Nvidia 8xx series earlier than the fall (May - June) which builds up demand by late fall 2015 for the 4K iMac.
I think this is accurate, but I wouldn't be surprised if the spec bump doesn't come until the October/Fall event like last year. I agree that a 4K iMac anywhere south of $2,499 won't be coming until late 2015. Maybe sooner if they think people will actually pay a crazy price tag.
 

keigo

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My theory, they release an updated iMac with Thunderbolt 2, the updated Haswell and Nvidia 8xx series earlier than the fall (May - June) which builds up demand by late fall 2015 for the 4K iMac.
Why still Haswell, I though should be going to Broadwell instead?
 

keigo

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that is just rumor...and since when rumor become accuracy source? Beside if you read....

"Regardless, for most of Apple's lineup the 2014 chip updates will be fairly minor until Broadwell is ready to go late this year or early next year."

Apple is well know of delaying just to get the right chip which is Broadwell and I don't see why they wont wait it out...
 

chelch

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that is just rumor...and since when rumor become accuracy source? Beside if you read....

"Regardless, for most of Apple's lineup the 2014 chip updates will be fairly minor until Broadwell is ready to go late this year or early next year."

Apple is well know of delaying just to get the right chip which is Broadwell and I don't see why they wont wait it out...
There's no Broadwell until 2015. Either they wait or they do the spec bump or both. I'd still wait until the summer/fall to see if they bump it and go to the 850m which is more than worth the wait.
 

PatriotInvasion

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There's no Broadwell until 2015. Either they wait or they do the spec bump or both. I'd still wait until the summer/fall to see if they bump it and go to the 850m which is more than worth the wait.
If you do anything that would tax the graphics card perhaps, but if the OP is just looking for an iMac now, the current specs are excellent.
 

chelch

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If you do anything that would tax the graphics card perhaps, but if the OP is just looking for an iMac now, the current specs are excellent.
The OP is wondering if they should buy now or wait for a refresh. IMO they should wait for the refresh because it's probably happening May - July and it's significant. Unless of course they're getting the base I5 with Iris Pro, which won't get bumped, so they can get one now.
 

PatriotInvasion

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The OP is wondering if they should buy now or wait for a refresh. IMO they should wait for the refresh because it's probably happening May - July and it's significant. Unless of course they're getting the base I5 with Iris Pro, which won't get bumped, so they can get one now.
Depends on if the OP is considering the 21.5" or if he's only looking at the 27". The base 27" comes with the NVIDIA GeForce GT 755M with 1GB video memory which would be more than fine for most everyone.
 

chelch

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Depends on if the OP is considering the 21.5" or if he's only looking at the 27". The base 27" comes with the NVIDIA GeForce GT 755M with 1GB video memory which would be more than fine for most everyone.
That's what you just got right? Like 3 days ago? So you're trying to justify your purchase. The 850m comes with 2Gb and is 60% more powerful than the 750m. Since there's no word on an 855m the new 27" should start with an 860m which is also 2Gb and more powerful than the 770m. I'm glad you're happy with your new iMac, I wish I had one, but I think it's better to wait for the summer refresh. It could be less than 2 months away.
 

PatriotInvasion

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That's what you just got right? Like 3 days ago? So you're trying to justify your purchase. The 850m comes with 2Gb and is 60% more powerful than the 750m. Since there's no word on an 855m the new 27" should start with an 860m which is also 2Gb and more powerful than the 770m. I'm glad you're happy with your new iMac, I wish I had one, but I think it's better to wait for the summer refresh. It could be less than 2 months away.
I did indeed and spent a lot of time on these forums before I made my decision to pull the trigger. Just pointing out that unless the OP is a gamer or professional video editor, I don't think a graphics card update is worth waiting for for what is already a perfectly capable graphics card in the existing models.

And a May or even June iMac refresh seems a little early for a machine that was just updated in late Sept. Perhaps late July into August or even in the Fall if Apple stays consistent to the typical refresh cycle for the iMac historically. Waiting until mid summer for a graphics card and clock speed boost to Haswell seems excessive IMO. That's my advice to the OP. If you feel differently than so be it.
 

keigo

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There's no Broadwell until 2015. Either they wait or they do the spec bump or both. I'd still wait until the summer/fall to see if they bump it and go to the 850m which is more than worth the wait.
Well it will always be the same talk..

if you can wait then you can wait forever cause there will always be a newer better one coming out...

If you need it now then just buy.

iMac was release last Sept which is just coming to 6 months old or Mid cycle. And there is still a long way to go before another refresh going to take place. Base on the past history track.. which normally take 200~300 days.

So a summer refresh chance is close to 0%.

If you can wait then might as well wait till 2015 on the hope for 4k.
 

Serban

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i think the only component ready for the imac is the gpu, Geforce 880M with 8 Gb vRAM. The cpu is not ready

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and i don't think the first generation of 4K iMac will be flawless
 

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Quite frankly, I don't think the next iMac model is that much worth waiting for, if there are no extra suprises in store for us. AFAIK the 880M is pretty much a 780M with more vram, and it also has the same throttling issues that 780M has, with makes 880M less than ideal for overclocking. (in other words I'm still more than content with my 680MX.)
 

iydkmigthtky

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Quite frankly, I don't think the next iMac model is that much worth waiting for, if there are no extra suprises in store for us. AFAIK the 880M is pretty much a 780M with more vram, and it also has the same throttling issues that 780M has, with makes 880M less than ideal for overclocking. (in other words I'm still more than content with my 680MX.)
the clock speed is also significantly higher, resulting in a 10 - 15% better performance, just as the 780M is 10 - 15% more powerful than the 680MX. moreover, additional VRAM is always nice to have.
 

chelch

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Quite frankly, I don't think the next iMac model is that much worth waiting for, if there are no extra suprises in store for us. AFAIK the 880M is pretty much a 780M with more vram, and it also has the same throttling issues that 780M has, with makes 880M less than ideal for overclocking. (in other words I'm still more than content with my 680MX.)
Agreed if you're planning on getting the 27" with the 780m, it's not worth waiting for the refresh. Not for 15%. But if you're looking at the 750m, then that's where waiting is worth it IMO.
 

CoMoMacUser

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I recommend waiting for the refresh because even if it turns out that you don't need those specs, the new models will prompt resellers to deeply discount the previous gen.
 

Mac32

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the clock speed is also significantly higher, resulting in a 10 - 15% better performance, just as the 780M is 10 - 15% more powerful than the 680MX. moreover, additional VRAM is always nice to have.

That's right, but I've read that both 780M and 880M have serious throttling issues, making the 680MX more stable at higher overclocks (without automatically clocking down). Therefore the real difference is quite a bit lower (who games with a 680MX at default clock, that's a terrible waste of performance). This is a rather disappointing development with the X80M line IMO.
I haven't tested those X80M cards myself, this is just from reading various reviews and forums on the Internet.