iPad Will iPad 4 get iOS 8

Discussion in 'iPad' started by Nanasaki, Apr 22, 2014.

  1. Nanasaki macrumors 6502

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    Just curious that if iPad 4 will get iOS eight update. I just purchased iPad four after some discount from Best Buy. I have a week to return, if iPad does not get iOS eight, I will return it.
     
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  3. HenryDJP macrumors 603

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    For the people that answer YES they would have to be a developer and have access to the OS which I don't think is even available to Developers. For anyone else saying YES it's purely speculation however it's a good chance that it will. Keep in mind since the iPad 4 is currently 1 generation behind and the iPad Air is late in it's product cycle, while there a good chance that the iPad 4 will be able to install and run iOS 8, there's also a chance that Apple could make only certain features of iOS available on the Air and future iPads.
     
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  5. ionjohn macrumors 65816

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    Will iPad 3 support iOS 8? It's getting harder right?! :D
     
  6. MisakixMikasa macrumors 6502a

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    Will iPad Air Air Air Air Air get iOS 8?

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    Will iPad 3 support iOS 8? It is getting ever harder right? :D
     
  7. Traverse macrumors 603

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    I think it will, but it won't support it well (like the iPhone 4 with iOS 7.0). I won't update and will use iOS 7.x unless I get the next gen iPad Air. Still on the fence.
     
  8. Menel macrumors 603

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    Missing features, but performance should be good.

    1gb ram like Air.
    Its dual core cpu miles ahead of single core iPhone 4. Not going to be performance starved as fast. Non of the SMP chips are, 4S included.
     
  9. Count Blah macrumors 68030

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    I would say no. Apple having stopped selling the iPad 2 pretty much assures that neither will go to 8.
     
  10. MisakixMikasa macrumors 6502a

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    iOS 7 runs pretty terribly on iPad 3... I would imaging iOS 8 runs on iPad 3....
     
  11. BrettApple macrumors 65816

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    I'm not one to speculate much. But I'd take a gander that anything with an A5 will get iOS 8. At least that would be reasonable. Knowing Apple, they may drop due to age, and not necessarily lack of power.

    I say this because the iPad mini is basically a smaller iPad 2, and it was released in 2012 with iOS 6. Also the iPod touch 5G and iPhone 4s are both still shipping, so I would expect them to get it as well. Unless they take them off the market right before the reveal like the iPod touch 4th gen when it got replaced by the 16GB 5th gen.

    Previous iOS releases dropping devices were all for a reason. iPod touch 4G, iPad 1, and 3Gs all only have 256MB RAM, not enough to run iOS 7 with any reasonable performance. The iPhone 4 just squeaked by because it has double the RAM, though the CPU and GPU are the same, thus the slower, but usable, performance.

    This would be my reason I can't say 100%. This is mainly due to the iPad 3 having to push a LOT more pixels than the iPad 2 with the same CPU. They did improve the GPU to help it out, and that was fine with iOS 5/6. But 7 is just more graphically demanding for them. 7.1 has improved it a good deal however. As far as speed goes, it's pretty quick. It's the GPU that struggles. It also has 1GB RAM to help with the higher resources required for 4x the pixels.
     
  12. ionjohn macrumors 65816

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    Maybe they'll make tops of optimization, I sure hope so.
     
  13. christarp macrumors 6502

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    I think ipad 3 would be able to run iOS8 as well as ipad 4 (especially since they're selling the ipad 4 again)

    They both have the same amount of ram (1GB), just the a5x and a6x are the major differences. The main limiting factor for which devices get what iOS version has historically been because of RAM.

    ipad 1 and iphone 4 are both on the A4 processor (and the A4 is extraordinarily slow compared to pretty much everything), yet the ipad 1 is locked to ios 5.1.1, whereas the iphone 4 is on 7.1 now. This is because the ipad 1 only has 256MB of ram, compared to the iphone 4's 512MB.

    While the ipad 3 is "slow" it's mainly due to the new graphical effects implemented in iOS 7 (and pushing all those pixels on an A5X), and in iOS 8 I don't see them implementing new graphical effects that change all that much from iOS 7 (see transitioning from iOS 5 to 6). The main killer here will be RAM, each new generation ram usage climbs, yet even the ipad 2 can run iOS 7 "okay" despite the 512MB of ram, because iOS is already very good at managing cpu work.

    Now, will the ipad 2 support iOS 8? Well considering they're still selling the original non-retina mini (which is basically the ipad 2), it's hard to say. If it does that will give the ipad 2 a really long life. I want to say that the ipad 2 is the cutoff for ios 8 (as in ipad 2 and non-retina ipad mini, as well as iphone 4 being limited to 7.1), but who knows.
     
  14. mtneer macrumors 68020

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    Why would they spend the effort on optimization. The iPad 3 is no longer sold and the number of owners is always going down. And why provide a disincentive for people to upgrade?
     
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    They did it with iOS 7 and iOS 8 will likely be "iOS 7.2"
     
  17. mtneer macrumors 68020

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    When iOS 7 was released the iPad 3 had been out of production for about a year. Come iOS 8 it would at least be 2 years.

    But going to my original point, while Apple may very we'll release iOS 8 on the iPad 3; I do not think they will sink resources and time in optimizing for an ever shrinking user base of iPad 3 users instead of spending those resources for the future. There will be also be plenty of kinks to smoother out on the latest generation hardware as is...
     
  18. Tsepz macrumors 65816

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    Yes, I'm sure it will, maybe with some features missing, although HW wise the iPad 4 and Air don't differ hugely, except CPU/GPU, I'm not aware of any "extra" HW the Air may have over the 4 meaning they should get the same features but you never know.
     
  19. Menel macrumors 603

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    BS
    It was released in 2012. That's only 2 years ago. AppleCare is only just expired for the early adopters, others are still covered. They should all still be fully functional, there is no reason they should either
    1. be dying off and bricking
    nor 2. people dumping them in the trashcan/landfill in mass quantities.
     
  20. Julien macrumors G3

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    There is a slight chance that iOS 9 may be 64-bit. This would be to iOS the way Mountain Lion was on OS X.
     
  21. Skika macrumors 68030

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    So no iOS9 for iPhone 5C? Highly unlikely.
     
  22. Julien macrumors G3

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    As I said "slight". Apple is almost certain to move to 64-bit (or why make 64 bit iDevices?). They could make iOS9 with 2 kernels or they could even have 2 iOS signed at the same time (iOS8.2... for 32 bit and iOS 9 for 64 bit).
     
  23. Skika macrumors 68030

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    They already did that, iOS7 is 64bit on A7 devices.
     
  24. MisakixMikasa macrumors 6502a

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    It really take long time for OS X became 64 bit exclusive. The first 64 bit Mac was PowerPC G5 if I remembered correctly. The first 64 bit exclusive OS was Mac OS X Lion. The first G5 machine release around 2006 and the first 64 bit exclusive OS released around 2011. There is 5 years gap.

    I think Apple,would not move that fast. I think iOS 9mwould be complied on 32 bit as well. iOS 10 would be the turninig point
     

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