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Henry Li

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iPhone is now one of the most popular mobile phones.

If Apple releases a SIM-unlocked iPhone with a lower price, do you think Apple will lead the market of mobile phones someday replacing Nxkia?
 
I believe Nokia has the highest market share when it comes to mobile phones.

and what does this mean? Is Windows a standard of anything?(rhetorical, I really don't care) I know i'm exaggerating but still, we're talking about different markets.. I doubt Apple will make 20$ phones with interchangeable covers, a thousand keys, removable batteries, no syncing with anything, 1.5" screens. As far as I'm concerned Nokia is still to make a cellphone directly competing with the iPhone.
 
and what does this mean? Is Windows a standard of anything?(rhetorical, I really don't care) I know i'm exaggerating but still, we're talking about different markets.. I doubt Apple will make 20$ phones with interchangeable covers, a thousand keys, removable batteries, no syncing with anything, 1.5" screens. As far as I'm concerned Nokia is still to make a cellphone directly competing with the iPhone.


Most people in the world are fine with $20 phones with interchangeable covers, a thousand keys, removable batteries, no syncing with anything and 1.5" screens. And Nokia does a fine job at making those phones, hence, they are the market leader.

The question asked was if Apple would replace Nokia and Samsung as the leader in the mobile phone market. Since a cheap Nokia and an iPhone are both mobile phones, the answer is no. Apple may one day lead in the smartphone market, but they will never lead in the mobile phone market.
 
Most people in the world are fine with $20 phones with interchangeable covers, a thousand keys, removable batteries, no syncing with anything and 1.5" screens. And Nokia does a fine job at making those phones, hence, they are the market leader.

The question asked was if Apple would replace Nokia and Samsung as the leader in the mobile phone market. Since a cheap Nokia and an iPhone are both mobile phones, the answer is no. Apple may one day lead in the smartphone market, but they will never lead in the mobile phone market.

in that case I doubt Apple will be a direct competitor with Nokia/Samsung. It would kind of be Apple downfall, same goes for a normal netbook.
 
You are talking about companies that have been in the business longer and have a reputation for producing reliable phones. Some people hate the iPhone and smartphones in general because of its complexity. Some people just want a phone for the sake of its phone functionality and could care less about using the internet on the go. When the iPhone came out, people criticized Apple for not understanding the whole phone concept with complaints of dropped calls and functionality you'd find on something like a Razor, such as copy and paste. I think the iPhone appeals more to a youthful crowd who grew up using the advances in technology, which although is a large population..is not all of the population. Hell, my uncle won't even let go of his old school NES and Super Nintendo and refuses to upgrade. I think he has an Atari too somewhere.
 
When the iPhone came out, people criticized Apple for not understanding the whole phone concept with complaints of dropped calls and functionality you'd find on something like a Razor, such as copy and paste.

Apple is adding copy/paste to the iPhone. And the iPhone isn't exactly difficult to use - my iPod touch is easier to use than my "basic" Nokia 6230i.
 
Apple is adding copy/paste to the iPhone. And the iPhone isn't exactly difficult to use - my iPod touch is easier to use than my "basic" Nokia 6230i.
Your definition of ease is strictly subjective. And yes copy/paste is coming with 3.0 although it only took several years to become a standard feature.
 
Your definition of ease is strictly subjective.

What do you mean by that? The Nokia is OK for just calling and SMS, but I can't really see how the iPhone would be worse based on the iPod Touch, and its calendar and other more advanced features are much more difficult to use...

although it only took several years to become a standard feature.

So what? This thread is about the future.
 
There is no way Apple will become the standard in mobile phones unless Apple lowers its standards or the whole world inherits some money. The majority simply cannot afford the iPhone, therefore even if they wanted it they are forced to buy that $25 Nokia or take the free Samsung that is given away with a new plan. Because of this there will be more Nokias and Samsungs being used in the world then there will ever be iPhones being used.

It's simple economics.
 
Funny comparison you are making. Samsung and Nokia's bulk business is entirely different than Apple's target audience, and they're both behind Apple and Blackberry in the smartphone market where Apple's only phone belongs.

So the question is nullified with false premise.
 
In terms of pure unit sales, Apple will never beat Nokia, simply because Apple will only have one device per year, whereas Nokia will have all manner of devices, in all price points, and levels.
 
no, it takes time, and I believe they got more than %3 already, of GLOBAL market. But they just have to keep releasing new firmware and new phones to keep it up. Also their app store is making more money then the sales of phones, that's why iphones are getting cheaper, the more iphones sold, the more people buy from itunes, its genius idea.
 
In terms of pure unit sales, Apple will never beat Nokia, simply because Apple will only have one device per year, whereas Nokia will have all manner of devices, in all price points, and levels.

Absolutely! - plus the fact that not everyone likes/wants an iPhone. To some it's too big and not much more than a boy's toy. As a friend of mine says "who wants to play games and listen to music on a 'phone? - I want a phone to communicate with!"

I must admit, in many ways, he's got a point! ;)
 
Absolutely! - plus the fact that not everyone likes/wants an iPhone. To some it's too big and not much more than a boy's toy. As a friend of mine says "who wants to play games and listen to music on a 'phone? - I want a phone to communicate with!"

I must admit, in many ways, he's got a point! ;)

If I had the money, I would consider getting an iPhone solely for the reason that it organizes your voicemails like emails, and still use it just like a phone.
 
Absolutely! - plus the fact that not everyone likes/wants an iPhone. To some it's too big and not much more than a boy's toy. As a friend of mine says "who wants to play games and listen to music on a 'phone? - I want a phone to communicate with!"

I must admit, in many ways, he's got a point! ;)

Maybe they'll release more models like they did with the iPod...
 
I don't think Apple has any intention of becoming THE leader in the mobile phone market. It's just not their style. I don't ever think Apple is going to come out with a basic flip or candy-bar phone. Just as I don't expect Ferrari to come out with a basic 4-door sedan.

Yes, I used a car as a comparison. :p
 
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