Will mMp be using the new x series fom intel?

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by pat500000, May 30, 2017.

  1. pat500000 macrumors G3

    pat500000

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    I read from forbe website and it looks like the new x series /i9 might be the one being used for the mac pro. What say you?
     
  2. wallysb01 macrumors 65816

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    Well, it doesn't support ECC and PCIe lane count is limited until 10 core, which would make things hard implement across a range of processor options. I still think the Xeon Gold series chips will go into a Mac Pro, but the Skylake X could be used in this iMac Pro?
     
  3. pat500000 thread starter macrumors G3

    pat500000

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    Maybe. But maybe it could be used for imac rather than mac pro but gold and platinum already been released, right?
     
  4. deconstruct60 macrumors 604

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    Xeon Gold ( 2+ sockets) is a different socket. Perhaps Intel will leave Xeon E5 1600 v5 alone as a product name. They don't need a silly new name for the workstation line up that shares the same dies as the 6+ core members of the x series. I think Intel may have stripped the core baseline of the Gold die and stuffed them into the package for the 2066 socket though. ( the somewhat unspecified as of yet upper end of the new Core i9 options. ). Similar to how Intel has stuffed mainstream design (still with 16 lane limitation) into 2066 socket also.

    They PCIe lane is highly likely the same kneecapping that Intel doesn't do the Xeon E5 1620 , *30 , and *50. ( although the 20 and 30 are kneecapped by clock speed). It probably wouldn't exist in the workstation line up.

    You mean Kaby-X ? the 4/8 (core/thread) and 4/4 of respectively i7-7740X and i7-7640X at 114W. I highly doubt the iMac is jumping to the 140W (and up ) of the Skylake-X line up ( 6-10+ cores ).

    link of current macrumors front page story ( https://www.macrumors.com/2017/05/30/intel-coffee-lake-30-pct-performance-boost/)
    https://newsroom.intel.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2017/05/Intel-Core-X-series-Fact-Sheet.pdf

    or same source article link to Intel slidedeck ( slides 19 and 20 in particular ).
    https://newsroom.intel.com/wp-conte...ries-Processor-Family_Product-Information.pdf

    Note how the i9-7920X and up are largely blank on slide 19. They are restuffing Gold and will finish those later when doesn't get in the way of regular Gold production.

    Even the 114W is a stretch thermally from the 70-92W range the iMac has been in. Not clear where another 40W would come from in a iMac without very substantive design changes. Even if could that probably would be better spent on boosting the GPU envelope not the CPU one. Never mind, putting an unlock processor in an iMac .... that is just asking for trouble with a very tight thermal envelope. I doubt Apple would do that.

    The rumors tracking into a Xeon E3 class processor ( back in the 90W range) would make more sense. If bumped the iMac up to 6 core count (Coffee Lake) without the unlocked, supermax base clock speed that would work.
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    Release to the likes of Amazon, MS Azure Could, Google Could , and supercomputer vendors yes. Mere mortals without nine digit budgets? No.
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    Technically the same no it is been for the last 5 years. There is a difference between the HEDT offerings and what has been the Xeon E5 x6xx class for the last 5 years. There really isn't a good reason for Apple to change now. It won't buy much in terms of cost savings or uniformity of design across 4-10+ core solutions.
     
  5. Joe The Dragon macrumors 6502a

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    imac pro intel kaby lake desktop or desktop socket xeon wild card amd cpu.

    mac pro Xeon 1 socket / Skylake X class board if keeping the same 1 cpu as CMP maybe dual cpu xeon if full size. or wild card amd 44-64?? pci-e range mid level socket or higher end socket with 128 pci-e over 1 or 2 cpu's.
     
  6. ZombiePhysicist macrumors 6502a

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    Personally I'd like to see the, use amd. It has more pci lanes and intel deserves to be punished for their totally glacial release schedule.
     

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