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will mpbs get "pro" graphics cards in next update?

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Wallace86

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no reason not to stick the 8800 in there.....aleinware already has in their 15.4..or at least a 512 8700. i'm hoping they go a 512 for the highend and a 256 for the low end....cause the 8600 barely passes for a pro graphics card.

do u think they'll upgrade them? ..the reason i ask is i do not think they have historically always upgraded the graphics card every update.
 
Wallace86 said:
no reason not to stick the 8800 in there.....aleinware already has in their 15.4..or at least a 512 8700. i'm hoping they go a 512 for the highend and a 256 for the low end....cause the 8600 barely passes for a pro graphics card.

do u think they'll upgrade them? ..the reason i ask is i do not think they have historically always upgraded the graphics card every update.
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With a case redesign, perhaps. But the 1' casing on current MBP is not meant for anything close to 8800 series. Its technically impossible.
 
The trade-off is heat and performance vs. style and good looks. I wont hold my breath for who's going to win that battle.
 
hmm....that is disheartening; however, i suppose it is better to know the truth
 
The m15x is what, 1.3"? Apple may find a way to squeeze an 8800 into the MBP, but I doubt it.

I think what we'll really see is a 256/512 set of 8700s.
 
The 8600 is a great card that provides great power. Why would Apple cram the same card they offer as a BTO on the Mac Pro tower into their notebook? Expect the macbook pro to keep its 8600 GT with a memory boost at most.
As for the 8700 GT, don't expect it. It is an over-clocked 8600 GT and is not worth Apple's attention. The next change in graphics cards we could see is probably in the 9000 series from NVidia.
 
Wallace86 said:
no reason not to stick the 8800 in there.....aleinware already has in their 15.4..or at least a 512 8700. i'm hoping they go a 512 for the highend and a 256 for the low end....cause the 8600 barely passes for a pro graphics card.

do u think they'll upgrade them? ..the reason i ask is i do not think they have historically always upgraded the graphics card every update.
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Oh I do hope so! That's what I'm holding on for, better graphics cards and, hopefully, optimized drivers.
As Apple are supposed to be traditionally about the graphics it's depressing their laptops are often behind. Not all graphics pros can afford the big tower systems (no matter how much they might want one) and need the laptops to be top spec.
 
4 bags of scooby snacks says apple will indeed opt for the 8800 option....look at all they managed to fit into the macbook air.
 
I'm still puting my money on the Radeon HD 3600. It fits the power/heat requirements of the MBP and is more powerful than the 8600.
 
JWest said:
Hopefully. I'm hoping to see 256MB standard in all models with the option to go to 512. That's all wishfull thinking on my part though, I have no evidence or anything.
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cool. thanks for the info
 
maybe apple is planning on skipping the penyron update for an earlier than expected realease of menyron...and are allocating all of their recources to a complete internal redesign (including updated graphics card). aleinware just came out with new ones and they are not penyron from my understanding.
 
I was trying to post a video card comparison, but it's not formating it properly...
 
If you need GeForce 8800m GT in MBP then you would have more thicker laptop than 1" but very impossible to put 8800m GT in 1" due heat issue and limited fan/heatsink to operating it.

If you really need laptop with faster GPU then get PC laptop with Windows, that solve your problem.

You won't able to max the setting on Crysis with 8800m GT due mobile, that's more limited than 8800 GT from Mac Pro.

Also, you never know if next MBP can contain ATI, it can be happens.
 
what are you going to do with a "pro" video card? play EA's Harry potter?

BTW a pro video card is an 8800GTX 512MB or better (SLI?)
an OK midrange is 8600GT 512MB
a low-mid range is 8600GS 256MB
a garbage card is an 8400 128MB (ment for ultra portables that dont play games)

non exsistant card is intel extreme graphics
 
lucky3killer said:
You won't able to max the setting on Crysis with 8800m GT due mobile, that's more limited than 8800 GT from Mac Pro.
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currently nothing can max crysis at 60FPS solid, not even tripple SLI with an overclocked quad core. currently no macs support SLI or any type of dual video card
 
Josheua said:
The 8600 is a great card that provides great power. Why would Apple cram the same card they offer as a BTO on the Mac Pro tower into their notebook? Expect the macbook pro to keep its 8600 GT with a memory boost at most.
As for the 8700 GT, don't expect it. It is an over-clocked 8600 GT and is not worth Apple's attention. The next change in graphics cards we could see is probably in the 9000 series from NVidia.
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Exactly, it's just an overclocked 8600. However, it's overclocked compared to a stock 8600. The MBP's are already underclocked as it is, so an 8700 should give a substantial boost in performance.

That, and it allows Apple to market it as an entirely new, upgraded graphics card along with a new processor, instead of just a new processor.
 
pr5owner said:
what are you going to do with a "pro" video card? play EA's Harry potter?

BTW a pro video card is an 8800GTX 512MB or better (SLI?)
an OK midrange is 8600GT 512MB
a low-mid range is 8600GS 256MB
a garbage card is an 8400 128MB (ment for ultra portables that dont play games)

non exsistant card is intel extreme graphics
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Some of us work for a living.

I do 3D design and run an assortment of programs that need high end graphics. It's depressing when your expensive laptop does less well than a Playstation.

I basically want a portable desktop which is a lot to ask, but I have limited resources and could do better at the moment by buying PC. As a lifelong Mac fan who bought the first Bondi iMac that is sad.
I understand from others who run 3DS et al on Intel MacbookPros that the graphics card drivers are better under Vista than they are under OSX and that's really bad.

The green creds of the MacBookAir, the nifty trackpad and better screen would be nice too.

I'm waiting and waiting in hope this all gets fixed but I can't wait much longer, I need a machine to run 3DS Max delivered by the end of February.
Can't afford a Mac Pro tower and screen system and don't want to have to move to a PC machine.
Stressed now.
 
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