Will never install another beta

Discussion in 'iOS 9' started by atlchamp, Feb 6, 2016.

  1. atlchamp macrumors 6502a

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    you get it. You use it. You usually always find bugs. Some minor some major. You end up going back to a non beta. Then you have to start from scratch again because you can't use a backup that is from a newer iOS. Beta's are headaches more than anything if you aren't a developer. I've learned my lesson and hope people who consider installing them for non development purposes follow suit. Rant over haha
     
  2. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    Everyone can have a different experience. People also have backups from before installing a beta and in many instances can downgrade without resorting and basically starting over if that's what they want. But sure plenty stay away from betas just to avoid any potential hassles.
     
  3. Julien macrumors G3

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    So a beta can act a lot like it is still in beta release?:eek::D
     
  4. Gav2k macrumors G3

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    Backup before you push the button. Really isn't that hard.

    The only time it was a little painful was when they were migrating apples apps to iCloud and you couldn't go back. Well you could but you'd lose access to the documents.
     
  5. atlchamp thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I backed up but you have so many new texts and apps and settings that it's weird just restoring back to a point where you are looking at texts that are 3-4 months old
     
  6. stooovie macrumors 6502a

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    What OP said. I'm beginning to attempt to extend this to a x.0 releases as well, especially on Mac. I still have yearly major updates, just offset by three-five months so I can get the X.2 or so.
     
  7. maxsix Suspended

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    As easy as it is to maintain a solid reliable multiple copy backup routine, I'm still amazed how millions and millions of people choose not to. Or sure, there's a bit of setup involved. But it could also be said that any tech device requires setup time. At the end of the day, nothing is more valuable for saving time, money and your files like a good current backup.
     
  8. Abazigal macrumors 604

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    I think some people still have this misconception that a beta is somehow early access to a software update that is more or less ready for primetime, then freak out when it results in poor performance on their Apple devices, and when it proves more troublesome to restore the device than they anticipated.

    Problem is - many of the new features can't be accessed without developer support (which won't happen until iOS is officially released), not to mention it might break existing apps, so you are accepting a lot of instability for a few minor software features at best. Heck, at this point, you may as well just jailbreak your device if it is more features you want.
     
  9. lovewd macrumors 6502

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    This is clearly someone with no experience when it comes to beta. Actually apple tells you to make an iTunes backup, and archive it for later downgrading
     
  10. throAU macrumors 601

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    Yup. those warnings about betas aren't for nothing.

    Sure you might be able to live with it but if you care about stability and actually use your gear to get stuff done then Beta is more risky than production software and as you say you can't restore a backup from a newer version into an older version...
     
  11. Paco II macrumors 65816

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    There is a reason Apple used to keep betas locked down.
     
  12. atlchamp thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    actually I had an iTunes back up but if you read my post, all the activity you do while on the back up can't be put back on a lower iOS version. you just have to use that older backup and see texts that could be weeks or months old and app activity that hasn't registered. I wish apple would let you use any backup on ANY iOS you choose
     
  13. asv56kx3088 macrumors 6502

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    That's why we should never install beta software on a primary device.
     
  14. atlchamp thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    you know I really understand that as an adult, but again you're missing the point. o_O
     
  15. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    The backup is made right before upgrading to beta so that it's compatible with whatever version you would downgrade to if you wanted to downgrade. What beta are you using that your last non-backup is months old?
     
  16. atlchamp thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    If I were to do a back up on iOS 9 .2 .1 today and then use 9.3 beta for four months and then downgrade back to 9.2.1 then any text messages and activity for those four months are totally gone. What are you guys not understanding about that
     
  17. Michael Goff macrumors G3

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    Of course you can't use a beta backup on a previous version.

    Did you post this not expecting to catch crap?
     
  18. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    Why would you be on beta for four months? By that point 9.3 would already be out as a released version?
     
  19. atlchamp thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    It was an example with exaggeration since you can't comprehend that let's just say it's two months
     
  20. Michael Goff macrumors G3

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    If you're at two months, which is odd because I don't think a single beta of iOS 9 (aside from the initial iOS 9 beta coming from 8) has last two months, wait it out.
     
  21. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    It's not that I couldn't comprehend, it's just that the situation you were describing wasn't much of a realistic one. There is a difference between months or a month or two for most people.

    That said, all of that is known, or should be known to someone that decides to go with a beta, so that person makes a decision accounting for all of that.
     
  22. atlchamp thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Can the mods please delete this thread
     
  23. XTheLancerX macrumors 68000

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    I'm fine with the issues, for some reason while I'm running the beta I find satisfaction in finding the issues, reporting them, and watching things improve with every release. Almost like I'm contributing. I like getting the features early, but also giving feedback to help them mature for when they go to the public. I haven't had any significant issues, just minor annoyances. However when a major issue does crop up, I don't have a problem with restoring as new. I do that once every few months anyway.

    The only thing that's annoying is being on the beta train almost constantly. Every so often I need a break, and I get tired of that feeling of my nightly iCloud backups sort of getting stuffed with buggy beta crap. That's just when I reset as new and choose not to install the profile for awhile. Not a big deal at all imo.

    Running beta software isn't for everyone.
     
  24. Snide macrumors 6502a

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    Amen!
     
  25. braddick macrumors 68040

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    I have an iPhone 5 on beta 2, iOS8.2 that will simply never expire. iPhone runs smoothly without difficulty- yet with minimum jailbreak tweaks.
     

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