Will rMBP run Snow Leopard (Mac OS X 10.6.x)?

[stevelam]

Yep.

My Early 2011 MBP is enough for a benchmark and hundreds of reviews from the Mac App store and online posts.

Or do you need one from Ars Technica, Tom's Hardware and the like? Those guys just do tech reviews which don't show real world performance from working professionals who use these devices everyday...doing more than sending emails and light use of Lightroom, etc.

This is coming from a pro user. But don't take my word for it, try it yourself.

ML is just like SL when it comes to speed. It looks much more polished to boot and there's a few great features like AirPlay, Messages and Notifications....which mind you, you don't have to use if you don't like them

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I kind of feel bad for Windows users that they have to use "Metro UI" on a desktop/laptop. I've never seen a good Windows laptop that has the great trackpad that the MBP has. I never use Launchpad, don't see a point in it. It does look nice, but I just use Alfred (light years ahead of Spotlight).

Apple knows that a desktop is not a replacement for a tablet, so they are keeping OS X separate but using things they've learned from iOS devices to benefit the desktop users.

Lion was a good entry, but somewhat of a failure in my opinion. ML is hitting all the right notes.

what a BS post.

did geekbench benchmarking on ML compared to lion results on my RMBP. on average, no real difference. typical scores were: lion got 10911. ML got 10996. whoop dee.

 

[SDAVE]

what a BS post.

did geekbench benchmarking on ML compared to lion results on my RMBP. on average, no real difference. typical scores were: lion got 10911. ML got 10996. whoop dee.

Sure, geekbench is a real world test.

Stop looking at the numbers and look at what's under the hood.

Not on any of my 5 macs. Sorry.

Did you even try ML?
What do you do all day?
Virtual machine & email?

Try running the ish out of the Adobe Creative Suite & Cinema 4D then we can talk.

 

[gentlefury]

Sure, geekbench is a real world test.

Stop looking at the numbers and look at what's under the hood.




Did you even try ML?
What do you do all day?
Virtual machine & email?

Try running the ish out of the Adobe Creative Suite & Cinema 4D then we can talk.

Why does everyone assume that since it actually works I do nothing with my computers. Firstly, all of my computers were upgraded the day Lion and Mountain Lion were released...I also updated day one on Snow Leopard, Leopard and Tiger. So far, the only day one upgrade issue I had was that the latest release of Nuke didn't work....it took a few days for them to update.

I am a visual effects artists for feature films, commercials, and television shows. My computers get pushed MUCH harder than the average users! My daily workflow consists of juggling thousands of high resolution images at once in full uncompressed formats. I frequently max out Mac Pro's with 16GB ram and 12-cores. I am not doing email and web surfing all day.

 

[SDAVE]

Why does everyone assume that since it actually works I do nothing with my computers. Firstly, all of my computers were upgraded the day Lion and Mountain Lion were released...I also updated day one on Snow Leopard, Leopard and Tiger. So far, the only day one upgrade issue I had was that the latest release of Nuke didn't work....it took a few days for them to update.

I am a visual effects artists for feature films, commercials, and television shows. My computers get pushed MUCH harder than the average users! My daily workflow consists of juggling thousands of high resolution images at once in full uncompressed formats. I frequently max out Mac Pro's with 16GB ram and 12-cores. I am not doing email and web surfing all day.

So you're telling me you don't see speed improvements in ML compared to Lion?

I don't believe that.

Lion, especially 10.7.0 was pretty buggy.

 

[gentlefury]

So you're telling me you don't see speed improvements in ML compared to Lion?

I don't believe that.

Lion, especially 10.7.0 was pretty buggy.

I didnt say that. I think Mountain Lion is much faster than Lion....but I also thought lion was a fantastic update! I also really liked Snow Leopard when it came out...and leopard...Tiger was a miracle! See where I'm going with this?

 

[Lvivske]

I can't imagine ever wanting to use Snow Leopard with any regularity, much less gimping my retina with one

 

[gentlefury]

I can't imagine ever wanting to use Snow Leopard with any regularity, much less gimping my retina with one

The studio I'm currently at is still using SL....I hate it.

 

[SDAVE]

I didnt say that. I think Mountain Lion is much faster than Lion....but I also thought lion was a fantastic update! I also really liked Snow Leopard when it came out...and leopard...Tiger was a miracle! See where I'm going with this?

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I never said Lion was not a good update...it just seemed half-assed, compared to Leopard, Snow Leopard and prior versions. Apple just wants to do yearly updates now so it's understandable.

Sure, once you use Lion and ML, you don't want to go back to SL or prior versions. That is part of the evolution of operating systems.

If I was a windows 7 user, I wouldn't want to go back to Windows 2000 either.

I am really liking ML right now, it just feels "good". Hard to describe, but I didn't have this feeling with Lion.

Regardless, both OS's did their work and paid my bills, so it doesn't matter...but using it day in and day out I think it's quite important to have a good platform that has less issues than it's predecessors.

 

[gentlefury]

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I never said Lion was not a good update...it just seemed half-assed, compared to Leopard, Snow Leopard and prior versions. Apple just wants to do yearly updates now so it's understandable.

Sure, once you use Lion and ML, you don't want to go back to SL or prior versions. That is part of the evolution of operating systems.

If I was a windows 7 user, I wouldn't want to go back to Windows 2000 either.

I am really liking ML right now, it just feels "good". Hard to describe, but I didn't have this feeling with Lion.

Regardless, both OS's did their work and paid my bills, so it doesn't matter...but using it day in and day out I think it's quite important to have a good platform that has less issues than it's predecessors.

I love ML and wouldn't want to switch back! I've been testing my rMBP for the past couple days now, putting it thru the ringer with games...so I haven't seen Mac OS in a couple days and it makes me remember why I hate windows! I call it my XBox Partition.

 

[SDAVE]

I love ML and wouldn't want to switch back! I've been testing my rMBP for the past couple days now, putting it thru the ringer with games...so I haven't seen Mac OS in a couple days and it makes me remember why I hate windows! I call it my XBox Partition.

If we didn't have Apple we'd be stuck with Windows

I was a faithful Windows user for 15 years before switching to Apple. Never looked back.

 

[ixodes]

A friend has Snow Leopard running in VMware and it's a very good solution. I was impressed at how fast it is.

 

[d00d]

Or do you need one from Ars Technica, Tom's Hardware and the like? Those guys just do tech reviews which don't show real world performance from working professionals who use these devices everyday...doing more than sending emails and light use of Lightroom, etc.

This is coming from a pro user. But don't take my word for it, try it yourself.

So, that's a "No, it feels snappier." Got it. That's what I thought.

Let me guess. You also have nothing to back up the idea that Lion was significantly slower.

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The best part about benchmarks is they don't really tell you what you need to know about <insert product name here>.

Other than giving you an objective measure of speed, but who needs that when you're comparing the speed of two products?

 

[SDAVE]

 

[Wingzero]

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Tom's hardware isn't the most credible source around.


Just because you had a bad expierence with Lion doesn't mean everyone else did.



I found it to be fine, Mountain Lion feels the same to me on my 13" MBP 2011, I use mine for music production and live performances in Ableton Live and frequently use Logic Pro.


I'm not the heaviest of users but I sure do push my system.

 

[d00d]

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Yeah, this post contained just about as much relevant content as the other ones. Thanks for confirming that you had nothing objective to back up your subjective judgment.

 

[Wafflausages]

Can you give me a link ? I am stuck with Mountain Lion...
I wan't to create a small partition on my Late 2011 MBP to play some old games that don't run on Lion
My other Mac, wich came with Leopard, the Late 2008 model is used by my father nowadays so I can't take his machine to play games

hi sorry i didnt see your reply but here is the thread https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1275346/
not sure if it will work since SL was actually installed on the earlier 2011 models

 

[SDAVE]

Yeah, this post contained just about as much relevant content as the other ones. Thanks for confirming that you had nothing objective to back up your subjective judgment.

Ok, d00d.

 

[SDAVE]

Yeah, this post contained just about as much relevant content as the other ones. Thanks for confirming that you had nothing objective to back up your subjective judgment.

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/08/graphics-improvements-give-mountain-lion-that-speedy-feeling/

Here you go.