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I need a laptop on which I can paint in photoshop on a large canvas (16k by 16k pixels) with 30-50 layers and stream this to twitch via OBS, also at the same time there should be a second instance of OBS that capture the video player and streams it to another streaming platform.
 
I need a laptop on which I can paint in photoshop on a large canvas (16k by 16k pixels) with 30-50 layers and stream this to twitch via OBS, also at the same time there should be a second instance of OBS that capture the video player and streams it to another streaming platform.
Are you able to buy it, try it, and then—if it doesn't perform acceptably—return it? I don't think there's a better way to answer the question when there's so much money at stake!
 
at 2k I think even majority of "gaming laptops" would struggle. Like others said is it possible you can just get the Mac and test it within the return window to make sure it does all that you need it to?
 
It should be fine. The throughput of the M1 architecture is impressive. My main recommendation would be to make sure to get 32GB of RAM so that all the various processes on the machine aren't fighting for memory.

Just buy it, try it out. If it doesn't work, you can return it. Don't feel guilty about it; you're not "abusing the system" or anything like that. Apple still makes money when they sell it refurbished.
 
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Are you able to buy it, try it, and then—if it doesn't perform acceptably—return it? I don't think there's a better way to answer the question when there's so much money at stake!
It should be fine. The throughput of the M1 architecture is impressive. My main recommendation would be to make sure to get 32GB of RAM so that all the various processes on the machine aren't fighting for memory.

Just buy it, try it out. If it doesn't work, you can return it. Don't feel guilty about it; you're not "abusing the system" or anything like that. Apple still makes money when they sell it refurbished.
Unfortunately, in the country where I live, there is no way to return a laptop. I guess I'm just YOLO it and if it's not powerful enough I'll try to sell it.
 
I need a laptop on which I can paint in photoshop on a large canvas (16k by 16k pixels) with 30-50 layers and stream this to twitch via OBS, also at the same time there should be a second instance of OBS that capture the video player and streams it to another streaming platform.
How about a Studio with ProArt display and a Wacom?
Streaming two services with two separate instances of OBS AND running Adobe?
Do you hate your computer? ;)

What "gaming" laptop at $2000 do you believe will be better than the M1?
I daily drive a MBPr for work and have an Asus Zenbook Pro Duo for streaming:
 
How about a Studio with ProArt display and a Wacom?

yeah, maybe I'll choose mac studio because i don't really need portability.

Streaming two services with two separate instances of OBS AND running Adobe?
Do you hate your computer? ;)
I understand that it might be worth buying a dedicated streaming computer, but fiddling around with two computers is a pain in the ass and out of my budget.
What "gaming" laptop at $2000 do you believe will be better than the M1?
I think Asus m16 with 3070 ti and 12900h will be better. I'm not very tech savvy, but my understanding is that Photoshop mostly uses CPU, and OBS with nvenc encoder will mostly use GPU, so neither CPU nor GPU will be fully loaded.
 
NVENC can handle three encoded video streams but you also have to consider other factors like having sufficient network bandwidth while Macs tend to have slower WIFI than PCs.

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If you are doing serious large scale data transfers, then I would rely on a hardwired network connection for your primary work space. You can go up to 300' on CAT 5 or 6 without loosing any performance. WIFI quality of the signal varies as the square of the distance and then there architectural limitations such as walls and floor that further degrade performance. I have built hundred of small networks for small businesses and always used ethernet for reliability and security. Choose the computer that you know and will do the tasks require, not one based on WIFI performance. My router is literally 2' from my Mac, but I use ethernet for my connection.
 
I'm truly asking, as I thought cat5/6 should have been long gone by now.

Why? Cat8 supports 25/40 Gbps but in a home environment pretty it is much useless since there are no consumer devices that support that speed to my knowledge. Not worth the extra expense.

Cat 6 or 7 both support 10 Gbps which is just starting to appear on consumer devices. 1 Gbps ports are still the standard, but the transition to 2.5 and 10 Gbps ports has started.

If you have a 1 Gbps network, which is most people, cat 5e is fine.

Different considerations apply if you have long distance runs or are wiring a house.
 
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I would definitely go with the Mac Studio over any laptop. I know nothing about streaming video, but I do know that what you're wanting to do is going to be much easier and have better results on a desktop than a laptop.
 
Do we still use Cat 5 or 6? I've been riding Cat8 at my house for at least 5 years.
I'm truly asking, as I thought cat5/6 should have been long gone by now.
Sorry, I haven't kept up with ethernet specs, you are correct to use latest standard. Point was too many people put there trust in wireless not realizing it is just like light and sound, strength varies with the square of the distance.
 
Sorry, I haven't kept up with ethernet specs, you are correct to use latest standard. Point was too many people put there trust in wireless not realizing it is just like light and sound, strength varies with the square of the distance.

No need to apologize since you're actually more correct. CAT5E works with 2.5Gbase-T which is common and relatively cheap. For 10Gbase-T, CAT6A is recommended while anything above CAT6A is a waste of money since >10Gbase-T switches don't exist probably due to 10Gbase-T already being power hungry, running hot and burning up. For 10Gb with future proofing to 40Gb and 100Gb it makes more sense to go OM4 or OM3 fiber for backbone and DAC for host connections. 10Gb SFP+ fiber switches are lower cost, run cooler and fanless (silent) at 8-port count than 10GBase-T.
 
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