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Liquinn

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Will the iPhone 4S and the iPhone 5 get iOs 10? When will we know for sure? Thank you.
 

keysofanxiety

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Less likely 4S as it's the only 3.5" screen iPhone supported in iOS 9. 5 would definitely be supported IMO as it's got the same hardware as the 5C which they certainly wouldn't phase out at this time. All speculation though.

We'll know for sure when they announce iOS 10 at WWDC, likely some time around June 2016.
 
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Liquinn

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Less likely 4S as it's the only 3.5" screen iPhone supported in iOS 9. 5 would definitely be supported IMO as it's got the same hardware as the 5C which they certainly wouldn't phase out at this time. All speculation though.

We'll know for sure when they announce iOS 10 at WWDC, likely some time around June 2016.
Apple don't sell the 4S anymore - but as you said, we'll find out soon.
 

keysofanxiety

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Apple don't sell the 4S anymore - but as you said, we'll find out soon.

I know they don't sell the 4S anymore, I said it was the last supported 3.5" iPhone in iOS 9. But yes we will find out soon.

EDIT: sorry think you meant the 5C -- yeah they don't sell that either but it was introduced so recently I doubt they'd be phasing that from updates
 

Liquinn

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Time will tell and true. =) Everything once at one point is the newest. :(
 

TechGod

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I don't think that iOS 10 will support the iPhone 5 or 5C simply because they're not 64 bit. I suspect that they'll rewrite iOS 10 with Swift and completely drop 32 bit support.
 
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CNeufeld

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I don't think that iOS 10 will support the iPhone 5 or 5C simply because they're not 64 bit. I suspect that they'll rewrite iOS 10 with Swift and completely drop 32 bit support.

Considering the phone companies are still selling 5c's, I think there would be a lot of pressure to keep supporting the older phones for another cycle or two.

Whether it's a good idea to upgrade a 5 or 5c to iOS 10 is another story entirely...

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cmichaelb

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No. iOS 10 will support 64bit processors only IMO. That's 5S and up.

If this survey is even close to accurately reflecting iPhone distribution, it would make sense to drop 32bit support.

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nordique

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Tough to say regarding 4s. I think given apple's history it's a safe bet they will support the 5/5c
 

0928001

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No. iOS 10 will support 64bit processors only IMO. That's 5S and up.

If this survey is even close to accurately reflecting iPhone distribution, it would make sense to drop 32bit support.

cirpiphoneinstallbase-800x424.jpg

Disagree. Only Apple knows the reasons for it to "make sense" or not to drop 32 bit support, which it doesn't considering the amount of people that still have the 5/5c, and how fast the A6 is. It's not the 32 bit devices they'll be dropping, it's the A5 devices.
 

bniu

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It would be fitting for iOS X to be exclusively 64-bit...

Most iPhones since 3GS only receive 3 major updates, 4S being the exception...
 
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cmichaelb

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Disagree. Only Apple knows the reasons for it to "make sense" or not to drop 32 bit support, which it doesn't considering the amount of people that still have the 5/5c, and how fast the A6 is. It's not the 32 bit devices they'll be dropping, it's the A5 devices.

I see your point but I still believe anything with a A6 or lower will be dropped. If you look at that chart, assuming it's somewhat representative, the vast majority of iPhone users are on A7 or higher CPUs. A7 up are all 64bit. This is the same company that released the first Intel Macs in January 2006 and OSX stopped including PowerPC support in August 2009 with Snow Leopard. About 3 1/2 years.

The last 32 bit CPU was in the iPhone 5, A6, and introduced September 2012. 64 bit A7 in September 2013. By September 2016, I could totally see 32 bit being dropped after 3 years of dual support.

Hey, it's just my opinion, but I always look at past history to look for patterns. Apple is also notorious for trying to keep teams small and not waste resources. I don't know if you remember the stories about the Apple remote app not getting updated because the one developer who wrote the app was working on other projects. Why keep a team working on 32bit OS X when you don't make any new devices with 32bit CPUs and haven't for quite some time.

It just seems to be a lot of circumstantial evidence.

Like I said though, just my opinion.
 

NayborAxi

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They have to completely kill the 4S to a point where you won't be able to use it properly like the iphone 4 with ios 7.1.3. I bet they will update it and make it slow as molasses.
 

pika2000

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I think the 4S won't get iOS10. Apple has stopped selling all iDevices with the A5 chip. Only the previous gen Apple TV is left.
I think the 5 will still get iOS10, but I have a feeling it will be a mess, meaning it won't be optimized for the A6 as all current Apple lineup are 64bit already. Apple will focus in optimizing for 64bit, and I feel the 5 will be getting the step child treatment.
 

Vivian125

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I see your point but I still believe anything with a A6 or lower will be dropped. If you look at that chart, assuming it's somewhat representative, the vast majority of iPhone users are on A7 or higher CPUs. A7 up are all 64bit. This is the same company that released the first Intel Macs in January 2006 and OSX stopped including PowerPC support in August 2009 with Snow Leopard. About 3 1/2 years.

The last 32 bit CPU was in the iPhone 5, A6, and introduced September 2012. 64 bit A7 in September 2013. By September 2016, I could totally see 32 bit being dropped after 3 years of dual support.

Hey, it's just my opinion, but I always look at past history to look for patterns. Apple is also notorious for trying to keep teams small and not waste resources. I don't know if you remember the stories about the Apple remote app not getting updated because the one developer who wrote the app was working on other projects. Why keep a team working on 32bit OS X when you don't make any new devices with 32bit CPUs and haven't for quite some time.

It just seems to be a lot of circumstantial evidence.

Like I said though, just my opinion.

iPhone 5S on iOS 11 is like 1.33% Times better than 4s on iOS 9
iPhone 5S on iOS 11 is like 5 Times Slower than 5 on iOS 10

I can't imagine how iOS 12 would handle the iPhone 5S as it still has the 1.3Ghz similar to iPhone 5 or whatsoever. i really hope that iOS 12 would improve it especially the battery, and stable performance like iOS 10.. iOS 11 completely kills A7 Devices.
 
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