Will the 6S+ still have a non-native display?

[sunking101]

As the 6S and 6S+ both share the same CPU and GPU it means that once again the 4.7" model will outperform its bigger brother. I need to know if the 6S+ will have a non-native screen resolution and have to employ a scaler like the 6+ does, as this could lead to more of the same issues that plagued the first phablet.

 

[AbSoluTc]

You already know the answer to this question. The screen will be the same as the 6 Plus. Beyond that, you need to employ a crystal ball. Doesn't really matter really as it's too heavy to hold and carry. Odds of the planes carrying the 6S Plus' going down are pretty high.

 

[sarcosis]

As the 6S and 6S+ both share the same CPU and GPU it means that once again the 4.7" model will outperform its bigger brother. I need to know if the 6S+ will have a non-native screen resolution and have to employ a scaler like the 6+ does, as this could lead to more of the same issues that plagued the first phablet.

We won't know for certain until the reviews and tear downs come out, but my money on it is yes. They would have to change the way the OS works and since iOS 9 came out and heard nothing about this, my guess its the same. Hardware should make no difference in the way the resolution is rendered.

 

[sunking101]

You already know the answer to this question. The screen will be the same as the 6 Plus. Beyond that, you need to employ a crystal ball. Doesn't really matter really as it's too heavy to hold and carry. Odds of the planes carrying the 6S Plus' going down are pretty high.

I only know that it has the same dimensions and final 1080p resolution, I have heard nothing about the native resolution of the 6S+ displays.

 

[HarryWild]

As the 6S and 6S+ both share the same CPU and GPU it means that once again the 4.7" model will outperform its bigger brother. I need to know if the 6S+ will have a non-native screen resolution and have to employ a scaler like the 6+ does, as this could lead to more of the same issues that plagued the first phablet.

From what I have read; the new A9 is up to 90% faster in GPU performance and up to 70% for computing. Doubt now that the two versions will be able to tell the difference in display speed and rendering!

 

[Daniel L]

I only know that it has the same dimensions and final 1080p resolution, I have heard nothing about the native resolution of the 6S+ displays.

You have the answer to your question right there. If it's 1080p that's the native resolution of the display. It's not feasible to render at native 1080p but it is feasible to use display with a resolution of 2208x1242 (which they didn't do again).

 

[sunking101]

You have the answer to your question right there. If it's 1080p that's the native resolution of the display. It's not feasible to render at native 1080p but it is feasible to use display with a resolution of 2208s1242 (which they didn't do again).

I'm not quite understanding you. The 6+ is 1080p but it scales down to that resolution and I'm wondering if the 6S+ will also use a scaler rather than having a native screen resolution of 1080p.

For instance, the Galaxy Note 3 has a native resolution of 1920 x 1080 and does not scale up or down. So it is possible to get a native 1080p resolution.

 

[Daniel L]

I'm not quite understanding you. The 6+ is 1080p but it scales down to that resolution and I'm wondering if the 6S+ will also use a scaler rather than having a native screen resolution of 1080p.

For instance, the Galaxy Note 3 has a native resolution of 1920 x 1080 and does not scale up or down. So it is possible to get a native 1080p resolution.

http://www.paintcodeapp.com/news/iphone-6-screens-demystified
Things would not display properly if the iPhone 6S plus rendered at native 1080p. To prevent downscaling Apple would have to use a 2208x1242 display.

 

[sunking101]

http://www.paintcodeapp.com/news/iphone-6-screens-demystified
Things would not display properly if the iPhone 6S plus rendered at native 1080p. To prevent downscaling Apple would have to use a 2208x1242 display.

It's more that Apple couldn't source a sufficient quantity of displays so had to go with a higher resolution and then employ a downscaler. I'm wondering if/hoping they managed to do away with the scaler this time because it affects performance.

 

[Daniel L]

It's more that Apple couldn't source a sufficient quantity of displays so had to go with a higher resolution and then employ a downscaler. I'm wondering if/hoping they managed to do away with the scaler this time because it affects performance.

I don't think you're understanding it correctly. The phone renders (processes what's going to be displayed on the screen at 2208x1242 resolution then the downscaler does work by dividing everything by 1.15 in order to fit the 1920x1080 display the phone has.

How can Apple do away with the downscaling if right on the technical specification page it says they're using a 1920x1080 display on the 6S plus? The only way they do away with the downscaling is by sourcing a 2208x1242 display.

If you mean instead of having the phone render at 2208x1242 and having it render at 1920x1080 so it doesn't have to downscale, that's not possible as it's not a whole number and would not scale properly with their point based rendering system.

 

[sunking101]

I don't think you're understanding it correctly. The phone renders (processes what's going to be displayed on the screen at 2208x1242 resolution then the downscaler does work by dividing everything by 1.15 in order to fit the 1920x1080 display the phone has.

How can Apple do away with the downscaling if right on the technical specification page it says they're using a 1920x1080 display on the 6S plus? The only way they do away with the downscaling is by sourcing a 2208x1242 display.

Gotcha. So I guess my question should be 'why are they not using a native screen resolution?"

 

[Daniel L]

That's exactly what I'm trying to ascertain, has the 6S+ got a native 1080p resolution or does it employ downscaling like the 6+. Apple are quoting the final rendering resolution, now is that native or is it downscaled?

Apple is quoting the display resolution, not the rendering resolution. From that you can deduce that in order to fit a 1920x1080 display, the phone either has to upscale a 2x point render or downscale a 3x point render.

 

[Daniel L]

Gotcha. So I guess my question should be 'why are they not using a native screen resolution?"

Because like you said they couldn't source a sufficient quantity of 2208x1242 displays . I wish they did and am hoping they will for the 7.

 

[Daniel L]

http://www.paintcodeapp.com/news/ultimate-guide-to-iphone-resolutions

You can see how the 6/6+ both utilize upscaling and downscaling. 6 only upscales in display zoom mode otherwise it's native

 

[sunking101]

This is a good article on the 6+ and 6S+ display.

https://medium.com/we-are-appcepted/the-curious-case-of-iphone-6-1080p-display-b33dac5bbcb6

 

[terraphantm]

It's unlikely to be plagued with the same problems since the phone is much faster and has twice the RAM.

 

[sunking101]

Because like you said they couldn't source a sufficient quantity of 2208x1242 displays . I wish they did and am hoping they will for the 7.

They've had an extra 12 months to get some displays for the 6S+ though, so it must simply be a(nother) cost cutting measure.

 

[terraphantm]

They've had an extra 12 months to get some displays for the 6S+ though, so it must simply be a(nother) cost cutting measure.

Or it's a problem that doesn't really need fixing. And "1080p" works better for marketing since people know what 1080p is