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Discussion in 'iOS 7' started by Campbellot, Jul 21, 2013.
Thoughts on this one?
I'd go with yes, who knows, maybe they wanted to release beta 4 on friday?
Well no one technically said we are guaranteed a beta every 2 weeks. Only Apple knows the answer to your question. But I think it's unlikely the dev site will slow things down since an OTA can be done.
I'd say only if Beta 4 was scheduled to be released during the outage...which the majority of us know nothing about.
You will almost certainly NEVER know for sure.
How do you know beta 4 release date?
Based off of previous iOS betas, I thought the first three betas came out every two weeks, and betas 4+ came out every three weeks?
If that cadence holds for iOS 7, then beta 4 would come out in eight more days (Monday July 29th).
I can see this delaying distribution, but I'd be surprised if Apple's developers used this site and would be delayed from it being down.
Although this would be a great red herring for causing iOS to be delayed. lol
I think it'll depend on whether the same team working on the betas was working on the dev center and how close they were to "finishing" beta 4. Betas can still go out OTA so I don't see the big deal.
Yes and No. the developers portal is where Apple would upload/post IOS 7 beta, Xcode...etc. fixing the servers security and such could take time. If the portal goes live tomorrow, 50% chance of Beta 4.
The dev team is separate from the team that maintains the developer center website.
Also, the beta 4 is still ready or not regardless of the website, and can be issued OTA.
I really think if apple wanted to they could push the update OTA. If they decide not to that would show that the update was not ready or other security measures are being taken.
Apple might want to have all developers access to Beta 4, both OTA and from dev center, and since they can't do it, they might delay it. Unless, as said, dev center goes live in the following hours.
Why would you think so? They probably have a dedicated group of people working on the web server side, which has nothing to do with the developers of iOS.
Because the developers of iOS use the web side to distribute the OS?
May not be true for OTA ... Full DMG , yes
Apple's servers are not having problems, they're just reworking part of the back end, as they said. There are no problems in placing the iOS release on their servers, with a link to the files, or letting iOS 7 beta users update directly from their device. The outage will end when they want it to end, and it's in their interest to stick to their roadmap.
Generally, you don't distribute millions of updates when your update mechanism is (partially) having problems - unless the update fixes said update problems.
That's your opinion. Apple can distribute whatever they want however they like, and they have all the means to do it.
Also, the "update mechanism" has no problems. They had, from what I've gathered, a problem related to non sanitized data passing through, presumably, their login or search system. They can open up again in a second, if they wish (and they want to stick to their roadmap, in my opinion), but are taking the opportunity to perform new implementations, as they state.
The problem (or hacking) was fixable in a couple of minutes, that's how long it takes to fix an injection bug. However, they're working on probably something new, and they have full control on it. That is, they can get the system back online with a click.
I wish there was somewhere to discuss this... perhaps with a poll, perhaps with a thread on the same page...
Apple owes me a refund for my developer account since 26th June, and I called them up today and the agent told me about the intrusion and how things are held back and slowed down because of it. Every thing is off schedule. He says that the system is jammed with new activations and requested refunds and he says it would take a week to clear.
Make of that what you will, but I think beta 4 is delayed.
While true, some people prefer to restore as new rather than simply upgrading, in order to squash as many bugs as possible.
Also bear in mind that a new version of Xcode normally accompanies a new iOS beta. The mechanism for distributing Xcode is the dev portal. They won't want developers (you know, the people who the beta is really for!) to have a mismatch of tooling.
No wonder this thread seemed familiar.
Probably not today ... but I would bet sometime between today and next monday for sure.