Worse battery life and a huge camera bump? Sign me up!
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And the good news is that adding a new choice doesn't adversely affect anyone any more than a store stocking a new flavor of jelly.So if nobody is buying the phone because nobody is asking for it then it will end up like the mini and disappear from the lineup the following year… my guess is that it will be a rather hot seller…I think nobody is asking for a thinner phone either though.
Smaller? Absolutely. Thinner? Not at all.
But more battery life? Absolutely.
Well, most want a tiny phone that acts big when you want and has awesome features in every way and a battery that lasts forever. But in the real world they offer choices each with some compromise and people pick whichever fits them best. And there are some, not me, that DO actually want thin even with less battery -- odd, but they really do exist enough to warrant such a phone.Because people always get a new iPhone and say "I wish the battery lasted less."
Agree.And the good news is that adding a new choice doesn't adversely affect anyone any more than a store stocking a new flavor of jelly.
Well, hard to say nobody when I've heard on just this forum (let alone those I don't hear) quite a few asking for exactly this.Agree.
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I was being sarcastic …Well, hard to say nobody when I've heard on just this forum (let alone those I don't hear) quite a few asking for exactly this.
Yup, with my 13PM I’m somewhere around 59% at eo day.As someone who generally ends the day with 40-50% battery left, I am all for a much thinner phone. That said, the camera compromises might lead to me not getting this over a pro phone; will have to see when it's released.
Exactly. If, for example, you're planning on making a foldable phone, it might be good to get some manufacturing reps in on a really thin device.I think there is a market for the Air even with all its compromises. Maybe not a huge market but not insignificant either. But I think there's another reason Apple is doing this beside the new niche market. This is a chance for them to play with some new tech and manufacturing methods that will come in handy for future products. You can play with in-house prototypes for a while but eventually you want to try them out on the actual manufacturing floor and in real user's hands. The feedback will help them refine how future products are made.
No one is asking for this version of the iPhone. We want long battery life, and cameras that don't stick out the back of the phone.
I would have thought the same but it turns out we're both wrong. There actually are people that really want this. Go figure!
I think nobody is asking for a thinner phone either though.
Smaller? Absolutely. Thinner? Not at all.
But more battery life? Absolutely.
So why not design a phone that has a larger battery, but same everything else? Or a smaller phone that has a massive battery?
I used to charge my cellphone once a week, and was happy with that arrangement. I'm not sure why we as a collective have decided that once a day (or more as the battery ages) is acceptable.
It would not surprise me at all if the Air turns out to be surprisingly heavy. But still thin. My guess is thin is the marketing goal rather than light, even though obviously both thin and light would be better still.Have there been any rumored weight values? The 16 is 170g, and 13 mini is 141. I assume you wouldn't release an "air" product that was heavier than another model you're releasing at the same time, right?
Interesting comment. I consider the 16PM battery to be just fine, much better than many of my earlier iPhones. What was the earliest iPhone that you owned and are comparing to?I hope so. My iPhone 16 Pro Max has the worst battery life of any iPhone I’ve ever owned.
Clearly you consider your market research to be superior to Apple's market research. It is too bad we cannot wager here.Agree.
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You askIs there an engineering/technology reason why Apple couldn't redesign its phones so as to eliminate the "camera bump" and use the extra space for a bigger battery?
I can't imagine that there's a huge market for people who want a slim phone that needs an external battery in order to be truly usable. But what constitutes "slim" anyway? In real world use, a phone is as thin as its thickest point, not its thinnest point. So why not optimize for maximum battery life instead of making the phone unbalanced by thinning the non-camera area?
Yes, I thought my emojis were enough but next time I’ll add the /s.Clearly you consider your market research to be superior to Apple's market research. It is too bad we cannot wager here.
Edit: I now see you noted the comment as sarcasm.
Personally I do not need thin, or light, or less bump, or more battery life. All I need is maximum camera competence.
I have a hard time understanding who this is for. People who are dying for an ultra thin phone? How many people could they possibly be.Worse battery life and a huge camera bump? Sign me up!
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