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Will the iPhone 7s be the weakest "S" upgrade ever?

Depends what rumours you believe

If the 7s and 7s plus has a glass back and wireless charging then it's still a decent upgrade.

That said most I imagine who are planning on upgrading will go with the iPhone 8
 
Those who are still waiting for iphone 8.... the 8S WILL BE THE ONE TO WORTH THE WAITING!!

I am waiting for the 8S.. If Apple releases an Iphone SE with 8S internals , I am IN , if not, I will problably get the standard 4.7 8S .

OR maybe I can wait for the 9S , which will be released in 2021. It will be a huge upgrade over the SE.. I hope that Apple continue to release 4 inch Iphone with S iphones internals
I am on S cycle !!
 
Math889 said:
Those who are still waiting for iphone 8.... the 8S WILL BE THE ONE TO WORTH THE WAITING!!

I am waiting for the 8S.. If Apple releases an Iphone SE with 8S internals , I am IN , if not, I will problably get the standard 4.7 8S .

OR maybe I can wait for the 9S , which will be released in 2021. It will be a huge upgrade over the SE.. I hope that Apple continue to release 4 inch Iphone with S iphones internals
I am on S cycle !!
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I know I'm holding out for OLED for my next phone. Whether that is 2018 (or beyond), will depend mostly on Apple.

In the meantime, my 6s performs swimmingly...still on iOS 9.0.2 and tweaked to perfection courtesy of untethered jail-break.

It's conceivable that I could wait until 2019 ip8s. My last phone lasted over 10 yrs so there is some history there. 🙂
 
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Math889 said:
Those who are still waiting for iphone 8.... the 8S WILL BE THE ONE TO WORTH THE WAITING!!

I am waiting for the 8S.. If Apple releases an Iphone SE with 8S internals , I am IN , if not, I will problably get the standard 4.7 8S .

OR maybe I can wait for the 9S , which will be released in 2021. It will be a huge upgrade over the SE.. I hope that Apple continue to release 4 inch Iphone with S iphones internals
I am on S cycle !!
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Dude, why not wait for the 15S in 2033? You'd be wasting your money on a 9S when 15S is just around the corner.
 
eyoungren said:
Totally agree with you on this.

I am not opposed to dropping around $900 or even $1000 when I know that the money I am spending is buying me the highest capacity version Apple sells for that model. Both my 5, my traded in 6+ and my 6s+ all cost around that.

But, I AM opposed to paying that price to find out it's what Apple might be charging for the smallest capacity of that model. I make this statement because usually when prices are quoted around Apple devices it's for the device with the least capacity or least options. And if the price goes UP from there - no, no way. I'll do another year on my 6s+.
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Looks don't matter to you then.

That's fine. Features don't matter to me.

I have a Sanyo Katana in my drawer. I don't do anything on my current iPhone 6s+ that my old Sanyo Katana couldn't do. So features don't matter to me. Sure they are nice, but not as nice as knowing that the phone I am going to use for the next 2 to 3.5 years is a phone I'm going to like.

I am not trying to convince you to see my side, but I am pointing out that I have what are legitimate reasons to me to prefer looks over features.

Ultimately, if you can understand that other people may place a different value on things than you do then I've made my point. Why people place importance on those things you do not and vice versa isn't really relevant.
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you can browse the web on a katana?
 
Zaft said:
you can browse the web on a katana?
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Yep. Not well. Proprietary browser built into the phone, but I did that for a while. It wasn't great but for the first five months we had a UD plan in 2009 it worked.

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Yep. Not well. Proprietary browser built into the phone, but I did that for a while. It wasn't great but for the first five months we had a UD plan in 2009 it worked.

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Thats... just.. funny. Its not even close to a modern smartphone, so for you to say it can do everything an iPhone can is false. its not even an opinion.
 
Zaft said:
Thats... just.. funny. Its not even close to a modern smartphone, so for you to say it can do everything an iPhone can is false. its not even an opinion.
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You are making the assumption that because I said it can do what the iPhone can that I meant it can do it just as well. Then you are basing this criticism on that assumption.

I never said the Katana could browse the internet as well as the iPhone. And I am not now, nor have I ever said it was equal to the iPhone. But you CAN browse the internet on a Katana - which is my point and nothing more.

I also notice you are only cherry-picking one aspect. You're not complaining that I implied the Katana makes better calls than the iPhone. You aren't complaining that I implied the Katana does email or text messaging better than the iPhone. You only chose one aspect because it's the easiest to criticize me on.

Which also means you are missing the entire point of my post. I don't buy the iPhone because of features.
 
eyoungren said:
You are making the assumption that because I said it can do what the iPhone can that I meant it can do it just as well. Then you are basing this criticism on that assumption.

I never said the Katana could browse the internet as well as the iPhone. And I am not now, nor have I ever said it was equal to the iPhone. But you CAN browse the internet on a Katana - which is my point and nothing more.

I also notice you are only cherry-picking one aspect. You're not complaining that I implied the Katana makes better calls than the iPhone. You aren't complaining that I implied the Katana does email or text messaging better than the iPhone. You only chose one aspect because it's the easiest to criticize me on.

Which also means you are missing the entire point of my post. I don't buy the iPhone because of features.
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Quite a dress-down for Zaft. 😀

As for buying a new phone based on looks...it's anyone's choice. One reason is as good as another.

I would consider a Samsung or Pixel OLED Android phone, but fear the former (S8) will be too big and the latter is an unknown right now.

Either way, for now...the 6s is very satisfactory. Only niggle is a small spider crack (1/8" long at right corner tip) which I'm fine with.
 
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You are making the assumption that because I said it can do what the iPhone can that I meant it can do it just as well. Then you are basing this criticism on that assumption.

I never said the Katana could browse the internet as well as the iPhone. And I am not now, nor have I ever said it was equal to the iPhone. But you CAN browse the internet on a Katana - which is my point and nothing more.

I also notice you are only cherry-picking one aspect. You're not complaining that I implied the Katana makes better calls than the iPhone. You aren't complaining that I implied the Katana does email or text messaging better than the iPhone. You only chose one aspect because it's the easiest to criticize me on.

Which also means you are missing the entire point of my post. I don't buy the iPhone because of features.
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I simply choose web browsing, of course texting and email are also better.
 
Hmm...it is definitely fun to speculate. Based on the rumors so far, I think I'll hold onto my new 7 Plus well past the release of the next batch of iPhones. It would probably be extremely difficult to get a hold of the premium one anyway until a few months after release.

I've already got OLED on my S7 and S7 Edge. That's great for VR but other than that, I don't find it that exciting now that the novelty has worn off. I find the IPhone 7 Plus display fine for the 99% of the time I interact with a smart phone screen outside of VR. I can say the same of my HTC 10 LCD display. It's very good for most of what I need to see on a smart phone display.

As I do a lot of online shopping, for me the key selling point is color accuracy in my display. I don't want a display that artificially punches up blues or reds and misleads me about the color of the item I'm purchasing.

I'm going to invest in a good VR capable display someday when the industry is more mature and the applications are more compelling. That might be in 2018. We are getting there surpsingly fast but we are not there yet. Not for phone based VR anyway...in my very humble opinion. And I'm not even sure Apple even plans to commit to VR. They seem all in on AR with very little comment on VR. I think I'll have to keep my second line dedicated to Android if I want to continue to explore VR. Meanwhile my existing Samsungs are better than fine for that purpose so I don't plan to upgrade those anytime soon, either.

Again, I already have wireless charging and a few charging pads. It is fun and has its convenient side, but most of the time I go for fast charging via directly plugging the phone in. Then I can use it at the same time if need be.

iPhones are hella expensive and my 7 Plus was a doozy. So I think I'll hold onto it longer than I held onto my 6s plus. The camera is finally where I need it to be and now I've got a nice plug in stereo mic. I'm good for a long while. I do think the 7 Plus was a great upgrade from my 6s Plus. That surprised me, but it was. So I would imagine the next generation of iPhones will be worthwhile for people whose older phones are dying and need an upgrade, but not necessarily super compelling for those of us who just upgraded.
 
In 2018, there will be multiple suppliers for the OLED screen and I can already see the future threads quite vividly in my imagination...how much better will the Samsung screens be compared to the Chinese and Japanese suppliers.

It's the looming controversy. Will make the Samsung-TSMC wars pale in comparison. 😀
 
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eyoungren said:
You are making the assumption that because I said it can do what the iPhone can that I meant it can do it just as well. Then you are basing this criticism on that assumption.

I never said the Katana could browse the internet as well as the iPhone. And I am not now, nor have I ever said it was equal to the iPhone. But you CAN browse the internet on a Katana - which is my point and nothing more.

I also notice you are only cherry-picking one aspect. You're not complaining that I implied the Katana makes better calls than the iPhone. You aren't complaining that I implied the Katana does email or text messaging better than the iPhone. You only chose one aspect because it's the easiest to criticize me on.

Which also means you are missing the entire point of my post. I don't buy the iPhone because of features.
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A Model T will get you from A to B but the experience will be a very long way from being in a current S-class Mercedes.

As for the cherry-picking, you're not complaining that he's not complaining that you implied that the Katana can run third-party apps better than the iPhone, or that the Katana can play media and cast it to remote devices better than the iPhone, or that the Katana has more storage than the iPhone, or that the Katana has better wifi that then iPhone, or that the Katana looks better than the iPhone 😕, so who's cherry-picking now?

If you don't actually write stuff you can't criticise others for not responding to it 🙄
 
tomjleeds said:
A Model T will get you from A to B but the experience will be a very long way from being in a current S-class Mercedes.

As for the cherry-picking, you're not complaining that he's not complaining that you implied that the Katana can run third-party apps better than the iPhone, or that the Katana can play media and cast it to remote devices better than the iPhone, or that the Katana has more storage than the iPhone, or that the Katana has better wifi that then iPhone, or that the Katana looks better than the iPhone 😕, so who's cherry-picking now?

If you don't actually write stuff you can't criticise others for not responding to it 🙄
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I believe I've made my point. How well the device can do what I mentioned as compared to a modern device is not relevant to the argument.

But the car analogy is apt because it was one I was thinking of myself.

In any case, it remains that I do not purchase an iPhone because of features. If that rankles people's sensitivities, I'm sorry I cannot help that. I buy based on looks and will continue to buy based on looks. As long as the iPhone or any other device I buy based on looks can continue to do phone calls, email, messaging and browsing of the internet (no matter how well) it will be a device I buy.

If it looks good but cannot make calls, do messaging and email or browse the internet then I'll pass as those are my minimum requirements.
 
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