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I mean are we using this as a crowbar? Cmon what’s this fetish with bending?
well, I think the iPhone 6 bent fairly easy. it was a thin, aluminum framed phone. I had one that suddenly stopped working. I took it to the Apple Store and the guy said "looks like it was bent...see that slight arc?" He swapped mine out with a new/refurbed one in the back and sent me on my way.

because this phone has been shown near an iPhone 6 we have that thought coming back.
 
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That was my question the first time I read it was being released! I remember mostly with iPads.

Thank you.



Cool if the legacy or classic extension for the one was updated but know that will never happen. A lot would pay good amount for it not all of course.

My point is was quicker, by only a little, with new content on any kind of discussion topics / forum. Sometimes too much so.
 
130 pounds of pressure doesn’t sound like a lot though? The average person weighs more than that. And I know when you’re sitting, not all of your weight is on the seat itself, but most of it is. I guess avoid sitting with it in your back pocket.
Lets say its 3/4 of your weight is on your ass, only half of that is one the phone, and most likely the weight is spread evenly across the phone. If your ass is hard enough to cause a pressure point, then you are not fat enough for the weight to matter.
 
What is not mentioned about this bend test is that the battery now has internal damage from the mix being stressed. Expect power issues if you ever bend your phone that much.
 
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I mean…yeah, Bendgate is up there with Antennagate and AirPower as one of Apple’s biggest blunders. they were gonna make DAMN sure they preempted EVERYONE’S first thought with this model. wildly impressive stuff to me from an engineering standpoint.

(also, re: Antennagate…do you think some smartass Apple exec was like “while we’re doing stuff that reminds people of our less-than-stellar moments, why not bring back the bumper we offered to everyone who experienced Antennagate?” lmaoooo)
 
I am sure some idiot on Youtube will run over the iPhone Air with their Tesla and then call out Apple as a bunch of "liars", all the while proclaiming that the Samsung T1000 Google Booger Pixel - whatever, would never bend under the weight of two Tesla's running it over. At the same time calling out how Tim 'Crook' is a fraud and how Apple can't innovate anymore, and of course "Steve Jobs would have never..." blah, blah, blah, blah.

Most people will actually use the Air for the own pleasure and not spend oodles of time deliberately trying to break or bend it.
 
In reading quite a number of comments about the 17 Air, I am seeing many iPhone Pro users who present as high-functioning, bleeding edge, tech savvy people who may replace their Pro devices with new Pro devices every 12-24 months if not sooner. The are commenting (from a PRO user perspective) on the compromised nature of the 17 Air. Their perspective is logical and I get that they question the 17 Air utility and raison d'être. It makes sense.

Conversely, I am seeing commenters on forums:
- coming from OLD, OLD iPhones or coming from iPhones that have had every bit of use and vitality squeezed out.
- who just want a phone & media consumption device... most are not moved by cameras, speeds & feeds, mwave, the lack USB C 3 with its faster data transfer rates, etc.
- whose upgrade cycles are measured only after 5+ years of phone ownership

For these people, the 17 Air is a step up in nearly every respect. The only issue for them would be price.

If they are very price sensitive, they will look at the 16E or the 17 Base before paying 17 Air money. But if they are not price sensitive, and if they want the new light-weight and shiny... and if they are just savvy enough to know that having the A19 Pro chip will ensure their phone lasts 5+ years without issue, they may get the 17 Air and be happy.

If you are the person - and I am this guy - who still has really old devices, but is not price sensitive, and wants the new A19 Pro chip, the upgrade to 17 Air can make sense.

It's the same case for Apple still pitching M-Chip MBPs to people who still have Intel MBPs (again, like I do). My 2013 Intel MBP has been on its last legs since the M3 came out, just like the battery and RAM in my iPhone 13 mini are showing signs of being very ready to retire. The 17 Air looks good to me right now. And, right on time, the prospect of a new M5 MBP in a few months (or a discounted M4 Max MBP)... or a new light-weight A-Chip MacBook might look good to me in a few months if that is a real thing.

Apple does not do what we like all the time. Which is why we complain so much about what they do focus on. But they are hyper-focused on which slivers of their audience they can draw revenue streams from. Don't doubt that.

The Mini did not sell a few thousand units - it sold millions of units across iPhone 12 and 13. But it did not sell to the level of Pros or Base phones on a year-over-year basis. So we think it was a mistake / failure. I don't think so. It was an experiment for Apple. What the mini did - before Apple sunset the device - was set up millions of Mini owners for a replacement cycle. Most Mini folks will not get a Pro. Many will consider a 16E, 17 Base or a 17 Air when they are finally ready for the new thing. Now, for the Mini user... for the non-tech savvy person with long replacement cycles... for the person who does not care about cameras... for the price sensitive... Apple has give them their own "hidden" iPhone product tier:
Base = 16E ($599)
Mid=17 Base ($799)
Pro= 17 Air ($999)

SE, Mini, Air, etc., are tools to keep the left edge of the bell curve engaged and loyal.
 
I really WANT a thinner lighter phone, but battery anxiety wouldn't allow it. So I went with the 17 Chonk Pro instead. Gorgeous phone though. And it comes in black!
 
People are desperately waiting to find the most extreme “tests” on YouTube so they can then claim it’s weak.

Remember when the M4 iPad Pro was released? People on this very forum insisted that that taking that device with no case and intentionally trying to bend it and break it was a realistic measure of its durability. Somehow this would tell them how fragile the iPad would be in a case, put in a backpack and laid flat in a plane’s overhead compartment.

Why don’t these tests ever put the device in a case and put it through real world scenarios over a week or month to see what happens? Because they know nothing would happen. So instead we need to see someone do ridiculous things to make it bend or break, to then criticise Apple for the device being fragile.

It’s nonsense.
 
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Love the Air form factor. Not sure the camera deficiencies will work for me. But man, the chunky pro models … maybe a boring ole 17 will be the one?
 
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