Will the iPhone ever be able to be unlocked from now on besides Gevey sim?

[ap3604]

I had an iPhone 4 and the dev team declared certain basebands were unlockable.

You could still unlock the phone w/ the illegal Gevey sim method but it got me wondering... Now that Apple sells an factory unlocked version for $50 more, is there ever going to be motivation to make another software unlock for the iPhone going forward?

Sorry if it's a newbie question, just wondered...

 

[maturola]

I had an iPhone 4 and the dev team declared certain basebands were unlockable.

You could still unlock the phone w/ the illegal Gevey sim method but it got me wondering... Now that Apple sells an factory unlocked version for $50 more, is there ever going to be motivation to make another software unlock for the iPhone going forward?

Sorry if it's a newbie question, just wondered...

HArd to say, my guess is Yes, why not?... but you are asking about "Motivation"...that is very subjective what motivate some people may not others, there will always be someone picking up the load until they got fed up and move on (Or get an internship on Apple )...

 

[TC25]

...is there ever going to be motivation to make another software unlock for the iPhone going forward?

No.

 

[maturola]

No.

I can think of one right on the top of my head, the factory unlock allow only International SIM to work on those phones (at least on the US) so a Sprint iPhone unlock won't work on AT&T, but only with International SIMs. A software unlock can/could/potentially overcome this limitation.

 

[labman]

I can think of one right on the top of my head, the factory unlock allow only International SIM to work on those phones (at least on the US) so a Sprint iPhone unlock won't work on AT&T, but only with International SIMs. A software unlock can/could/potentially overcome this limitation.

Expect you can buy a Factory Unlocked iPhone 4 at apple and latter this month the 4S. Dev-team has not talked about a unlock in a long time. Of course they could be saving there twitters from blowing up.

 

[maturola]

Expect you can buy a Factory Unlocked iPhone 4 at apple and latter this month the 4S. Dev-team has not talked about a unlock in a long time. Of course they could be saving there twitters from blowing up.

They usually never do, specially without the 4S JB no being ready, they focus on JB before unlock every time (even when it is kind of parallel)

 

[uzairahmed5]

At&t Unlock

Hey Guys,

If I have a friend who has at&t and has the iphone 4s, will apple unlock the iphone 4s if my friends tells them that she is going to another country? I have t-mobile and I am willing to buy it off of her if it is unlocked.

 

[labman]

Hey Guys,

If I have a friend who has at&t and has the iphone 4s, will apple unlock the iphone 4s if my friends tells them that she is going to another country? I have t-mobile and I am willing to buy it off of her if it is unlocked.

no AT&T does not even unlock for military personal serving overseas. her best option sell it and buy a factory unlocked (if she can) Apple is supposed to start selling them this month.

 

[nebo1ss]

I can think of one right on the top of my head, the factory unlock allow only International SIM to work on those phones (at least on the US) so a Sprint iPhone unlock won't work on AT&T, but only with International SIMs. A software unlock can/could/potentially overcome this limitation.

You are mixing up two different issues here.

A sprint unlock phone and a Factory unlock phone which will be sold by apple later this month. There are no restrictions on the factory unlock only on a sprint phone which has the GSM capability unlocked.

 

[Applejuiced]

Hey Guys,

If I have a friend who has at&t and has the iphone 4s, will apple unlock the iphone 4s if my friends tells them that she is going to another country? I have t-mobile and I am willing to buy it off of her if it is unlocked.

No, AT&T does not unlock any iphones no matter what the excuse is.
Neither would Apple unlock an AT&T locked iphone so you're out of luck.

 

[apollo1444]

sprints phone is unlocked isn't it?

 

[eastercat]

It's not a real unlock. It's only good for international carriers. Also, if you took it to verizon, they'd laugh at you.

While motivation does factor into the software unlock, the big issue has been talent. The dev team doesn't have anyone who can do the unlock. Hashim found the exploit, but the person who wrote the software bailed.

sprints phone is unlocked isn't it?

 

[TC25]

I can think of one right on the top of my head, the factory unlock allow only International SIM to work on those phones (at least on the US) so a Sprint iPhone unlock won't work on AT&T, but only with International SIMs. A software unlock can/could/potentially overcome this limitation.

See post by nebo1ss. You're incorrect.

 

[maturola]

See post by nebo1ss. You're incorrect.

You guys are missing the point, factory unlock phone are NOT yet available so that is a motivation to work on it (just an example from the top of my head at the moment i made the port), the point is that there will always be a drive for it, even if it is just saving money.

 

[Solange82200]

Sometimes I wish they would charge for the jailbreak and unlocks, I would be willing to pay a reasonable price, and maybe it would encourage some more geniuses to come aboard and get things cracking?

My problem is that I cant afford to pay 700 or whatever upfront for an unlocked phone, I can afford 200 though, and to pay the contract for two years. However, I never thought of what someone said above, just sell my new locked phone that I paid 200 for on Ebay, and use that money and the 100 or 200 extra to buy an unlocked phone... That is a really good idea, duh, never thought of it.... I dont really need an unlock per say, since I plan on staying with ATT, but it would be nice to be able to go to other countries and use the sim I want...

 

[TC25]

Sometimes I wish they would charge for the jailbreak and unlocks, I would be willing to pay a reasonable price, and maybe it would encourage some more geniuses to come aboard and get things cracking?

IMO, this will never happen. Doing this would give Apple a specific set of people/entity to go after. Additionally, far too many people already whine about jb and unlocks and it's free. If they charged for it, the whining would become intolerable.

 

[HellDiverUK]

In places without a retarded telecoms industry (in other words not the US), you just have to ring your carrier and request your phone be unlocked. You don't even have to be out of contract.

 

[TC25]

In places without a retarded telecoms industry (in other words not the US), you just have to ring your carrier and request your phone be unlocked. You don't even have to be out of contract.

Old news. The US picked a different way to market cell phones. I'll keep the current US model versus the retarded socialist model.

 

[HellDiverUK]

I'll keep the current US model versus the retarded socialist model.

That's the most idiotic thing I've ever seen written on this forum. Wow.

 

[TC25]

That's the most idiotic thing I've ever seen written on this forum. Wow.

Thanks. The two ways of marketing cell phones is not right or wrong, or retarded and not retarded. They are simply different.

 

[ericrwalker]

No, AT&T does not unlock any iphones no matter what the excuse is.
Neither would Apple unlock an AT&T locked iphone so you're out of luck.

I have had a phone unlocked at AT&T before, and they gave me a code to enter. Hypothetically, what would AT&T have to do to unlock an iPhone? Is it just a code?

 

[TC25]

I have had a phone unlocked at AT&T before, and they gave me a code to enter. Hypothetically, what would AT&T have to do to unlock an iPhone? Is it just a code?

It's not that ATT can't, it's they wont unlock iPhones. They'd tell Apple to change their database and the next time you synch via iTunes it'd be unlocked.

 

[h1r0ll3r]

I have had a phone unlocked at AT&T before, and they gave me a code to enter. Hypothetically, what would AT&T have to do to unlock an iPhone? Is it just a code?

Nearly all dumb phones can be unlocked with a code you enter in through the device itself.

For iPhones, it's essentially a database where your IMEI or phone serial number is entered allowing you to have an unlocked phone.

 

[ericrwalker]

It's not that ATT can't, it's they wont unlock iPhones. They'd tell Apple to change their database and the next time you synch via iTunes it'd be unlocked.

You missed my point, I know they won't. I want to know what they would have to do, if they were (hence the hypothetical question) to do it.

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For iPhones, it's essentially a database where your IMEI or phone serial number is entered allowing you to have an unlocked phone.

So AT&T would then remove your IMEI from a worldwide database to be used on other carriers? I am not sure that's right, unless the database is kept on some other server. I think the lock is built into the phone hardware or firmware.

 

[TC25]

You missed my point, I know they won't. I want to know what they would have to do, if they were (hence the hypothetical question) to do it.

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So AT&T would then remove your IMEI from a worldwide database to be used on other carriers? I am not sure that's right, unless the database is kept on some other server. I think the lock is built into the phone hardware or firmware.

I answered your question about how it's done. Apple does it, not ATT.