iPhone XR Will The iPhone XR Have The Same Text Size/PPI as Apple Watch?

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  1. ghsNick macrumors 68030

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    Will the iPhone XR display text in the same size and PPI as the Apple Watch Series 4 (44mm)?

    For example, when I read an iMessage on my Apple Watch Series 4 (44mm) the text looks just fine...if the text looks the same on the iPhone XR I don’t think I’ll notice a difference between the higher PPI my 8 Plus has.

    Any idea on this? (I’m not sure if people with an iPhone 8/7/6 can compare)

    Thanks!
     
  2. Aneres11 macrumors 68020

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    Dude you’re really torturing yourself over this PPI stuff aren’t you? There are already threads (that you have posted in) detailing PPI over and over and over and over again and there really isn’t much more anyone can say other than wait until the phone is out, check it in store and if the screen offends you so much, don’t buy it.

    Comparing it to an  watch is really not going to help ease your mind with this.
     
  3. ghsNick thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Why not? If it’s the same as my Apple Watch Series 4, I’ll know I’ve been “worried” about nothing.

    Just trying to see if the look of the text (within the Messages App) on my Watch is the same as the PPI/Text on the XR.
     
  4. JPack macrumors 68040

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    Both the Watch S4 and iPhone XR have the same 326 PPI. But the XR will look even sharper due to the use of LCD and the extra subpixels associated with RGB stripe.
     
  5. bradley8795 macrumors regular

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    I disagree. I think the watch will look sharper because for most people it isn’t held as close to the face as a watch. But 99% of people can’t see the difference between 326 ppi and 458 ppi.

    I don’t understand why so many people go nuts over the ppi. Apple isn’t going to put something so atrocious in it that you will notice a huge difference. The difference you will see is the oled vs led difference. Not the ppi.
     
  6. JPack macrumors 68040

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    I suspect most users hold larger displays further away. As a result, larger displays require lower PPI. You’ll notice the iPhone has a higher PPI than iPad which has a higher PPI than MacBook.
     
  7. Squeak825 macrumors 6502

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    You spend a lot of time talking about a phone you don’t really want and think is deficient. :D
     
  8. OTACORB macrumors 68000

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    Get that XR next Friday DAWG, you'll love it! So many have made a fool of themselves over the PPI stuff and that is has a lower resolution screen. Yet not a single person that seen these phones in person has made any comments in regards to them looking really bad or not acceptable. Sure they mention the lower PPI and resolution, but none of them have said.. OMG they look terrible. Because it doesn't.
     
  9. x-evil-x macrumors 601

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    youre saying that lcd's are sharper then oleds? hmm
     
  10. apolloa macrumors G4

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    Another day another XR PPI thread....

    Guys, at this point it’s really not worth the stress of hatred, just wait till it’s actually out...

    I mean its possible the new iPad Pro’s may have reduced PPI looking at the rumours, then your heads will explode!!
     
  11. davedvdy macrumors 6502a

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    The screen will look fine but it's still subpar. Less than 1080p on a phone, something that was accomplished with Apple in 2014? As I say, it's a step backward. "Liquid Retina" is a marketing term joke.
     
  12. maerz001, Oct 13, 2018
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    maerz001 macrumors 65816

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    No it’s a step on the same spot since iPhone 4. All non+ had 326ppi even while getting bigger screen sizes.

    So why should it look different to the iPhone 4,5,6,7,8?????
    Nobody complained that suddenly the screen looked blurry
     
  13. apolloa, Oct 13, 2018
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    But but but but but that PPI value!!!! It’s not as high as the XS! It’s a total disaster aaahhhhhh!! :rolleyes::rolleyes:

    I mean comparing it to the Apple Watch screen is really reaching IMO...
    It’s not healthy to go over the same thing time after time. Especially as no one on this site has even seen the XR in person.
     
  14. Phone Junky macrumors 65816

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    And yet millions upon millions of people will buy it, use it, and enjoy it without ever knowing, or even caring, what the resolution or PPI is. If these things are that important to you, then you'll have to pony up the extra Benjamins to get the phone with the "better" screen. Pretty simple.
     
  15. davedvdy, Oct 13, 2018
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    davedvdy macrumors 6502a

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    All that means is Apple has duped people into believing they have an amazing iPhone. What is your point?
    828p is amazing in 2018! Magic tricks have been performed! Gawd, you're brilliant!
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    The iPhone 4 came out 8 years ago with that PPI. Groundbreaking for $749+ People are so smart though.
     
  16. AppleHaterLover macrumors 68000

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    When people here learn that the iPad isn’t even 270 ppi there’ll be riots on the streets
     
  17. ghsNick thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Thanks for confirming they both are 326 PPI. I’m pretty sure I’ll be using both around the same distance from my face...so maybe my complaints about 326 are unwarranted?

    I’ve been using Plus sized phones since the 6 Plus...I was just worrying it would be terrible going back to 326ppi.

    Maybe I was wrong?
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    Im pretty sure I use both around the same distances. And I’ve also read OLED “PPI” is less than LCD PPI.

    Not sure how accurate that is, but hopefully I’m pleasantly surprised with the XR.
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    If you insist!!!
     
  18. Phone Junky macrumors 65816

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    My point is you are in a small minority of people that care or even know the specs of the screen. If most of Apple’s customers don’t know the tech specs, but buy the product anyway, they must be happy with what they’re buying. XR sales will show this, as much as you may dislike it.
     
  19. ghsNick thread starter macrumors 68030

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    I have no devices from Apple that are 326 PPI...so I’m just trying to see if I can compare it with something I own before preordering.
     
  20. apolloa macrumors G4

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    And I would have thought by now you’d of learnt it’s pointless. The Apple watch is OLED. It will by nature be different to LCD. And then you have everyone saying you can’t compare different screens like iPads as you hold the screens at different lengths.
    You going to have to patient and wait to see it yourself, I would before spending that much money.
    It’s like a TV. You wouldn’t buy one without seeing its picture first.
     
  21. ghsNick thread starter macrumors 68030

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    No, if someone with an iPhone 8 can go into iMessage and also go into their watches iMessages...it’s very easy to compare the size/resolution of text side by side.

    It’s a pretty close match with my 8 Plus...just seeing if someone else with a 326 PPI iPhone could also give it a look to compare it.
     
  22. GrumpyMom macrumors 604

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    I once compared very closely an iPhone 7 to 7 Plus display. I have really insane vision as long as things are held in the range where I can see them without my glasses. Then I notice everything that seems to escape most people I know.

    What I noticed is greater fine detail in photographs. Which is also what I see when I compared my XS Max display to my Samsung S9+, which has the highest ppi of any phone I’ve ever owned. So there will probably be a slight loss of details in photos compared to what you’re used to. If my comparison of a 7 to 7 Plus display can translate to what we will see out of the Xr. And I don’t know that it will.

    With text, there’s just a tiny bit more graininess. Very tiny. Most people seem unable to see it. Even people like me who can see it, usually don’t have a problem with it.

    I sent my Max back. I had to. PWM on it was causing me problems. I’m really excited to be preordering an Xr. I don’t think I’ll notice the loss in ppi, once I have the phone in hand and just use go about using it. I would only really be cognizant of the decreased ppi when comparing it to the display on my other phones, which include an 8 Plus that I am keeping and a Galaxy S9+. Which is a comparison I’m not going to spend more than a moment doing. And that’s just to satisfy my curiosity. Not to bemoan the difference.

    No, I am using it to make calls and do my stuff. Even looking at photos and videos on it, I expect that they’re going to look nice.

    When my friend shows me photos on her iPhone 6, I don’t go “Oh my God, my eyes my eyes! I can’t see the whiskers on the cats as sharply as I can on my Samsung!” No, I see a cat with whiskers and smile.

    I think all of the new iPhones are too danged expensive. But I think the XR is priced okay relative to all the others in the lineup. There are benefits I’m looking forward to and trade offs I’m willing to accept and yeah for a couple hundred less out of my pocket I’ll get a less detailed display than I had on the Max.

    I’m also expecting to have better battery life. Maybe even a few surprise benefits I don’t anticipate. And a being a realistic adult, I expect a couple of drawbacks, too.

    I won’t know until I try it.

    Would I have liked to have had the same display ppi as on an 8 Plus? Sure. But I would imagine there was a reason besides bean counting that they did not go that route. I guess I’ll find out. If I hate it I can always return it. My remaining 8 Plus hasn’t gone extinct yet.

    If you’re on some kind of plan that makes it difficult to return and get a different phone then be patient and wait for them to be in stores where you can see them. If the ppi bothers you, by all means pass it up. It’s possible it will bother you. But that’s impossible to predict.

    Some mighty strange things have bothered me about some Apple products. Same as with other people. We all have our quirks.

    Good luck on whatever you decide!
     
  23. maerz001 macrumors 65816

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    Isn’t there anyone around you with an non+ iPhone? Or go to a shop and look at the 7 or 8
     
  24. AppleHaterLover macrumors 68000

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    There must be 50+ shops within a 1 mile radius of him that have an iPhone 6s/7/8 on display...
     
  25. woodynorman macrumors 6502a

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    You know you can return it, no questions asked, within 14 days right?

    Order it, try it, and return it if you don't like it.

    Easy peasy.
     

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