iPad Will the new iPads have edge to edge display for videos?

[iPhone XS Max]

As the title states...

Are any of the new iPads going to be able to display video in true full display or
We back to black bars again?

 

[AppleHaterLover]

I won't give you a response. Think for yourself:

-iPad 11" is now 1.43:1 (IMAX)
-iPad 12" is still 1.33:1 (4:3)

Broadcast TV is 16:9 (1.77:1). Hollywood movies are 1.85:1.

use this information and reach a conclusion.

 

[JP913]

I won't give you a response. Think for yourself:

-iPad 11" is now 1.43:1 (IMAX)
-iPad 12" is still 1.33:1 (4:3)

Broadcast TV is 16:9 (1.77:1). Hollywood movies are 1.85:1.

use this information and reach a conclusion.

Don’t forget anamorphic widescreen 2.35:1!

 

[AppleHaterLover]

Don’t forget anamorphic widescreen 2.35:1!

That too.

 

[Nozuka]

Depending on the App you might be able to choose between black bars or cutting off some of the content.

The bars of the 11'' will be a bit smaller now though, because of the new and wider aspect ratio.

 

[iPhone XS Max]

I won't give you a response. Think for yourself:

-iPad 11" is now 1.43:1 (IMAX)
-iPad 12" is still 1.33:1 (4:3)

Broadcast TV is 16:9 (1.77:1). Hollywood movies are 1.85:1.

use this information and reach a conclusion.

Thanks.

Upsetting, but it is what it is .

 

[EEzycade]

Just sad

 

[yegon]

What video, bar old 4:3 footage, has ever filled an iPad screen?

Once apps are updated, in landscape it’ll be edge to edge horizontally just like every iPad. Black bars top and bottom.

Granted, retaining 4:3 seems like it would have been simpler but hey.

 

[JP913]

Thanks.

Upsetting, but it is what it is .

How's it any different than a widescreen TV? There's plenty of times that there's black bars on top and bottom (or on the sides!) on my TV. The iPad (and iPhone) work the same way. I believe you can just double-tap the video on your iPad and it'll slightly zoom in (depending on the aspect ratio) to fill up your screen.

 

[MEJHarrison]

Thanks.

Upsetting, but it is what it is .

Upsetting? How so?
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Just sad

What is sad? How is it sad?

 

[canyonblue737]

Thanks.

Upsetting, but it is what it is .

Think for a minute what a true 16:9 display of 11 or 12.9 inch size would look. It would be a usability nightmare in terms of size and look for anything BUT video. You will NEVER get an iPad in 16:9, never.

 

[MEJHarrison]

Since we're talking video, I personally don't see black bars as the enemy. That just means I'm viewing the film/show in the aspect ratio it was designed to be shown at. Any zooming to get rid of black bars will toss out picture meant to be viewed. That's basic geometry right there. There are only two logical ways to fit a rectangle inside another rectangle of different proportions.

I get that there are two camps at war here. Those more concerned with lighting every single pixel of their screen regardless of what they're tossing out to make that happen. And those that want to see the content as it was originally intended to be viewed regardless of the dead space that leaves around the content. This was started back in the DVD days with Widescreen vs. Full-Screen, and it continues today. I'm sure it will continue in the future for as long as we're using fixed aspect-ratio screens.

Thankfully, the iPad easily accommodates both points of view. But it will never be a magical device that perfectly fits different proportioned rectangles. That's mathematically impossible. You will ALWAYS lose content zooming or have black bars (unless you find something that fits the screen perfectly of course).

 

[AppleHaterLover]

Since we're talking video, I personally don't see black bars as the enemy. That just means I'm viewing the film/show in the aspect ratio it was designed to be shown at. Any zooming to get rid of black bars will toss out picture meant to be viewed. That's basic geometry right there. There are only two logical ways to fit a rectangle inside another rectangle of different proportions.

I get that there are two camps at war here. Those more concerned with lighting every single pixel of their screen regardless of what they're tossing out to make that happen. And those that want to see the content as it was originally intended to be viewed regardless of the dead space that leaves around the content. This was started back in the DVD days with Widescreen vs. Full-Screen, and it continues today. I'm sure it will continue in the future for as long as we're using fixed aspect-ratio screens.

Thankfully, the iPad easily accommodates both points of view. But it will never be a magical device that perfectly fits different proportioned rectangles. That's mathematically impossible. You will ALWAYS lose content zooming or have black bars (unless you find something that fits the screen perfectly of course).

TBH I feel 16:9 is an awful aspect ratio for anything BUT a widescreen TV. That's part of the reason no Apple laptop is 16:9.

So many people complain because it's the only time they get to think about it - not when they need to do some writing and the screen shows the entire page instead of the half a paragraph you can see on a 16:9 screen.

 

[MEJHarrison]

TBH I feel 16:9 is an awful aspect ratio for anything BUT a widescreen TV. That's part of the reason no Apple laptop is 16:9.

My iMac is 5120x2880, which is 16x9 or 1.78:1.

My MacBook is 2560x1600, which is 16x10 or 1.6:1.

 

[AppleHaterLover]

My iMac is 5120x2880, which is 16x9 or 1.78:1.

My MacBook is 2560x1600, which is 16x10 or 1.6:1.

OK, but are there any current 16:9 Apple laptops? I don't think so. The 11" MBA was 16:9 but it was horrible, complete **** in every possible way and impossible to do any work on - including because of the display - so that doesn't count.

For larger displays, I think 16:9 is passable (intially I only thought about laptops and their smaller displays because I only use laptops) - the 21.5" iMac is large enough.

 

[MEJHarrison]

The 11" MBA was 16:9 but... that doesn't count.

Well, that's just too silly to argue with as is nit-picking the differences between 16x9 and 16x10 on an actual computer.

This is a thread complaining about the giant black bars on the new iPad Pro. I claim no big deal. If you'd like to debate that answer, let me have it. If you want to discuss the aspect ratios of various laptops, maybe go hit up the Mac section. This side discussion feels a bit out of place here.

 

[AppleHaterLover]

Well, that's just too silly to argue with as is nit-picking the differences between 16x9 and 16x10 on an actual computer.

This is a thread complaining about the giant black bars on the new iPad Pro. I claim no big deal. If you'd like to debate that answer, let me have it. If you want to discuss the aspect ratios of various laptops, maybe go hit up the Mac section. This side discussion feels a bit out of place here.

I don’t think it’s nitpicking - Apple says these are laptop replacements to some extent. Depending on your workflow, aspect ratios can have a negative impact.

Indeed, the original purpose of this thread was “will there be black bars on my iPad Pro screen when watching movies”, and there is an answer and the answer is yes, there probably will, so I’m out.

 

[MEJHarrison]

I don’t think it’s nitpicking - Apple says these are laptop replacements to some extent. Depending on your workflow, aspect ratios can have a negative impact.

But there's a vast difference between a tablet and a laptop. On the tablet, multi-tasking aside, your app is designed to run full screen. Your size and position are already pre-determined for you. You can't write an app that just sits in a window up in the corner of your screen. On a laptop, you have windows. Your app can be full screen, no screen or anywhere in-between. It can also be multiple windows. Apple can call them laptop replacements all they like. But this is one area where you can't do an apples-to-apples comparison.

Sorry, I just don't see the point in comparing the two. They're completely different beasts despite what Apple claims. At least in this particular area.

That's why for me, aspect ratios are more important on a tablet than an actual computer. On a real computer, I don't care about the aspect ratio because I can resize and reposition my window to be whatever size and aspect ratio I choose. You can't do that on a tablet.

 

[cibonak]

But there's a vast difference between a tablet and a laptop. On the tablet, multi-tasking aside, your app is designed to run full screen. Your size and position are already pre-determined for you. You can't write an app that just sits in a window up in the corner of your screen. On a laptop, you have windows. Your app can be full screen, no screen or anywhere in-between. It can also be multiple windows. Apple can call them laptop replacements all they like. But this is one area where you can't do an apples-to-apples comparison.

Sorry, I just don't see the point in comparing the two. They're completely different beasts despite what Apple claims. At least in this particular area.

That's why for me, aspect ratios are more important on a tablet than an actual computer. On a real computer, I don't care about the aspect ratio because I can resize and reposition my window to be whatever size and aspect ratio I choose. You can't do that on a tablet.

Yes, you can

 

[MEJHarrison]

Yes, you can

Yes you can... What? You responded to three paragraphs with three words. Care to elaborate? Maybe give some context to your reply? Otherwise, I'll just counter with, "nice try, but you're completely wrong".