Will the next 12" Retina Macbook be released at the March event?

[ThurmanMerman]

Hey guys,

I'm looking at getting the 12" Retina and have been waiting for the 2nd gen to be released. However the rumours of it being launched in the March event seem to have died off, has anyone got any info on it of late?

 

[sakabaro]

I would say so. I am also hoping for a new 14" + a refresh or maybe a full redesign of the MB pro retina line.

Timing seems even late compared the past:
- 284 days since last release for MB pro retina vs. 214 average and 280 max between releases
- 324 days since the release of the MB 12"
- Every other categories are late compared to both average and maximum days between releases
Ref: https://buyersguide.macrumors.com//#Mac

 

[printrenori]

I would say so. I am also hoping for a new 14" + a refresh or maybe a full redesign of the MB pro retina line.

Timing seems even late compared the past:
- 284 days since last release for MB pro retina vs. 214 average and 280 max between releases
- 324 days since the release of the MB 12"
- Every other categories are late compared to both average and maximum days between releases
Ref: https://buyersguide.macrumors.com//#Mac

The 214 day average for the rMBP is kind of a BS number. Last time around, the 13" model and 15" model were refreshed separately, and both count separately in the calculation. An accurate number is more like
(247+251+280+(223+71/2))/4 = 259 days on average.

 

[keviig]

The appropriate skylake core m chips are out, along with TB3 (USB C style port) so i would guess we get a silent update at the march event.

 

[Unrealmac1988]

Even though I know I am a combo breaker now:

I wouldn't be so super confident IF a new/updated rMB will be released in 2016. I am also one of the impatient ones but everyone here takes it pretty much as granted that there will be an update.

Apple follows its own rules and as much as I hope to see an update at this event: noone knows.

The rMB also came as kind of a surprise. Only days/hours before there were rumors that a new MB could a possibility!

What I don't think is that Apple will announce any kind of hardware at WWDC

 

[keviig]

Even though I know I am a combo breaker now:

I wouldn't be so super confident IF a new/updated rMB will be released in 2016. I am also one of the impatient ones but everyone here takes it pretty much as granted that there will be an update.

Apple follows its own rules and as much as I hope to see an update at this event: noone knows.

The rMB also came as kind of a surprise. Only days/hours before there were rumors that a new MB could a possibility!

What I don't think is that Apple will announce any kind of hardware at WWDC

There really is no reason for Apple to ship a computer with an outdated processor for over a year when the new generation of chips have been available from Intel for months. Look at the rMBP's, they've been updated with every Intel processor on a yearly basis since the 15" was introduced in 2012 (except the current one, where broadwell chips weren't available).

 

[Trey M]

I think it's definitely a possibility for the March event. Would probably get only a sliver of time to be discussed but definitely seems like an option since in many ways Apple is positioning the notebook to be the 'future' of computing. With the obvious benefit of Skylake (and hopefully TB3 & increased battery life), the upgrade seems like a reasonable move. Sales have supposedly been pretty good for the rMB's so far. So, if we do see it at the March event, it'll likely include a price drop and whatever other features Apple might have in store. I'll definitely be picking up one of these if they include TB3.

I don't think we'll see any redesigned Macs at this event, though. That I see as a later update in the year.

 

[sakabaro]

The 214 day average for the rMBP is kind of a BS number. Last time around, the 13" model and 15" model were refreshed separately, and both count separately in the calculation. An accurate number is more like
(247+251+280+(223+71/2))/4 = 259 days on average.

We are still at 285 days > 259, it would be surprising to not update the rMB line when you have already pc laptop with OLED screen + skylake CPU.

 

[Roller]

I think it'll be updated at some point this year, but I don't expect an announcement at the March event.

 

[boltjames]

Hey guys,

I'm looking at getting the 12" Retina and have been waiting for the 2nd gen to be released. However the rumours of it being launched in the March event seem to have died off, has anyone got any info on it of late?

There will be no changes to the RMB this year.

It is a niche product, and with Apple about to revamp the Pro and the Air they will have no time and no need to focus on a product that essentially was not even well in stock in Apple stores until August.

BJ

 

[ThurmanMerman]

Alright thanks guys. I think I'll wait until the March event and if nothing is announced, I will purchase it then

 

[kvyoung]

By the looks of the refurbished ones in the Apple Store it looks as though Apple is clearing stock. Every model and color of MacBook is listed in the store. That would seem highly unusual unless they were moving them out.

 

[Koudspeel]

History tells us that they'll do a silent update.

 

[mattopotamus]

I would expect a silent update. I think the macbook gets updated at the March event, and the pros get an update/redesign at WWDC.

 

[Dave245]

I hope so because i really want one to go with my iPad Pro, i think it would be a great combination. Whether Apple will update them at the March event i'm not sure, it's where they unveiled them so it would make sense but it depends whether there would be time in-between announcing the iPhone SE, iPad Air 3 and the new Apple Watch bands.

 

[mattopotamus]

I hope so because i really want one to go with my iPad Pro, i think it would be a great combination. Whether Apple will update them at the March event i'm not sure, it's where they unveiled them so it would make sense but it depends whether there would be time in-between announcing the iPhone SE, iPad Air 3 and the new Apple Watch bands.

Which there should be since the general consensus is just a spec bump. There is nothing new to say outside of, "we updated the macbook to skylake, which results in these "x" gains".

That is the main reason I see only the macbook being updated in march. The pro will need time to unveil since I believe it will have a redesign.

 

[Dave245]

Which there should be since the general consensus is just a spec bump. There is nothing new to say outside of, "we updated the macbook to skylake, which results in these "x" gains".

That is the main reason I see only the macbook being updated in march. The pro will need time to unveil since I believe it will have a redesign.

I can certainly see them waiting until WWDC to announce the MacBook Pro if it's a redesign, although I don't know how much of a redesign can be done for a laptop, maybe make it thinner? Increase the screen resolution? I'm in no big hurry so I may wait and see what Apple does with the MacBook, MacBook Pro and the Air before deciding which one to buy.

 

[mattopotamus]

I can certainly see them waiting until WWDC to announce the MacBook Pro if it's a redesign, although I don't know how much of a redesign can be done for a laptop, maybe make it thinner? Increase the screen resolution? I'm in no big hurry so I may wait and see what Apple does with the MacBook, MacBook Pro and the Air before deciding which one to buy.

They would probably make it thinner, add new ports (maybe even lose some), and make the keyboard smaller. They would also add space grey, gold, silver. Nothing too drastic, but more than they can cover in a few minutes with an already loaded March event (iphone SE, ipad air 3, new apple bands).

 

[printrenori]

There really is no reason for Apple to ship a computer with an outdated processor for over a year when the new generation of chips have been available from Intel for months. Look at the rMBP's, they've been updated with every Intel processor on a yearly basis since the 15" was introduced in 2012 (except the current one, where broadwell chips weren't available).

And not to mention it would be very bizarre if we had a two year period where Apple had one line of laptops with only USB-C and another line with only USB-A. I think they want to hurry up and go all USB-C on the rMBPs, or at least add them.

 

[joscejrod]

There will be no changes to the RMB this year.

It is a niche product, and with Apple about to revamp the Pro and the Air they will have no time and no need to focus on a product that essentially was not even well in stock in Apple stores until August.

BJ

Revamp the pro (very possible but not sure), revamp the air (nope). The air is going to disappear. New macbook with skylake is going to be released soon.

 

[boltjames]

Revamp the pro (very possible but not sure), revamp the air (nope). The air is going to disappear. New macbook with skylake is going to be released soon.

Pro: Must be updated, it's way too old and it hasn't given Apple a market share boost in a crowded marketplace.

Air: Must survive, it's Apple's most profitable notebook, it's form factor is still relevant, and it's the go-to for IT managers in scores of corporations whose junior and senior exec's want a Mac.

RMB: Still very new, still years ahead of its time, it's selling quite well, there is no rush or need to touch it until the Pro and Air have had their very important moment.

Pay attention to the stock market and pay attention to shareholder value, you'll have a better understanding of why the RMB is the lowest priority for Apple right now. A year ago to this day, Apple was trading at $130 a share. Today it's $96. That's a -26% drop. That's staggering. That's speculators deciding that the salad days of Apple are gone and growth is going to slow.

The iPhone isn't going to turn the company around any more, the Watch is ho-hum, TV lacks studio support, iPad is saturated. Notebooks can turn speculator perception around very quickly if Apple creates a compelling Pro and Air revision that makes people need to throw their old versions out and get new ones.

BJ

 

[joscejrod]

Pro: Must be updated, it's way too old and it hasn't given Apple a market share boost in a crowded marketplace.

Air: Must survive, it's Apple's most profitable notebook, it's form factor is still relevant, and it's the go-to for IT managers in scores of corporations whose junior and senior exec's want a Mac.

RMB: Still very new, still years ahead of its time, it's selling quite well, there is no rush or need to touch it until the Pro and Air have had their very important moment.

Pay attention to the stock market and pay attention to shareholder value, you'll have a better understanding of why the RMB is the lowest priority for Apple right now. A year ago to this day, Apple was trading at $130 a share. Today it's $96. That's a -26% drop. That's staggering. That's speculators deciding that the salad days of Apple are gone and growth is going to slow.

The iPhone isn't going to turn the company around any more, the Watch is ho-hum, TV lacks studio support, iPad is saturated. Notebooks can turn speculator perception around very quickly if Apple creates a compelling Pro and Air revision that makes people need to throw their old versions out and get new ones.

BJ

My words were not a supposition. Skylake 12" Macbook is going to be released very soon (other screens are under works but the release is not sure)...

 

[Dave245]

I keep seeing different rumours at the moment, I've noticed that some sites (such as this one :http://www.ecumenicalnews.com/artic...led-display-to-be-revealed-in-march/39022.htm) are saying the Macbook Pro will come with a redesign and an OLED Display along with 4K, this seems a little far fetched to me, but i suppose it's possible considering there is a 4K and 5K iMac's.

 

[osnola ibax]

I keep seeing different rumours at the moment, I've noticed that some sites (such as this one :http://www.ecumenicalnews.com/artic...led-display-to-be-revealed-in-march/39022.htm) are saying the Macbook Pro will come with a redesign and an OLED Display along with 4K, this seems a little far fetched to me, but i suppose it's possible considering there is a 4K and 5K iMac's.

 

[boltjames]

My words were not a supposition. Skylake 12" Macbook is going to be released very soon (other screens are under works but the release is not sure)...

Neither were mine, MacBook will be updated but August at the earliest, more likely a year from now in March 2017.

BJ