Will the public beta program always be so closed?

Discussion in 'iOS 9' started by XTheLancerX, Jun 11, 2015.

  1. XTheLancerX macrumors 68000

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    I "Signed Up" and "Enrolled" in the iOS Public Beta Program and of course, I still don't have access to the "public" beta. Wasn't exactly expecting to get into the program as it's long been discovered that only select users who were involved in the OS X Public Beta Program have access to the iOS program. However, will this change in July? I sort of want access to the public beta because I want to get a taste for things before the final release, that way I can downgrade if I so desire. Also, I am quite a nit-picky person and would file many bugs as well, haha. Just seems interesting to be involved in the program on top of it all. I know what I would be getting myself into, so I wouldn't install it on my daily driver (iPhone 6) unless I see no huge show stoppers on my secondary device.

    Really hoping for things to open up with the iOS 9 public beta.. Could this happen or will things remain limited to the very first OS X Public a Beta members?
     
  2. batting1000 macrumors 604

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    You should get in come July when the iOS 9 public beta begins. They were probably just testing it with iOS 8.3 so they didn't allow many people in. I"m sure they'll expand the program's capacity for iOS 9.
     
  3. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    We'll see how it goes when they start the iOS 9 public beta. Hopefully they'll expand it (compared to what it has been like so far).
     
  4. XTheLancerX thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Let's hope so. I really am wanting to try out iOS 9 before I'm forced into staying with it permanently.
     
  5. theonekcrow macrumors 6502a

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    This is why I'm thinking. For 8.3 and 8.4, I think they picked at random from the people who sent in feedback from the OS X public beta last summer. (I was one of those lucky people.) I think they will widen the gates some more in July. Perhaps to a million or so users, as they did with Yosemite.
     
  6. lagwagon Suspended

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    They gave access to some people when they opened up public iOS beta back with 8.3. They haven't handed out access to more people since that initial batch. (Yosemite public beta last summer was roughly 1million people and it was rumoured that they chose roughly 100k of those when 8.3 opened up)

    They will for sure hand out access to more people in July. (Since in the WWDC keynote they told people to sign up on both OS X and iOS)

    Good luck!
    (I was lucky enough to get in when they opened it with 8.3)
     
  7. HeyKatie macrumors 6502

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    How do you sign up on both? Just do one from the comp and one from iPhone/iPad?
     
  8. batting1000 macrumors 604

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    Doesn't matter where you do it from. Signs you up for both at the same time.
     
  9. theonekcrow macrumors 6502a

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    Beta.apple.com is the URL.
     
  10. lchlch macrumors 6502a

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    I don't see the point in opening up the public beta to too many people. After all there is no need to stress test the os.
     
  11. lsutigerfan1976 macrumors 68000

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    I would say Google is your friend if all you want is to try and see what iOS 9 is about. Pretty simple to get your hands on the software.
     
  12. Abazigal macrumors 604

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    Because a beta is by definition buggy and can cause problems to your device, I would argue that all the more it shouldn't be made too accessible. Last thing you want is some non-tech savvy user downloading the beta to try out, thinking that he or she will be able to access the latest software this way, then complain about it affect his phone's performance.

    All I can say is "Once bitten twice shy". I tried out the ios 7 beta when it was first released and it somehow broke compatibility with my Mailbox app (not even rolling back to iOS 6 fixed it), which led to months of inconvenience (it would ding repeatedly for each incoming mail) until iOS 7 was finally released and the company could release a fix.
     
  13. AngusW macrumors 6502

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    I think this time around it will be a bit more open. After the press event when I logged in I had to accept the terms of service all over again. Also now I am seeing information about the public beta for iOS 9. When they released the one for iOS 8.3 I've never seen any hint of an iOS beta on the website so with that little yeah I think it's been much more expanded upon this time. I'm hoping that beta will fix some of the issues in the developers' beta that's out.
     
  14. Delta-NC macrumors member

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    No you can't. While there may be ways to do this there is no guarantee that "downgrading" will work. Once you install iOS 9 beta the intention is that that device is now and iOS 9 device and there is no going back. It's misunderstandings like this that are the reason beta versions are usually limited to developers who should be using iOS 9 only on devices they are testing on and that are not relied upon for daily use.
     
  15. AngusW macrumors 6502

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    Delta-NC you can downgrade so long as the previous iOS is still being signed. It's a pain to do, but it is possible to go back but you only have about a two week period in which to do it.
     
  16. batting1000 macrumors 604

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    I wouldn't really call it a pain. Once you download the software file, it's smooth sailing from there. You'll have more than a two week period because iOS 8.3 will still be signed until a little while after iOS 9 is released to the public in September.
     
  17. metsjetsfan macrumors 65816

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    What about icloud. Any new apis or infrastructure as a result of ios9
     
  18. theonekcrow macrumors 6502a

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    They give instructions on the public beta website on how to downgrade.
     

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    I stand corrected! Though I am fairly sure Apple stated this was not "possible" elsewhere.
     
  20. theonekcrow macrumors 6502a

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    They say you can't downgrade. However, you can if you do it a specific way... And you can only downgrade to a version currently being signed (e.g. iOS 8.3 right now)
     

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