Will the public beta program always be so closed?

XTheLancerX

macrumors 68000
Original poster
Aug 20, 2014
1,908
782
NY, USA
I "Signed Up" and "Enrolled" in the iOS Public Beta Program and of course, I still don't have access to the "public" beta. Wasn't exactly expecting to get into the program as it's long been discovered that only select users who were involved in the OS X Public Beta Program have access to the iOS program. However, will this change in July? I sort of want access to the public beta because I want to get a taste for things before the final release, that way I can downgrade if I so desire. Also, I am quite a nit-picky person and would file many bugs as well, haha. Just seems interesting to be involved in the program on top of it all. I know what I would be getting myself into, so I wouldn't install it on my daily driver (iPhone 6) unless I see no huge show stoppers on my secondary device.

Really hoping for things to open up with the iOS 9 public beta.. Could this happen or will things remain limited to the very first OS X Public a Beta members?
 

batting1000

macrumors 604
Sep 4, 2011
7,246
1,440
Florida
You should get in come July when the iOS 9 public beta begins. They were probably just testing it with iOS 8.3 so they didn't allow many people in. I"m sure they'll expand the program's capacity for iOS 9.
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
48,549
17,194
We'll see how it goes when they start the iOS 9 public beta. Hopefully they'll expand it (compared to what it has been like so far).
 

XTheLancerX

macrumors 68000
Original poster
Aug 20, 2014
1,908
782
NY, USA
Let's hope so. I really am wanting to try out iOS 9 before I'm forced into staying with it permanently.
 

theonekcrow

macrumors 6502a
Jul 12, 2009
797
94
Indiana
You should get in come July when the iOS 9 public beta begins. They were probably just testing it with iOS 8.3 so they didn't allow many people in. I"m sure they'll expand the program's capacity for iOS 9.
This is why I'm thinking. For 8.3 and 8.4, I think they picked at random from the people who sent in feedback from the OS X public beta last summer. (I was one of those lucky people.) I think they will widen the gates some more in July. Perhaps to a million or so users, as they did with Yosemite.
 

lagwagon

Suspended
Oct 12, 2014
3,899
2,759
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
They gave access to some people when they opened up public iOS beta back with 8.3. They haven't handed out access to more people since that initial batch. (Yosemite public beta last summer was roughly 1million people and it was rumoured that they chose roughly 100k of those when 8.3 opened up)

They will for sure hand out access to more people in July. (Since in the WWDC keynote they told people to sign up on both OS X and iOS)

Good luck!
(I was lucky enough to get in when they opened it with 8.3)
 

lchlch

macrumors 6502a
Mar 12, 2015
503
153
I don't see the point in opening up the public beta to too many people. After all there is no need to stress test the os.
 

lsutigerfan1976

macrumors 68030
Sep 14, 2012
2,566
1,559
I "Signed Up" and "Enrolled" in the iOS Public Beta Program and of course, I still don't have access to the "public" beta. Wasn't exactly expecting to get into the program as it's long been discovered that only select users who were involved in the OS X Public Beta Program have access to the iOS program. However, will this change in July? I sort of want access to the public beta because I want to get a taste for things before the final release, that way I can downgrade if I so desire. Also, I am quite a nit-picky person and would file many bugs as well, haha. Just seems interesting to be involved in the program on top of it all. I know what I would be getting myself into, so I wouldn't install it on my daily driver (iPhone 6) unless I see no huge show stoppers on my secondary device.

Really hoping for things to open up with the iOS 9 public beta.. Could this happen or will things remain limited to the very first OS X Public a Beta members?
I would say Google is your friend if all you want is to try and see what iOS 9 is about. Pretty simple to get your hands on the software.
 

Abazigal

macrumors G5
Jul 18, 2011
12,816
10,851
Singapore
I don't see the point in opening up the public beta to too many people. After all there is no need to stress test the os.
Because a beta is by definition buggy and can cause problems to your device, I would argue that all the more it shouldn't be made too accessible. Last thing you want is some non-tech savvy user downloading the beta to try out, thinking that he or she will be able to access the latest software this way, then complain about it affect his phone's performance.

All I can say is "Once bitten twice shy". I tried out the ios 7 beta when it was first released and it somehow broke compatibility with my Mailbox app (not even rolling back to iOS 6 fixed it), which led to months of inconvenience (it would ding repeatedly for each incoming mail) until iOS 7 was finally released and the company could release a fix.
 

AngusW

macrumors 6502
Jun 19, 2013
406
36
I think this time around it will be a bit more open. After the press event when I logged in I had to accept the terms of service all over again. Also now I am seeing information about the public beta for iOS 9. When they released the one for iOS 8.3 I've never seen any hint of an iOS beta on the website so with that little yeah I think it's been much more expanded upon this time. I'm hoping that beta will fix some of the issues in the developers' beta that's out.
 

Delta-NC

macrumors regular
Apr 22, 2008
103
13
Scotland, European Union
However, will this change in July? I sort of want access to the public beta because I want to get a taste for things before the final release, that way I can downgrade if I so desire.
No you can't. While there may be ways to do this there is no guarantee that "downgrading" will work. Once you install iOS 9 beta the intention is that that device is now and iOS 9 device and there is no going back. It's misunderstandings like this that are the reason beta versions are usually limited to developers who should be using iOS 9 only on devices they are testing on and that are not relied upon for daily use.
 

AngusW

macrumors 6502
Jun 19, 2013
406
36
Delta-NC you can downgrade so long as the previous iOS is still being signed. It's a pain to do, but it is possible to go back but you only have about a two week period in which to do it.
 

batting1000

macrumors 604
Sep 4, 2011
7,246
1,440
Florida
Delta-NC you can downgrade so long as the previous iOS is still being signed. It's a pain to do, but it is possible to go back but you only have about a two week period in which to do it.
I wouldn't really call it a pain. Once you download the software file, it's smooth sailing from there. You'll have more than a two week period because iOS 8.3 will still be signed until a little while after iOS 9 is released to the public in September.
 

theonekcrow

macrumors 6502a
Jul 12, 2009
797
94
Indiana
No you can't. While there may be ways to do this there is no guarantee that "downgrading" will work. Once you install iOS 9 beta the intention is that that device is now and iOS 9 device and there is no going back. It's misunderstandings like this that are the reason beta versions are usually limited to developers who should be using iOS 9 only on devices they are testing on and that are not relied upon for daily use.
They give instructions on the public beta website on how to downgrade.
 

Attachments

theonekcrow

macrumors 6502a
Jul 12, 2009
797
94
Indiana
I stand corrected! Though I am fairly sure Apple stated this was not "possible" elsewhere.
They say you can't downgrade. However, you can if you do it a specific way... And you can only downgrade to a version currently being signed (e.g. iOS 8.3 right now)
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.