Will the Retina Macbook Pro last a long time

[knarzie]

I agree. I also used a Unibody 2008 MacBook (only aluminium MacBook, so rare haha) and it still works perfectly fine. There is nothing wrong with 1st gen Apple products. The rMBP isn't really that "new". It is based on the classic unibody design with a MUCH better display and a thinner profile.

I bought the same one and was pissed that they brought back FireWire and added the card slot a few months down the line. Also, I took out the original 2GB RAM (how are their basic models always under specced?) and put in 8 gig a year ago, while I had it open for a bigger hdd.

 

[calderone]

tell that to all the suckers who bought the first gen mac air.

The difference is that the first MacBook Air was vastly more limited. PATA, 2GB, etc. Was it a bad buy? Absolutely. Does the MacBook Pro with Retina Display compare? Absolutely not, it is a far better hardware offering and is on par with the extant MacBook Pro.

 

[beamer8912]

If you need one, no matter how long it will last, who care as long as you have Apple care. You will have it as least 3 years. Nothing will last forever. It is natural things of nature. You may not be last for tmr. We all are going to die and don't know when. Wait for the next year? Maybe you will not have that chance. Who know? Who can guarantee that you will live through the next year?

I'm pretty much on par with this. We know the rMBP matches the cMBP spec for spec. It's not crippled power-wise like the old MBAs were. The retina is a powerful beast, with a great screen. It has a couple flaws but I think all machines will.

 

[ixodes]

I definitely agree that the MBA saw a good upgrade from the first to second generation.

But I don't think we'll see quite as distinct a difference with the rMBP. I say this because the rMBP isn't that different from Apple's previous laptops. It's really only a thinner cMBP minus the ODD and ethernet, and has a nicer screen.

Actually the new MBPr is 100% different on the inside, components etc.

Nothing is the same, if it were, Apple would not have declared it an all new MBP. None of these components are in the old MBP, this new MacBook Pro Retina is an engineering marvel.

Here are pictures of the all new, thinner and radically designed logic board, and a picture of all the internals as seen with one half of the case removed. It simply doesn't get any more radically different than this.

If any of these components fail, or become problematic in the first years use, Apple will correct that on the next version. This is most certainly a version 1.0 product. And _again_ I am _NOT_ being critical, simply identifying what you see here.

The second generation will be the benefactor of all Apple has learned after the first year in the hands of users, and their engineers, with it being used under real world conditions. There is only so much that beta testing reveals. The other bugs and annoyances are what appears only after it's in use in the field.

I am not making these claims to upset people, or to stir something up, I make them because they are true. I have personally experienced first year models, and wish to help others avoid the inevitable. The bottom line truth is you get a much better version the second year.

 

[maflynn]

Will this last me for a good 3 - 4 years?

I hope so, because that's my goal as well

I think if you're looking to get 3 to 4 years you should be fine. I'm not concerned at all. I'll probably pick up applecare to carry me through years 2 and 3. All bets are off once I'm in year 3 whether I choose to keep it upgrade.

 

[beamer8912]

Actually the new MBPr is 100% different on the inside, components etc.

Nothing is the same, if it were, Apple would not have declared it an all new MBP. None of these components are in the old MBP, this new MacBook Pro Retina is an engineering marvel.

Here are pictures of the all new, thinner and radically designed logic board, and a picture of all the internals as seen with one half of the case removed. It simply doesn't get any more radically different than this.

If any of these components fail, or become problematic in the first years use, Apple will correct that on the next version. This is most certainly a version 1.0 product. And _again_ I am _NOT_ being critical, simply identifying what you see here.

The second generation will be the benefactor of all Apple has learned after the first year in the hands of users, and their engineers, with it being used under real world conditions. There is only so much that beta testing reveals. The other bugs and annoyances are what appears only after it's in use in the field.

I am not making these claims to upset people, or to stir something up, I make them because they are true. I have personally experienced first year models, and wish to help others avoid the inevitable. The bottom line truth is you get a much better version the second year.

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I think you've fallen victim of Apple's PR just a little. Terms like "radically" are words to get your motor running and get you excited about the new product.

You talk about component failures, have there been any consistently reported as a bad component? The only one I've heard of are the screens, and Apple can't do much about those. Samsung and LG are the primary providers of those.

What "fixes" do you predict? In what ways will the revision improve so drastically on the first one that it can be dubbed as "much better"?

I'm just wondering what your thinking process is, because the way I see next generation's retina is as a spec bump (processors, graphics), a software fix for the "lag" on the retina screen and a price drop. The price drop always comes with Rev A vs Rev B, but if my theory holds true then "much better" would embellish that upgrade, just a bit.

edit: To expand upon this, I talked about your example, the MBA, a discussed how it was a different situation entirely from the rMBP. The MBA was lacking in a lot of feature areas, not many component areas. The retina seems to be doing well in both. I'm curious as to what areas Apple can so drastically improve upon the rMBP. Otherwise, it seems like your opinion is based on "if" components fail, and theres a large, nagging problem with the design. Such a problem hasn't really popped up yet.

 

[retinarob]

Actually the new MBPr is 100% different on the inside, components etc.

Nothing is the same, if it were, Apple would not have declared it an all new MBP. None of these components are in the old MBP, this new MacBook Pro Retina is an engineering marvel.

Here are pictures of the all new, thinner and radically designed logic board, and a picture of all the internals as seen with one half of the case removed. It simply doesn't get any more radically different than this.

If any of these components fail, or become problematic in the first years use, Apple will correct that on the next version. This is most certainly a version 1.0 product. And _again_ I am _NOT_ being critical, simply identifying what you see here.

The second generation will be the benefactor of all Apple has learned after the first year in the hands of users, and their engineers, with it being used under real world conditions. There is only so much that beta testing reveals. The other bugs and annoyances are what appears only after it's in use in the field.

I am not making these claims to upset people, or to stir something up, I make them because they are true. I have personally experienced first year models, and wish to help others avoid the inevitable. The bottom line truth is you get a much better version the second year.

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Yeah ok, but you're wrong.

 

[AZREOSpecialist]

tell that to all the suckers who bought the first gen mac air.

Your use of the term "suckers" to describe a group of people whom, according to you, have been plagued with problems by purchasing a first generation product makes you sound like kind of a jerk, doesn't it? You seem to have a lot of negative things to say, but nothing of any substance to contribute.