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Will there be a Beta 7 today ?

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Playing devils advocate here. It might make since from a staffing perspective for the stores to have heads up since they provide support to devs too. That said, j still think another beta is unlikely, too close to the GM release now.
 
I can't remember or not if I've already posted on this thread so I'm going to presume I haven't as there are tons of threads on Beta 7.

I can't understand how people think there will be NO more beta's.

Wait until late on Tuesday. If we don't have Beta 7 by then, it's safe to presume there will be no more beta's.

We still have Monday and Tuesday yet.

I'm pretty sure we will get Beta 7.
 
I love how all of a sudden RETAIL employees have become "experts" because they can download the betas just like the actual experts. LOL. If they had a developer's brain, they wouldn't be working in a friggin retail store, lol

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ionjohn said:
No you don't.
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Precisely. Apple retail employees\managers famous line is "We don't know when we're getting a new product until we open the box and see it" ... it's always been that way, and always will be. Retail in any company is the lowest men on the totem pole, and will NEVER EVER be privy to any sensitive information before the general public. Period. It's like if McDonalds is developing a new recipe, do you think they're going to share those plans with the guy working in the restaurant frying the fries? It's funny how Apple retail employees have a sense of empowerment when they can't take a dump without asking their manager. LOL!
 
ionjohn said:
No you don't.
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Im glad you think I don't. Once again, Im not here to prove myself to you or anyone else. Think what you want.

As far as everyone else is concerned, Beta 7 will be released to developers this Tuesday 8-27-13 @ 1:00 pm EDT. This will be the final Beta before the GM is released.

@shenan1982 - I find it hilarious that you compare Apple to McDonalds with regards to Retail. Apple's Retail business and the way we run our operations is very different that your typical retail environment. Granted, most of my employees are not privy to any information about product releases or services any earlier than the public besides a couple of days for training purposes, but I will assure you that Store Leaders and above ARE included in weekly emails and monthly meetings about products, services, etc ahead of time for proper planning, staffing, marketing, etc.

@Tmelon - A new beta for Developers does not affect Store Leaders as we generally don't discuss or service beta products or assist with issues with regards to betas. However, we are aware of these updates ahead of time as we generally get calls/questions about the product. Most Leaders won't publicly discuss this as there is really no need to, but this is the policy current set forth within the CoC.
 
I'd say if there isn't one by Tuesday then don't expect one till release on September 10.

Nothing has been consistent since the development center outtage
 
BuCkDoG said:
Im glad you think I don't. Once again, Im not here to prove myself to you or anyone else. Think what you want.

As far as everyone else is concerned, Beta 7 will be released to developers this Tuesday 8-27-13 @ 1:00 pm EDT. This will be the final Beta before the GM is released.

@shenan1982 - I find it hilarious that you compare Apple to McDonalds with regards to Retail. Apple's Retail business and the way we run our operations is very different that your typical retail environment. Granted, most of my employees are not privy to any information about product releases or services any earlier than the public besides a couple of days for training purposes, but I will assure you that Store Leaders and above ARE included in weekly emails and monthly meetings about products, services, etc ahead of time for proper planning, staffing, marketing, etc.

@Tmelon - A new beta for Developers does not affect Store Leaders as we generally don't discuss or service beta products or assist with issues with regards to betas. However, we are aware of these updates ahead of time as we generally get calls/questions about the product. Most Leaders won't publicly discuss this as there is really no need to, but this is the policy current set forth within the CoC.
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I definately agree with you and I think that's the normal structure of any Corporate business. Every business with a product wants to wow the consumer. And if we know everything about it and it takes the wow factor. Apple employees are consumers too.
 
BuCkDoG said:
I work at Apple. I tend to know these things beforehand.
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Just by saying that you work there, don't expect people to believe it. I could say I work for Lamborghini and be true and people might not believe it.

I'm also not saying that you're lying, but I'll wait to see what's coming up this week to check that out.
 
JetBlack7 said:
Just by saying that you work there, don't expect people to believe it. I could say I work for Lamborghini and be true and people might not believe it.

I'm also not saying that you're lying, but I'll wait to see what's coming up this week to check that out.
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I worked there for years during college. I know that there were closed door meetings on a weekly basis that no one fully understood. There was also trips for regional managers where rough roadmap of things would be discussed.

Apple Retail is unlike anything you may have experienced in retail. It's not glamorous, but you'd be surprised at what happens in stores.
 
BuCkDoG said:
Your assumption that I don't work at Apple is because of my products listed in my signature? Now thats very interesting.. Just because I work at Apple doesn't mean I have to own every single product and the latest version of it. Our discounts are not that amazing, plus I don't need to own every single updated product. But just to clarify, I did use my one bi yearly discount on my Retina MacBook Pro to save a whopping 40%.

@SMIDG3T - I honestly don't care if you believe me or not. I'm not here to prove to you or anyone else that I work at Apple. Its really not a big deal. What kind of Value do I get out of it by lying to you?...... None. But to answer your question, I am a Store Leader in the New England Area.
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So working in retail makes you privy to inside developer knowledge at Apple HQ? Riiigggghhhhtttt.
 
vigilant said:
I worked there for years during college. I know that there were closed door meetings on a weekly basis that no one fully understood. There was also trips for regional managers where rough roadmap of things would be discussed.

Apple Retail is unlike anything you may have experienced in retail. It's not glamorous, but you'd be surprised at what happens in stores.
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Apple retail is not what it was 10 years ago when you likely worked there. Back then it was entrepreneurial and now it's as with any other retail.
 
BuCkDoG said:
Im glad you think I don't. Once again, Im not here to prove myself to you or anyone else. Think what you want.

As far as everyone else is concerned, Beta 7 will be released to developers this Tuesday 8-27-13 @ 1:00 pm EDT. This will be the final Beta before the GM is released.

@shenan1982 - I find it hilarious that you compare Apple to McDonalds with regards to Retail. Apple's Retail business and the way we run our operations is very different that your typical retail environment. Granted, most of my employees are not privy to any information about product releases or services any earlier than the public besides a couple of days for training purposes, but I will assure you that Store Leaders and above ARE included in weekly emails and monthly meetings about products, services, etc ahead of time for proper planning, staffing, marketing, etc.

@Tmelon - A new beta for Developers does not affect Store Leaders as we generally don't discuss or service beta products or assist with issues with regards to betas. However, we are aware of these updates ahead of time as we generally get calls/questions about the product. Most Leaders won't publicly discuss this as there is really no need to, but this is the policy current set forth within the CoC.
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We'll make sure you get a ban if beta 7 isn't out by tuesday 1pm EST
 
shenan1982 said:
Apple retail is not what it was 10 years ago when you likely worked there. Back then it was entrepreneurial and now it's as with any other retail.
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It is and it isn't.

I know several people that still work there several of them now running stores.

The "Mac Specialists" role seems to not be what it use to be. The management and handling of getting people up and running on new things doesn't seem that different.

I don't know anything specifically but I'd imagine with release dates what we are expecting, allocations are probably being taken out of inventory to get one or two. "Training devices" setup for employees. I'd imagine that probably certain leads have been given access to builds as well.
 
ionjohn said:
We'll make sure you get a ban if beta 7 isn't out by tuesday 1pm EST
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I think your missing the point within this entire discussion. Going back to my original post, I commented saying that from reliable sources, I was told that Beta 7 was going to be released this Tuesday @ 1:00 pm EDT. I am not going on record stating that its 100% going to happen, but from what I was told, this is indeed the release date of it. I'm flattered at your response though. It just shows your immaturity.
 
Jeez. Retail managers being giving insight to future campaigns, products and initiatives is not unique to Apple. It happens at every major retailer, just no other is as obsessed over or scrutinised as Apple.
 
haydn! said:
Jeez. Retail managers being giving insight to future campaigns, products and initiatives is not unique to Apple. It happens at every major retailer, just no other is as obsessed over or scrutinised as Apple.
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But beta schedules don't affect the operation of a store and therefore it'd be pointless for a manager to receive such information. Apple has seeded the betas to select store employees though.

http://9to5mac.com/2013/06/18/apple...etail-ios-7-to-cupertino-locals-for-feedback/
 
BuCkDoG said:
Im glad you think I don't. Once again, Im not here to prove myself to you or anyone else. Think what you want.

As far as everyone else is concerned, Beta 7 will be released to developers this Tuesday 8-27-13 @ 1:00 pm EDT. This will be the final Beta before the GM is released.

@shenan1982 - I find it hilarious that you compare Apple to McDonalds with regards to Retail. Apple's Retail business and the way we run our operations is very different that your typical retail environment. Granted, most of my employees are not privy to any information about product releases or services any earlier than the public besides a couple of days for training purposes, but I will assure you that Store Leaders and above ARE included in weekly emails and monthly meetings about products, services, etc ahead of time for proper planning, staffing, marketing, etc.

@Tmelon - A new beta for Developers does not affect Store Leaders as we generally don't discuss or service beta products or assist with issues with regards to betas. However, we are aware of these updates ahead of time as we generally get calls/questions about the product. Most Leaders won't publicly discuss this as there is really no need to, but this is the policy current set forth within the CoC.
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This is interesting stuff. I certainly hope you're right about beta 7. I really think we need one more before the GM.
 
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