Will there be another 32” Apple Display this year?

[enc0re]

This is a selfish thread. I had firmly planned to order Apple’s new display when it came out. My only requirements were 32” (or greater) and a built-in webcam. I was willing to pay $6,000 if necessary. Assuming of course that the higher the price, the better the display.

Now they have finally released two new displays and they are both 27”. Grrrrrr. I’m genuinely considering getting the Studio Display XDR tomorrow. It has everything I want at an acceptable price except that it is considerably too small for my taste.

My big worry: what if Apple releases a 32” later this year. So… do we know anything about the chances for a 32”? And if not, what is the wisdom of the crowd here? Vote whether you think Apple will release a 32” or greater display this year.

 

[just!ns]

If they did release a new 32" with 120hz I'd be scared to see its price based on the 27" 120hz model that was released today.

 

[T'hain Esh Kelch]

Why not buy an actual 6k 32” display? Why does it have to have an Apple logo?

 

[just!ns]

I'm curious as to when Samsung plans on releasing their G90XH 32" 6K offering ... since the tech exists for 120+Hz (165Hz in the G90XH's case) then maybe Apple has something 32" planned to go along side the upcoming Mac Studio release in June. I'm guessing the G90XH will have a premium price point though.

 

[citivolus]

My big worry: what if Apple releases a 32” later this year. So… do we know anything about the chances for a 32”? And if not, what is the wisdom of the crowd here? Vote whether you think Apple will release a 32” or greater display this year.

why would they? What would be the point of spreading out the announcements? The two displays serve different markets. Also they wouldn’t have deprecated the Pro Display XDR if they had a replacement model waiting in the wings…

 

[theorist9]

Why not buy an actual 6k 32” display? Why does it have to have an Apple logo?

The problem with every 6k 32" display on the market, other than Apple's, is that they are available with a matte screen only.

For those of us who work with text, matte screens introduce some blur, and also create a distracting "sparkling snowfield" effect with the white backgrounds one typically has with text documents.

 

[formerapplefan]

Why not buy an actual 6k 32” display? Why does it have to have an Apple logo?

I have been looking at all the 6k displays that have been released and they all have big drawbacks. In addition to the matte displays that rob you from the resolution that you are paying for, they have uneven backlighting sometimes with colour casts in different parts of the screen. Other drawbacks depending on the model are pretty poor construction, external power supplies, fans, huge sample variance.

It always bugs me when people say that you are just paying for the Apple logo and you can get the same thing for less. It is never the same thing.

 

[ascender]

I can't see them doing it, I think this is the new (Pro Display) XDR and the only drawback is the size.

I can see why they've gone for a 27" this time round and I'm guessing sales of the old one won't have been enough for them to justify it.

It seems like the world of computing has agreed that 27" screens are the best size for most people and the next option most people (consumers or businesses) do if they need more space is buy a second one rather than a bigger one.

There's a whole other world out there for those of us who want larger, wider and different specs of displays, but that's not what Apple do unfortunately.

 

[xraydoc]

For productivity, I'd love a less expensive 32" 6K Apple display (like a non-XDR 32"), but if Apple was going to do it, I believe they would have announced it at the same time as the new Studio Displays and at the same time they discontinued the 32" XDR. So, unfortunately, I don't think it's going to happen.

 

[Pezimak]

No, the 32” Apple monitor is dead. Look elsewhere if you want one.

 

[Dark-Signature]

The problem with every 6k 32" display on the market, other than Apple's, is that they are available with a matte screen only.

For those of us who work with text, matte screens introduce some blur, and also create a distracting "sparkling snowfield" effect with the white backgrounds one typically has with text documents.

That's why most of us who want to work with 6K on 32" and love glossy bought the Kuycon G32P. Take a look around the forum. The Kuycon G32P is a great monitor!

 

[blairh]

For productivity, I'd love a less expensive 32" 6K Apple display (like a non-XDR 32"), but if Apple was going to do it, I believe they would have announced it at the same time as the new Studio Displays and at the same time they discontinued the 32" XDR. So, unfortunately, I don't think it's going to happen.

Totally agree. Should have just made a 32” Studio Display. What a shame.

 

[theorist9]

That's why most of us who want to work with 6K on 32" and love glossy bought the Kuycon G32P. Take a look around the forum. The Kuycon G32P is a great monitor!

Thanks for letting me know about that! I was not aware that Kuycon offered a glossy option.

One of the great things about the Apple glossy monitors is the quality of their AR coatings--even though the monitors are glossy, their AR coating does an excellent job of reducing reflections while, AFAICT, not impacting sharpness.

Is the AR coating on the Kuycon as good? Have you had a chance to compare the two directly?

 

[turbineseaplane]

Nyet.

I think they've determined the juice isn't worth the squeeze on >27" Apple monitors.

 

[Dark-Signature]

Is the AR coating on the Kuycon as good? Have you had a chance to compare the two directly?

Unfortunately, the AR coating on the Kuycon G32P is not quite as good as on Apple's Studio Display 1st Gen, for example. If it were on the same level, one would have to ask why Apple charges 3-4 times the price for an XDR in comparison to a Kuycon G32P.

BUT you get used to the AR coating on the Kuycon G32P, and the advantages of the glossy screen definitely outweigh this. A few weeks ago, I also looked at the LG in 6K (which has a matte coating) at a company and once again felt confirmed in my decision to prefer the glossy coating. I would be annoyed every day if I had a matte screen in front of my eyes, because the glitter effect and the foggy shadow over the entire image are just awful. Sure, you can work around it, but it's no fun when you know what complete clarity can look like 🙂

 

[theorist9]

Unfortunately, the AR coating on the Kuycon G32P is not quite as good as on Apple's Studio Display 1st Gen, for example.

Thanks!

How would you characterize the difference?

Is it somewhat less effective at dealing with reflections? Or does it somewhat compromise text sharpness/clarity compared to Apple's (e.g., does it seem less transparent/more noticeable)?

If it were on the same level, one would have to ask why Apple charges 3-4 times the price for an XDR in comparison to a Kuycon G32P.

Well, not that this entirely justifies the price difference, but the XDR has a native 10-bit panel. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I assume the Kuycon's is not. Also, the Apple display has more brightness, and should have much better quality control. [IIRC, Kuycon's used to be terrible on some of their other monitors; not sure how much that's improved with this display.]

And you get local US support. If there's an issue, you can just bring it to an Apple Store instead of having to ship it back to Kucyon.

 

[Dark-Signature]

Thanks!

How would you characterize the difference?

Is it somewhat less effective at dealing with reflections? Or does it somewhat compromise text sharpness/clarity compared to Apple's (e.g., does it seem less transparent/more noticeable)?

Well, not that this entirely justifies the price difference, but the XDR has a native 10-bit panel. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I assume the Kuycon's is not. Also, the Apple display has more brightness, and should have much better quality control. [IIRC, Kuycon's used to be terrible on some of their other monitors; not sure how much that's improved with this display.]

And you get local US support. If there's an issue, you can just bring it to an Apple Store instead of having to ship it back to Kucyon.

I would recommend that you simply look through the Kuycon G32P thread. There are lots of users there who also wanted a glossy monitor and asked questions similar to yours, and these were answered there in text and with pictures.

Kuycon G32P Thread on MacRumors

 

[Jrshelby]

I think, for a professional setting, most people would have a dual monitor setup. Just devils advocate thinking here. So most of us would rather have the 32" without a doubt. But I think apples strategy is to offer 2 different 27" that look similar to put side by side. I mean you could get one STD Studio Display and one XDR all for the price that is still less then one Pro XDR. I bet Apple thought long and hard about this approach. I think 2 monitor set ups are at least 50/50 in most professional settings. As for me personally, and probably because I'm so use to it, 27" does not bother me one bit. I have the 2022 Studio Display with the New XDR on the way and I view it as a giant leap forward for me. Keep in mind I've had at least 4 iMac 27" before so maybe just feels at home for me. I really think a 8K 32" display would be the replacement if apple feels it need to fill that gap. But here is the problem. Obviously TB5, while perfect for a 27" 120 refresh rate, may be hard to accomplish with an 8K 32" display and still have the required bandwidth for drives, etc.

 

[Apple Knowledge Navigator]

I’m voting Yes, for the simple reason that there is no evidence for not replacing the PD-XDR.

We should also consider that there may have been technical limitations with bringing an updated version to market. Perhaps they wanted tandem OLED, or they’re working a new enclosure to keep the device cool.

The truth is, we just don’t know and that’s why I wouldn’t rule it out just because the SD-XDR is the latest “worlds best Pro Display”.

 

[BigJohno]

I’m voting Yes, for the simple reason that there is no evidence for not replacing the PD-XDR.

We should also consider that there may have been technical limitations with bringing an updated version to market. Perhaps they wanted tandem OLED, or they’re working a new enclosure to keep the device cool.

The truth is, we just don’t know and that’s why I wouldn’t rule it out just because the SD-XDR is the latest “worlds best Pro Display”.

I like that thinking. Makes me think of when the iMac Pro came out. Everyone was thinking, MP is dead and this is the way forward but really it was just a stopgap. Tech isn't progressing as fast as it did in the 2000's-10's. It seems display tech moves pretty slow. I personally don't want OLED for my desktop or even my Laptop. iPad is fine since it's a media consumption device. My laptop and desktop are so static. I'm a photographer and my toolbars sit on the screen for like 3-6hrs at a time without moving. mini Led is just fine. My guess is that this SD-XDR is a stop gap to a PD-XDR with high refresh. The tech might just not be there to drive a display like that at 6k 120. Apple likes to have at least 2-3 years of products that could utilize the power. Price doesn't really matter much to me as I use it to generate revenue so if it's 5-7k I can stomach that.

There's all this rumor that there is a m5/m6 extreme on the way and it would be cool for apple to come up with the next gen MP or Studio and combine with a new PD-XDR. One can dream

 

[Apple Knowledge Navigator]

Also, consider it’s highly unlikely that even Thunderbolt 5 could drive 6K resolution at 120hz.

 

[mindfulmonk]

TB5 should be fine, might need DSC at the top end:

• 6K 120Hz 8 bpc — 60.5 Gbps
• 6K 120Hz 10 bpc — 75.6 Gbps
• 6K 120Hz 12 bpc — 90.7 Gbps, requires DSC

I think even dual 6k 120hz with dsc can be squeezed into a single tb5.