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Why you think I came back to Apple? I no longer trust Google with their short attention spans to keep anything going. Soon as I get used to their apps the rug is pulled from under me once again. Forcing me to learn all over again.

At one point they broke a great messaging platform (Google Talk) to introduce another one doing the same thing (Hangouts) and then broke that and made THREE necessary to do the job of the previous that did all three in one (Allo, Duo, Android Messages)

Can't even count on them to keep Assistant going in the future. Alexa/Siri will outlive it no doubt.
 
Why you think I came back to Apple? I no longer trust Google with their short attention spans to keep anything going. Soon as I get used to their apps the rug is pulled from under me once again. Forcing me to learn all over again.

At one point they broke a great messaging platform (Google Talk) to introduce another one doing the same thing (Hangouts) and then broke that and made THREE necessary to do the job of the previous that did all three in one (Allo, Duo, Android Messages)
That and this also made me switch back:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomas...smartphones-in-unprecedented-geofence-search/
 
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In another way the Apple standing their ground in the San Bernardino case made me respect Apple far more. Google is all about selling data to the highest bidder. The writing was on the wall when I heard they were cooperating with the NSA in the Patriot Act fiasco. I've deGoogled all my Android devices remaining. You'd be surprised how deep Google Play Services goes in the OS. It's a huge privacy killer and battery killer too. Android back in version 2.3 wasn't half bad on a properly specced device and Google was optional then. No Play Services.
 
I’d buy an Apple made fitness tracker in a heart beat. i like the Apple watch, mostly the fitness part of it and their privacy angle, but I love mechanical watches more. And while the AW’s design is the best for a smart watch, it still looks too techy for me. It’s kind of hard to dress up.

I’ve been wearing a fitbit, and my various watches for a while, but now that they were sold to google, I’m considering an Apple watch again. So if Apple made a stylish band, I’d be all over it!
 
Fitbit made me a bit upset when they bought and killed Pebble. No different than the Google hostility if you ask me. I tried to use two Fitbits, a Charge and an Ionic and returned both because they were unstable, didn't connect half the time and didn't offer nearly the advertised battery life.

Sadly, unless they've actually fired Jony Ive (I heard he quit but that's not much more than a rumor) you won't see any round Apple Watches much less any neat 'skeuomorphic' watch faces anytime soon. But, since they have been backtracking the flat design ever so slightly in iOS, it's possible. A guy can dream!
 
In another way the Apple standing their ground in the San Bernardino case made me respect Apple far more. Google is all about selling data to the highest bidder. The writing was on the wall when I heard they were cooperating with the NSA in the Patriot Act fiasco. I've deGoogled all my Android devices remaining. You'd be surprised how deep Google Play Services goes in the OS. It's a huge privacy killer and battery killer too. Android back in version 2.3 wasn't half bad on a properly specced device and Google was optional then. No Play Services.
I will never use any Google products ever again or have them disgrace my phone in any capacity.
 
I will never use any Google products ever again or have them disgrace my phone in any capacity.

Look at the iPhone 'post your app layout' post. Cringe each time I see a app page full of Google crud.

I hated iOS 7's look so much that's why I was on Android for six long years. Mostly with older Samsungs as they kept the skeuo alive for two more years at least. I find myself missing 2009-10. I never have been a fan of flat UI (it's been done before like MS-DOS and early Nokia phones) so the sooner Apple brings the UI love back the better.
 
Yea, Garmin outsourcing their software development was a huge mistake. Their software has been horrible over the last 2 years.

I actually didn’t know they outsourced there watchOS. I just read/heard past reviews with Garmins always just being unreliable and glitchy. I think the hardware can only sell itself for so long before consumers realize the software takes away the experience. That’s why iOS is so favored and popular across the world, because it’s so fluid _and_ consistent. [And of course the security is a factor.]
 
I was looking for a thread discussing this exact topic. I would absolutely love to see Apple make something like that but like others have said, I doubt they will. I would immediately buy a Whoop-type fitness tracker designed by Apple that tracks all of the same metrics as the current watch, minus the screen and possibly cellular. Since getting into traditional mechanical watches, I no longer have a desire to wear the watch as an actual watch. I wear it mainly for a fitness and health tracker at the moment (don’t get me wrong, I love being able to answer calls and respond to texts and glance at notifications though). In order to do this and not wear two watches, I wear it on my upper arm using an armband. It works pretty good except it records too many stand minutes due to my arm being vertical most of the time. At a lower price point, I think it’d be a good idea for those fitness-minded individuals who just want a fitness tracker and not a smart watch. But I don’t see Apple making this in the future unfortunately.
 
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