the 5th generation touch isn't going to support iOS9
If by late spring / early summer, the Touch 5 is not discontinued or the Touch 6 is not released, IOS 9 will be supported on the Touch 5 this fall.
the 5th generation touch isn't going to support iOS9
If by late spring / early summer, the Touch 5 is not discontinued or the Touch 6 is not released, IOS 9 will be supported on the Touch 5 this fall.
iPod touch will be essential to businesses and apples b2b App Store.
in terms of inventory, retail, trade shows.
i've said this plenty of times before. they will sell as more business apps are made.
Why pay near $700 for an iPhone, in which you're not even going to use data.
When you can pay $200 dollars for an iPod touch? The dollar amount does add up, You're spending 500 extra dollars in expenses when you don't need to.
I've said this plenty of times, but some people have no idea about running a business. They say it doesn't matter and they should be able to afford it, but what company just intentionally wastes money on unneeded expenses? companies even fortune 500 companies try to cut expenses.
Anyhow, not to mention not every company is a fortune 500 company. Yes some companies/businesses can afford wasting the money to get an iPhone, others can't.
If they drop the iPod touch, business would be only getting 2 devices where as if they don't drop it they'd get 8.
the biggest issue with the iPod Touch is that its antique specs. 512 GB of ram? a very old processor? it makes running memory intensive apps on the iPod near impossible. with iOS 8 Apps crash at the 200GB mark.
Partly because something weren't coded right, but its really tedious fixing it for one device when other devices work fine (iPhone 5/5S/6/6+, iPad 3/4/Air/Air2,)
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you guys keep thinking about the "kids" and the retail consumers.
the iPod touch is the way to go for businesses.
as for the retail consumer end, some people might like androids but want a cheaper iOS device, and not necessarily a tablet (aka iPad Mini 1 which is what $250 now, which is completely outdated, non-retina), because some people don't carry a man purse/purse to carry a tablet everywhere.
As for the OP, buy it with caution, knowing that this device isn't going to support iOS 9. Apple could of milked this model longer if they just updated the processor and gave it 1 GB of ram.
They're either going to drop the touch or come out with a new version. If they keep iOS9 for the 5th gen Touch, theres no reason why they shouldn't support iPad 2 or the 4S
I hope Apple will update the iPod Touch line. However, judging of their recent "jerkiness" with their products, there is a chance they will also give it up completely. My iPod Touch 5th generation is what brought me to the world of Apple and smart phones, because it is cheap. A new one would be useful if I wanted to test apps on it without having to throw 700$ for an iPhone.
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so you're saying that the 5th generation iTouch is going to be the only 512 MB of ram device running iOS9?
that doesn't make sense, they already announced they're dropping support for iPad 2 and iPhone 4S after iOS8. Why would they keep the Touch when it'll have the same performance issues. If they keep support for the 5th gen touch, then they'd support the iPad 2 and iPhone 4S.
it already crashes at 200MB of memory, i assume iOS9 is going to consume more memory, what then? 150MB? god forbid it crashes at 100MB.
You wouldn't be able to run many apps, only native and basic ones, and they're still going to sell that? Yeah, thats not happening.
They're either going to drop the touch or come out with a new version. If they keep iOS9 for the 5th gen Touch, theres no reason why they shouldn't support iPad 2 or the 4S
When did apple say they were not going to support the iPad 2 or 4S?
Do you realise that currently 59 percent of ipad users are estimated to be on A5 devices? That includes 23 percent on the iPad 2 and 22 on iPad mini 1 which has the same internals as the iPad 2.
Add to the fact that they are still selling not 1 but two A5 devices currently. Dropping all A5 devices would severly fragment apples ios installed base.
If Apple can at least keep performance at ios 8 levels there is no reason for A5 devics not to be supported. And if you support the iPad mini 1 and iPod touch 5 (the devices they are most likely to support as they are still selling them) the 4S and iPad 2 have no reason not to be supported.
They announced it. It was pretty official, it was from apple. Im a developer, i don't remember exactly where because iOS 8 was given to us about 9 months ago.
60 percent of users are on iPad 2 and Mini 1? thats ridiculous. you're saying that 2 Generation has more totals then 5 generations together?
Not to mention the fact that the iPad 2 didnt get a huge price break till much later on, which would still promote users to get the infamous iPad 3 and then the 4 there after, because they'd only spend a couple hundred more bucks to get the retina display iPads.
Not to mention with the Air came out the iPad 4's became exceptionally cheaper.
The only thing appealing about the iPad Mini 1 was that it was only 50 bucks more then the iPod Touch. But its internals are old and antique.
The Mini 1 crashes more often then not, and most apple consumers would know and want to get the newer retina models. considering the Mini 2 is only a hundred more.
Lol at severely, i was thinking they were going to drop all non-reitna models and the 4S with iOS 8 but i guess they're milking it one more year.
Theres plenty of apps (non basic ones) that already dropped support for these devices.
Again 200MB of ram does out of 512 usable? thats just crazy.
Sales are down because Apple didn't promote the iPod line as they used to when it was refreshed in 2012; also a lack of sales comes from a lack of updates.
At best, I see the iPod Touch becoming iPad Nano and the rest of the iPod line being killed off, because this is the most likely scenario.
I hope Apple will update the iPod Touch line. However, judging of their recent "jerkiness" with their products, there is a chance they will also give it up completely. My iPod Touch 5th generation is what brought me to the world of Apple and smart phones, because it is cheap. A new one would be useful if I wanted to test apps on it without having to throw 700$ for an iPhone.
the biggest issue with the iPod Touch is that its antique specs. 512 GB of ram? a very old processor? it makes running memory intensive apps on the iPod near impossible. with iOS 8 Apps crash at the 200GB mark.
Partly because something weren't coded right, but its really tedious fixing it for one device when other devices work fine (iPhone 5/5S/6/6+, iPad 3/4/Air/Air2,)
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For talks of system memory, I believe you meant MB, not GB. But yeah, 1 GB would've been nice. Folks on these forums will claim 2 GB should've been the minimum. It's certainly quite the marketing how they trump higher resources for blazing faster speeds, newer iOS features, but then leave out that your device won't necessarily run that much better, if at all then a previous version of an OS.
have another year to go on my contract for my iPhone so I like to pick up an iPod then... and a 5.5 inch iPod would be great for reading books or games. So I was disappointed they didnt do it. Perhaps they didnt have enough resources to build them while trying to churn out as many high profit phones.
so now i have to wait another year to upgrade the phone instead ;(
iPods are great entry products. and so much thinner than Sony PSP or Nintendo 3DS. OK so buttons are always going to be an issue but maybe that's the niche the other devices are left. Their only sales pitch. Storage on iPods is already better. If Sony had a non-proprietary memory card then maybe things would be different. PSP was good when you use a regular MS card. At least they were so rediculously overpriced (well smaller markup anyway). Piracy will happen no matter what if people are determined. Accept that and move on and make product more people will be happy to pay for.
Phones chew battery more than iPods. Always good to have a separate music/games/book reader on hand.
So Apple, please rethink and make a larger iPod. Please![]()
Apple isn't a company that's afraid of dropping support for devices. It wouldn't fragment their user base, it would actually defragment it. Developers don't have to code for non-retina iPads or 3.5" displays and can focus on 4", 4.7", 5.5", and the retina iPads. Nor do they have to make sure apps work on A5 or 512 MB devices (though most will do regardless if they don't want to lose customers). Not dropping A5 devices because of "too many users" isn't something Apple will do or Apple would still be supporting older devices which they don't.When did apple say they were not going to support the iPad 2 or 4S?
Do you realise that currently 59 percent of ipad users are estimated to be on A5 devices? That includes 23 percent on the iPad 2 and 22 on iPad mini 1 which has the same internals as the iPad 2.
Add to the fact that they are still selling not 1 but two A5 devices currently. Dropping all A5 devices would severly fragment apples ios installed base.
If Apple can at least keep performance at ios 8 levels there is no reason for A5 devics not to be supported. And if you support the iPad mini 1 and iPod touch 5 (the devices they are most likely to support as they are still selling them) the 4S and iPad 2 have no reason not to be supported.
Apple isn't a company that's afraid of dropping support for devices. It wouldn't fragment their user base, it would actually defragment it. Developers don't have to code for non-retina iPads or 3.5" displays and can focus on 4", 4.7", 5.5", and the retina iPads. Nor do they have to make sure apps work on A5 or 512 MB devices (though most will do regardless if they don't want to lose customers). Not dropping A5 devices because of "too many users" isn't something Apple will do or Apple would still be supporting older devices which they don't.
Apple stopped to sell Touch 4gen only 6 months before iOS 7 launch.I think Apple would be a little worried about dropping over half its iPad installed user base. There are more people on A5 iPads than there are on A6, A7 and A8 devices combined. So yes dropping them would lead to fragmentation. Apple boasts at each event how un-fragemnted their installed base is. Leaving the majority of iPad users + a reasonable number of iPhone users would ruin that - people would be scattered over iOS 7, 8 and 9.
iPad users are not upgrading as much, so Apple needs to maintain brand loyalty, so that these people actually buy a new iPad, when they decide to upgrade. Dropping support for say iPad Mini 1 users within 6-7 months of selling them (assuming that they dropped the Mini 1 tomorrow) would be very poor form. Besides, Apple's tradition is to provide support for its devices for 1 year after they are discontinued (Besides the iPod Touch 4, which isa whole other story).
If Apple wants to be greedy and sell device that will shortly loose support, they should have a big fat sticker on the front informing them of that.
In addition to that, Apple has never dropped a device with a market share as big as the A5 devices EVER. The iPhone 4 had a market share around 12-14 percent, the iPhone 3GS had 6 percent (IIRC) and the iPad 1 also had a low market share when support was dropped.
Apple stopped to sell Touch 4gen only 6 months before iOS 7 launch.
But the worst was with iPad 1, which didnt have support for iOS 6.
iPod touch 5th gen still sell and will not have support for iOS 9, same thing for 4S, ipad mini and iPad 2.
Like other companies, Apple is not a charity institution. And yeah, Apple cares bout userbase, since userbase "car€$" bout Apple.
Welcome to the capitalism.
"You know its sad but true!", Metallica
They announced it. It was pretty official, it was from apple. Im a developer, i don't remember exactly where because iOS 8 was given to us about 9 months ago.
60 percent of users are on iPad 2 and Mini 1? thats ridiculous. you're saying that 2 Generation has more totals then 5 generations together?
Not to mention the fact that the iPad 2 didnt get a huge price break till much later on, which would still promote users to get the infamous iPad 3 and then the 4 there after, because they'd only spend a couple hundred more bucks to get the retina display iPads.
Not to mention with the Air came out the iPad 4's became exceptionally cheaper.
The only thing appealing about the iPad Mini 1 was that it was only 50 bucks more then the iPod Touch. But its internals are old and antique.
The Mini 1 crashes more often then not, and most apple consumers would know and want to get the newer retina models. considering the Mini 2 is only a hundred more.
Lol at severely, i was thinking they were going to drop all non-reitna models and the 4S with iOS 8 but i guess they're milking it one more year.
Theres plenty of apps (non basic ones) that already dropped support for these devices.
Again 200MB of ram does out of 512 usable? thats just crazy.
So in September, its time to A5 get discontinued support...