Will this thunderbolt card work in my Mac Pro 5,1?

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  1. CH12671 macrumors 6502

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    First thing is first...is the motherboard compatible?
     
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  3. Artagra macrumors member

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    No, unfortunately not.

    From your link:

    Only works with Asus motherboards, and only certain compatible Asus motherboards. Adding Thunderbolt to any of the tower Mac Pros would be very difficult, and very unlikely to happen. Someone would need to design a card similar to the Asus card from the link, and along with it a custom GPU with a connector to pass video signals to the Thunderbolt card. Without this, it wouldn't meet the Thunderbolt specification and Intel wouldn't sell them Thunderbolt controllers.

    Sorry to rain on your parade :(
     
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    Thanks guys. Bummer! I really want thunderbolt on my Mac. I'm too attached to the Mac Pro 5,1 and I don't want (and can't afford) the new one.
     
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  7. goMac macrumors 603

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    Thunderbolt, as the spec is designed now, will never ever ever work on a stand alone PCI-E card (without a special motherboard).

    Unless the spec changes, the answer for an oMP will always be no.
     
  8. Artagra macrumors member

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    Are we sure that's the case? From my reading / understanding of the spec, you theoretically could make a thunderbolt adapter for any motherboard with enough PCI-E slots & lanes. You'd need a card with a GPU on it and a special output, going to a second card with the thunderbolt chip on it (same as this Asus setup, but with the GPU rather than onboard GPU providing the graphics output).

    Of course, this will never happen - market isn't big enough. And there's also a large chance that Intel wouldn't approve it, and that it would cause all kinds of weird compatibility issues depending on the motherboard.
     
  9. Macman45 macrumors demi-god

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    It's just not viable for a company to produce or research TB on older MP's. Since the new one has it natively, I'm afraid the older models are out if luck.

    You can add in plenty of SSD drives though, and they aren't exactly slow:)
     
  10. Marty62 macrumors 6502

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    You can add in a USB3.0 card ... which also isn't exactly slow ! :)

    M.
     
  11. owenave macrumors newbie

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    It is too bad I really hate working on Widows for Audio...
    But Apple keeps giving me reasons to hate their company.
    I am sure they could release something or code to make
    a PCIe to Thundercrap card work. But they want to force
    people into buying their new Crap Trash Can's.
    And now the latest ban that you can't download a fresh
    copy of your OS if installer was made before Feb 2016
    Is just more CRAP. But I guess they are only interested
    in making larger iPads.
    I just wish Apple would read these forums to see
    how their customers really feel.
    But sadly they don't care.
     
  12. Machines macrumors 6502

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    I just confirmed that two of my archived installer images (Yosemite and El Cap) I made before Feb 2016 can no longer be used to make USB OS X installers . I thought they became corrupt (which is a very rare circumstance as I keep immaculate archives .) Now I am beginning to think Apple is playing games with us . Should we make a new thread with this issue ?
     
  13. owenave macrumors newbie

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    There have been posts about it on here but for some reason they keep getting deleted or moved.
    Here is what you have to do.
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    In case anyone encounters this problem ("OS X Installers Downloaded Prior to February 14 No Longer Work After Certificate Update”), here’s the fix
    (Cut and paste):
    1. In the OS X Installer, choose Utilities > Terminal.
    2. Enter date 0201010116 and press Return.
    3. Quit Terminal and continue the install.
    That Terminal command sets your system date to 1 February 2016 -- before the certificate's expiration -- so the installer can continue. Once you have completed the installation, visit System Preferences > Date & Time to reset the system date.
     
  14. ActionableMango macrumors 604

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    What? When did this happen? I downloaded Yosemite and El Capitan installers from the App Store just a few days ago.
     
  15. Machines macrumors 6502

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    Evidently , it was an one time event involving users who downloaded install files previous to February. If you download the installers today and make an USB OS X installer drive , you will be OK .
     
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