Will U.S. Carriers Now Have to Unlock?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by pittpanthersfan, Oct 7, 2011.

  1. pittpanthersfan macrumors 6502

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    In the past, the argument has always been that AT&T could get away with never unlocking iPhones because the devices could not officially be used on any other U.S. networks.

    Now that we have one device, the iPhone 4S that will operate on any of 3 U.S. carriers, do you think that AT&T, Sprint, and Verizon will be obligated to unlock iPhone 4S after the complettion of a two-year agreement (i.e. After one has paid for the phone in full)?
     
  2. Consultant macrumors G5

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    Nope. That's why they are selling unlocked iPhone for $450 more than contract price.
     
  3. pittpanthersfan thread starter macrumors 6502

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    But you can buy any phone at the no commitment, more than contract price. AT&T has given me the unlock code for a BlackBerry for international travel, no questions asked, yet I could've bought that outright rather than start a two-year contract.

    Once they've recouped their subsidy and I've 100% paid for the phone, why can/would they keep my iPhone locked to their network when they're willing to unlock virtually every other phone?

    Just trying to wrap my head around the logic here.
     
  4. Stealthipad macrumors 68040

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    Say this slowly: AT&T does NOT have the ability to unlock an Apple Phone.:)
     
  5. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

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    Oh they got the ability.
    They just don't want to and noone is making them so why unlock them?
     
  6. pittpanthersfan thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Yeah, ok. :rolleyes:

    Canadian carriers are able to provide unlock codes for iPhone, but Apple is withholding from AT&T for some unknown reason. Oh well. At least there's the devteam.
     
  7. pyro008 macrumors 6502

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    Yeah sure go ahead and make Sprint and VZW unlock the phones. They still won't activate them on their networks.
     
  8. EricNau Moderator emeritus

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    I used to work for Apple, and this is NOT what we were told. We were informed that it was up to AT&T whether or not to unlock the phones, and if a customer was to request an unlock code we were told to direct them to their carrier.

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    I HOPE that this means AT&T (and the others) will have to unlock the iPhone 4S once a contract has been fulfilled. AT&T's previous class-action lawsuit settlements imply that they'll unlock any handset which is not an AT&T exclusive (until now, all iPhones were "exclusive" to AT&T). However, the settlements mention the iPhone specifically, giving them a loophole should they decide they don't want to unlock an iPhone under any circumstances, exclusive or not.

    It's really, really rotten. After 2 years that phone should me mine, and I should be able to take it to any carrier I please. As it is, I might as well be renting it.
     
  9. pittpanthersfan thread starter macrumors 6502

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    EricNau, thanks for the insight!
     
  10. thewitt macrumors 68020

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    I don't know where you got this information but it is incorrect.

    The lock is a carrier lock and only the carrier will remove it. They choose not to unlock the iPhone at AT&T.

    Apple will not unlock it because your contract for the subsidized phone is with the carrier, not the manufacturer.

    -t
     
  11. Ugg macrumors 68000

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    The problem is US lawmakers have no interest in protecting consumers from monopolistic carriers.
     

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