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ITsamsamsam

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the new 48 mega pixel sensor at full resolution takes much more detailed photos but is slower and each photo weighs an average of 50 mb against 2.5 of the 12 mega pixels. Will you be shooting mainly at 48 or 12? Under what circumstances will you prefer 48?
 

blw777

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12mp for me unless there's something important about the shot. One particular thing, though: if the shot is from a long way and the "telephoto" isn't long enough, we're definitely into 48mp to permit much more aggressive cropping, a practical substitute for a longer lens.
 

Aceroller

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Quick question. If I enable the pro raw 48MP and the toggle is off in the camera app (slash through it), then I will just be taking normal “non raw” photos just like it was never enabled right?
 

ITsamsamsam

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I'm not sure if the crop on the 1x at 48 beats a crop on the 3x at 12 mpx ... I did a quick test and on a fairly close landscape it doesn't beat it. I don't know in a long street
(First is 48, then 12)
 

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Menneisyys2

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Quick question. If I enable the pro raw 48MP and the toggle is off in the camera app (slash through it), then I will just be taking normal “non raw” photos just like it was never enabled right?
Yes, and this also means Live photos will also be shot (unless you disabled them explicitly)
 

Gator5000e

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The toggle for Raw and Live is confirmed in the Apple iOS 16 User Guide. It's free to download in the Apple Books store. Very handy and detailed. It answers a lot of questions and has very detailed instructions on how to do things, like use the camera.
 
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gtg465x

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12 MP HEIC from Apple Camera for everyday quick share and reminder photos that I don't plan to keep forever, 48 MP HEIC from Halide for most pictures I plan to keep, and 48 MP ProRAW+HEIC from Halide for photos of especially awesome scenes or moments.

48 MP HEIC from Halide are much quicker to take and much smaller than the 48 MP ProRAW photos from the Apple Camera app, but they look the same. The only time ProRAW would be preferable is if you plan to edit.
 
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ITsamsamsam

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I did some tests today.
The 48 photos are not simply the photos at 12 but with more resolution, they are completely different: downloaded on the mac it is evident that they are less processed, to the point that out of the box the photos at 12 look more beautiful.
The pro raw gives you much more possibilities in photo retouching but I have noticed that the evening photos are better at 12.
What do you think?
 
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Jackbequickly

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I'm not sure if the crop on the 1x at 48 beats a crop on the 3x at 12 mpx ... I did a quick test and on a fairly close landscape it doesn't beat it. I don't know in a long street
(First is 48, then 12)

‘when I look at your images, the 48mb image is the size of a postage stamp!
 
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1096bimu

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I made a shortcut that converts the image into HEIC, and that's what I do when I want a 48MP image but don't want it to be 100mb on storage. Usually the HEIC version is only 4mb which is insanely efficient.

While the default jpeg/heic images you get on the 14 pro aren't that different from before, the 48mp ProRAW is really on another level, I'd say the overall quality is starting to beat out good APS-C cameras. You can still get pixel level details in good in-door lighting, which cannot be said of an average APS-C camera with kit lens.

the default processing is still ass like before, but at least with the new style thing introduced last year you can lock it into a lower dynamic range, where as before on my 12PM the insane HDR effect was unavoidable and I had to manually edit every single photo. I wish they can also add in a sharpening slider, that's still a huge annoyance.
 

Fatus_Asticus

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I made a shortcut that converts the image into HEIC, and that's what I do when I want a 48MP image but don't want it to be 100mb on storage. Usually the HEIC version is only 4mb which is insanely efficient.

While the default jpeg/heic images you get on the 14 pro aren't that different from before, the 48mp ProRAW is really on another level, I'd say the overall quality is starting to beat out good APS-C cameras. You can still get pixel level details in good in-door lighting, which cannot be said of an average APS-C camera with kit lens.

the default processing is still ass like before, but at least with the new style thing introduced last year you can lock it into a lower dynamic range, where as before on my 12PM the insane HDR effect was unavoidable and I had to manually edit every single photo. I wish they can also add in a sharpening slider, that's still a huge annoyance.
Would you mind posting your shortcut?
 

1096bimu

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Would you mind posting your shortcut?
You only need 2 steps for the conversion so it's not even worth posting
just do convert to HEIC followed by save to album

There's a bit more if you want it to delete the original but that's kind of a pain in the ass anyway cuz it asks you for confirmation every time.
 
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Menneisyys2

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48 MP HEIC from Halide are much quicker to take and much smaller than the 48 MP ProRAW photos from the Apple Camera app, but they look the same. The only time ProRAW would be preferable is if you plan to edit.
Very good tip! While I have a 2021 16" MBP, browsing thru the 48Mpixel DNGs is a very slow process. (With Preview. I won't pay for anything subscription-based - see Photoshop.)
 

Menneisyys2

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Not brighter, but lower noise
With true RAW files. But these 48Mpixel ProRAWs are already HEAVILY processed and noise reduced. Further averaging (the 48 -> 12 Mpixel conversion) won't improve the SNR as much as with 'true' RAWs.
 
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