Will you sleep with watch to track your sleep?

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  1. dmonnin macrumors regular

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    I was wondering who all might be planning on sleeping with it to track your sleep. I figure if you get home from work or after dinner you can throw it on the charger till bed. Wondering if sleep could still be tracked in power reserve mode. Regardless I don't think much battery would be drained by next morning if all notifications are silenced through the night
     
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  3. StophMac24 macrumors 6502

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    It doesn't track sleep. If it did, I would also not be able to use it the next day....unless charging it at work for the first two hours was an option.
     
  4. Mad Mac Maniac macrumors 601

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    Apparently it's not built in, but there are tons of iPhone apps that do this. No doubt at least one of them will extend this capability to the Watch.

    Of course you'd want to charge your phone some other time during the day
     
  5. BeyondtheTech macrumors 68020

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    That's the first issue I've noticed. Unless you're going to let the battery drain while you sleep, there's no way for the sensors to touch your skin when that big-ass charging cylinder is on the back of the WATCH.
     
  6. Tomorrow macrumors 604

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    I have a means of tracking my sleep that doesn't require wearing anything:

    1. I note the time I go to bed.
    2. I note the time I get up.
    3. <math>
    4. I know how long I slept.
     
  7. Poochi macrumors 6502a

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    it's more comfortable sleeping without a watch on your wrist...
     
  8. MrLoL macrumors 6502

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    Actually, sleep tracking analyse the movements and knows if you're sleeping or still partially awake. It also determinate the sleep quality (if you slept profoundly or not)
     
  9. Brammy macrumors 65816

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    I hope an app does this. I have an hour ride to work, so I'd just charge the Watch on the ride to and from.
     
  10. kmoreau48 macrumors member

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    I'm guessing third party apps will allow the watch to become a sleep tracker. Right now tracking your sleep can be done with the iphone tucked in under your pillow while you sleep. Having the watch on your wrist instead is more convenient and probably more accurate as it will track your actual movement and not the possible movement of the other person in the bed.

    Also the best way to get your heartbeat at rest is when you wake up... that's something I would be interested in and would like to compare over time.
     
  11. Tomorrow macrumors 604

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    Cool.

    Wait - no, not really. What difference does it make? I can wake up in the morning and tell by how tired I am whether I slept well or not.
     
  12. kmoreau48 macrumors member

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    The fact that you wake up tired is not only based on the amount of sleep you had. The quality of the sleep is important as well. How do you know the quality of your sleep when you are sleeping? Some nights I can sleep only 4 hours and be less tired than when I sleep for 10hours. That's how the sleep tracker help to figure out the reason why you are tired in the morning.
     
  13. T-Will macrumors 6502a

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    I'll probably just continue wearing my UP24 on my other wrist to track sleep.
     
  14. VFC macrumors 6502a

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    Accurate sleep tracking is more than just monitoring movements. You also have to track your heart rate. My FitBit Surge does both. It can tell exactly when I fell asleep by noting my drop in heart rate and the steady state afterwards. That same HR tracking also can be used to determine the difference between deep sleep vs just laying still wide awake.
     
  15. BSben macrumors 6502a

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    Proper sleep tracking has to be done in a clinic. Hobby sleep tracking usually leads to poor sleeping patterns, as people start to worry about sleeping. A similar effect can be seen in people checking their blood pressure too much, they get anxious and their blood pressure rises.
    Sleep tracking has become an obsession. If you feel tired in the morning/at work, go to bed earlier. If that doesn't help, change your lifestyle. Just please stop analysing your sleeping pattern, it is going to drive you mad, it is not helping you.
     
  16. QCassidy352 macrumors G3

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    Nonsense, we need more technology to free ourselves from the burden of having using sense. More technology I say!!
     
  17. VFC macrumors 6502a

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    I disagree with most of your statements.

    Yes sleep tracking at a clinic is more accurate; however, that is only a snapshot of just one night, plus it is very expensive.

    I have months worth of sleep tracking data from my Surge. I have gotten my deep-sleep HR down to 40 by altering my workout methodology. I am making some progress in the sleep duration and quality by altering the timing of my meals and workouts; and even little things like pillows and keeping the dog out of the bed.

    Same with blood pressure. My BP readings at the doctor's office vary considerably; depending largely on my anxiety level at the time the readings are taken. My BP also varies by time of day, whether it is a work day or weekend, and what and when I ate or drank. I take my BP, with one of the more accurate BP monitors, twice a day and show my average readings on my phone app to my doc. He believes that is more accurate than the one-time shot he gets at the office.
     
  18. 8CoreWhore macrumors 68020

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    There are iPhone apps that track sleep that should get Watch companions. I use 24/7 from MotionX. I wonder though if it would be a battery drain, we'll see.
     
  19. LeeKennedy macrumors member

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    Try Sleep Cycle; Sleep Cycle alarm clock by Northcube AB
    https://appsto.re/gb/jabht.i

    Probably not as accurate as a dedicated tracker, especially as I sleep with another person and two dogs, but I like seeing the long term data and it does encourage to me get 7-8 hours knowing I have to look at the figure in the morning
     
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    If it doesn't track heart rate, then every time your dog moves the sleep track app will interpret the movement as non-sleep even though you may be in your deepest sleep state.
     
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  22. Tomorrow macrumors 604

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    You didn't answer my question - what difference does it make?

    I wake up tired, and I deduce from that that I didn't sleep well. According to you, I could be right or I could be wrong, but I find it hard to believe I can go to bed at 9:30, wake up at 6, feel well-rested, and deduce from that that I tossed and turned all night - but so what if I did?

    Let's say I wear this watch to bed and it says I tossed and turned all night - so what? What use to me is that information? How does it help me?

    Either I'm tired in the morning or I'm not; I don't need a watch to tell me that.
     
  23. Lucifer666 macrumors 6502a

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    Right. I know this already:

    WARNING SEVERE SLEEP DEPRIVATION!!!!!

    Suggestions:

    Get more sleep.

    I don't need them to tell me anything :(

    But a haptic alarm for getting up would be nice :)
     
  24. Brammy macrumors 65816

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    It's not that cut and dry.

    I have sleep apnea and use a CPAP machine (hate that stupid thing). I'll wake up in the morning and think I slept ok, but a few hours later I'll think, "I must not have slept very well last night." Other times I'll wake up feeling dog ass tired thinking I slept crappy and once I get to work I feel ok.

    All waking up tired measures is you woke up tired. There's no data behind that. Maybe you did sleep ok, but got up 5 times to go pee you don't remember. I work doing data analysis, so I prefer hard numbers to analyze rather than probably incorrect assumptions.

    In my case, what does it matter? If I can bring in good data to my doctor, that's of value. I don't have to hand in the SD card from my CPAP anymore and I'm not sure how much data that thing really captures anyway.
     
  25. BSben macrumors 6502a

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    You are so like totally right, what is all that common sense rubbish about? The dangers of sleeping without supervision are so underestimated. Billions of people have died because they were not sleeping according to plan...
    or maybe they were just old and died in dignity.
     

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