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Will you upgrade to 2.1, or restore and start fresh?

Will you upgrade to 2.1, or restore and start fresh?

  • I'll plaster it on top of 2.0.x

    Votes: 104 74.3%

  • I'll do the wipey wipe.

    Votes: 36 25.7%
  • Total voters
    140
mcdj

mcdj

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I can't help but think it wouldn't be such a bad idea to wipe the phone and start anew when installing 2.1.

What about you?
 
Considering it's supposed to fix the major issues such as backup time, applications crashing, installation, etc.

I'm gonna erase all contents and settings too.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the whole point of the iPhone is that an upgrade IS a wipe and install. When you run the updater, that's what it's doing.

That's why applications have such strict rules and must save their data in their own little folders. It's because everything outside of there gets nuked whenever an "upgrade" is performed. And I put "upgrade" in quotes because it's really a wipe-and-install.

At least, that's what I read last year. Does anyone know if this is correct?

If this is true, the thread question is really: "Are you going to waste time, or not?"
 
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I just upgraded my iPod - took five minutes and worked great! - but I plan to DFU restore my iPhone. For one thing, it's jailbroken. Even if it weren't, I think 2.1 is a significant enough upgrade that it should be a 'clean' install. I'll be deleting all my old backups as well, and setting up as a new phone. ;)
 
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Small White Car said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the whole point of the iPhone is that an upgrade IS a wipe and install. When you run the updater, that's what it's doing.

That's why applications have such strict rules and must save their data in their own little folders. It's because everything outside of there gets nuked whenever an "upgrade" is performed. And I put "upgrade" in quotes because it's really a wipe-and-install.

At least, that's what I read last year. Does anyone know if this is correct?

If this is true, the thread question is really: "Are you going to waste time, or not?"
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I don't know, but I've been running iTunes with backups disabled (via Terminal) and when I upgraded my iPod touch, it took about five minutes and everything was there when I finished - apps, media, etc ...
 
mavis said:
I don't know, but I've been running iTunes with backups disabled (via Terminal) and when I upgraded my iPod touch, it took about five minutes and everything was there when I finished - apps, media, etc ...
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I doubt there's any way for us to know, just by watching it work. Someone with direct knowledge would have to tell us.

All I know is, an upgrade did a clean wipe on the original iPhone. Meaning, there was no reason to wipe it first since it's just going to do it again once you upgrade.

Whether this is still true for version 2, I have no idea.
 
Small White Car said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the whole point of the iPhone is that an upgrade IS a wipe and install. When you run the updater, that's what it's doing.

That's why applications have such strict rules and must save their data in their own little folders. It's because everything outside of there gets nuked whenever an "upgrade" is performed. And I put "upgrade" in quotes because it's really a wipe-and-install.

At least, that's what I read last year. Does anyone know if this is correct?

If this is true, the thread question is really: "Are you going to waste time, or not?"
Click to expand...

mavis said:
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I don't know, but I've been running iTunes with backups disabled (via Terminal) and when I upgraded my iPod touch, it took about five minutes and everything was there when I finished - apps, media, etc ...
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I think it's pretty much in that updates wipe out the system partition.

Resting wipes out both system and media.
 
i doubt u need to do a full restore for it to work properly, because than why wouldn't the phone just do that on its own.
 
I don't really see how deleting my media off will really effect anything. Its just going to be put right back on in the same format.

And all remnants of the old firmware are wiped every time you update. You get a completely fresh and new firmware, so deleting the firmware has no effect whatsoever.

So I'll just upgrade. If I have problems I might do a full clean restore, but I've never had such problems sooo... *Knocks on wood*
 
FJR said:
I don't really see how deleting my media off will really effect anything. Its just going to be put right back on in the same format.

And all remnants of the old firmware are wiped every time you update. You get a completely fresh and new firmware, so deleting the firmware has no effect whatsoever.
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I agree. :)
 
with an upgrade you don't lose any data or apps

but a fresh restore you do lose your data and apps (unless you revert back to your backups).

i'm going to just start it fresh. contacts/e-mails/photos have been synced so it'll all dump back into the phone in no time. and from the sound of things, apps will install fast this time around too :)

the only major loss imo are the app's saved data. but i don't have too many games that i care about their saved state anyway, so gonna start fresh.
 
I haven't had any major problems with any of the firmware upgrades either and I haven't started fresh. I do get more app crashes in 2.0.2 than I did in the previous firmware, but I think a lot of people had that problem so I doubt it can be isolated to me upgrading instead of starting fresh.
 
Its a firmware "update", so i will go with update. Only if there is an issue i will restore, resurect et all (touches wood that it doesnt happen).

This is what i do:
  • Charge fully, so that it doesnt conk off in between lol
  • Do a back up and sync one last time, so that data is not lost
  • Switch off other software running on the computer, you never know what will come in between
  • Switch to airplane mode, who knows a rougue sms or call come in between to screw happiness
  • Plug in and hit update, and wait patiently for the software and hardware to do its job :)
 
Fresh oh yeah! Putting back the settings is easier and the sync is a lot faster then waiting for the backup to load to the iphone. That takes forever.
 
I'm new in this all and the iPhone 3G is my first Apple product.
I would like to know how do you differentiate between a clean wipe and just an update.
Let's say, I connect my iPhone to iTunes and let it update does that mean just update ? I assume so.
How do you do a totally clean update then ?
 
/b/ said:
I'm new in this all and the iPhone 3G is my first Apple product.
I would like to know how do you differentiate between a clean wipe and just an update.
Let's say, I connect my iPhone to iTunes and let it update does that mean just update ? I assume so.
How do you do a totally clean update then ?
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Hit "Restore" from iTunes once it is connected. It will erase everything on your iPhone and starts over. (It will be like the first time you plug in your iPhone)
 
that was the other thing i wanted to avoid. the "last long" backup :p fresh restore ftw.
 
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