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Will you use Safari as daily driver on Tahoe?

Yes, but I do wish Safari did at least two things other browsers do:

1. Have an option to clear cookies/cache on exit.
2. When watching a video, switching to another tab or opening a tab will automatically make the video enter PiP.
 
Even though I find it highly annoying how many sites don't work with Safari, I'll continue to use it as my main browser. There's too much integration with other aspects of the OS (both Mac and iOS) that I would miss.
 
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MacGizmo said:
Even though I find it highly annoying how many sites don't work with Safari, I'll continue to use it as my main browser. There's too much integration with other aspects of the OS (both Mac and iOS) that I would miss.
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What about the integration do you like the most?
 
I doubt it. I always thought Safari was supposed to be great, until I came to the Mac platform and found that a few sites I often visit just don't work with it, so I changed to Firefox, which is what I used on Windows, now I use Brave. Not only that, but I have no idea when I will change to Tahoe, looking at videos and to be honest, I am not that impressed by the new UI
 
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I will likely stick with Firefox for a few reasons. The first is cross-platform compatibility and synchronization of bookmarks, extensions, and settings between browsers. The second is better compatibility with websites in general. Beyond that, it comes down to personal preference for the Firefox UI and layout over Safari (even on mobile) and compatibility with the specific browser extensions I use.
 
Nope. First time in many years I haven’t switched over completely in june

UI is too distracting and steals too much screen real estate
 
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if they don't bring this option back, no
 

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The new safari sucks, specifically tabs. Very hard to notice at first glance which tab is active, and clicking to a different tab takes multiple clicks to get it to switch over, not to mention that rearranging is basically broken.
 
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TehFalcon said:
The new safari sucks, specifically tabs. Very hard to notice at first glance which tab is active, and clicking to a different tab takes multiple clicks to get it to switch over, not to mention that rearranging is basically broken.
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Seeing which tab is active hasn't been a huge problem for me, but I have noticed having to click to change tabs. But I chalked it up to being in beta, and hopefully that behavior does not persist.

My biggest issue with Safari is the same as it ever was. No uBlock. I know other alternatives exist, but having to install them as an app I never liked.
 
benwiggy said:
Mostly, it's got all my passwords.
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I use bit warden for my passwords, mainly because it is multi-platform and also because I used it on my PC before I got Even the new Mac password App is not great if you use different platforms.
 
Extension ecosystem is just so much better on Firefox. I'm not going to be able to switch to Safari, there are key things that I would have to go without that I don't want to.
 
Chrome has been the best for me through a number of major and minor OS upgrades.

Firefox was at times spectacular and then went off the rails a little too often, for unknown reasons. Safari has been slow, lackluster and had occasional website incompatibilities in the past.
 
I’ve used Safari as primary browser since I switched from Windows to Mac. I see no reason so far to move away.
 
VitoBotta said:
If not, what is missing that you need?
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I was using Safari all the time but with Tahoe for now they have completely destroyed safari for whatever reason:
-I'm using side bar for the tab groups and bookmarks but with Tahoe: they have added stupid choppy animation and made the tab resizing the whole content of the page (it was so before but fluid and not choppy), it should be just showing on top without changing the content and using the transparency for looks etc, and no idea why it shrinks the nav bar when there is no reason for that, the bookmark list was crazy useful with small icons and list of pages, I got all in folders (first time learned to use bookmarks and not 100+ open pages), now the bookmark list has some huge icons with the content of the web for whatever reason and with 50 bookmarks it is unreadable and useless, like good luck searching the tab you want (ofc you have a search button but often I don't know what exact bookmark I'm looking for I just scroll through them to find)
-the new tabs are hard to read, I don't understand the dark mark on each tab, I have hard time noticing which tab is open currently
-Tahoe Safari is crazy slow, like it is painful to use comparing to any firefox or chrome, again I moved to safari 2 years ago and really liked it (the idea of tab groups, side menu etc) I got used to it but Tahoe is pain to use
-the navbar changes color to the content but not in full screen and I use 90% fs and on top of that (but it is liek the problem of the new design) when you scroll the website it sometimes rapidly changes color to diffrent background which is crazy irritating but ios Safari has the same "new" designe, just open the macroumors main page and scroll the content, it will change the color of the address bar like from white background, black font to whatever color the picture underneath is up to white background black font all in one second like a colorful strobe. So like I understand the idea of being readable but if you have a black background, white font is plenty readable you don't have to change to white background black font it just makes no sense and the change is not even fluid which would make it less strobby and maybe not so irritating
-animation of chanign the windows is crazy slow which makes it painfull to use more then one safari window.

TLDR. TAhoe SAfari is useless rn for a person who was using it as a main browser
 
No.

Firefox for better extensions, site containers and PiP that works on any and all videos across the web
 
Firefox added a stupid sidebar I never wanted in the last update plus they've begun pushing their own AI crap down everyone's throat. (Anyone remember when Firefox was supposed to be all about open source and user customizable? Ever since 'Quantum' they've done everything to be anti-user, hostile to users (disabling legacy extensions, and not allowing nearly the theming as older versions, plus AI, Pocket, the new Start Page full of ads, forced updates without any means to disable, and more)

Changing the UI unnecessarily, and forced AI nonsense is exactly a few reasons why I always have auto-updates off if possible. I don't have that choice in Firefox anymore.

I would prefer Safari if it weren't the modern-day Internet Explorer with all the sites that break with it (Reddit being one such site, follow a notification and it freezes the tab requiring closing the tab, opening a new tab, reloading the site and trying again and again. Others do this weird '90s internet view' that makes a site format as if it were being browsed from NSCA Mosaic from the 90s for some asinine reason, breaking the flow at work; A site that commonly does this is countrycat.com, a parts site we use for our mechanic work. It either does the 90s internet thing, forcing Chrome as an alternative, or freezes into an endless loop with CloudFlare doing its asinine human verification crap.)

I'm one of those folks y'all probably hate, using either Google Chrome or Opera. Because unlike Firefox shoving Mozilla's whims down my throat and unlike Safari reminding me of IE 9, those actually 'just work'
 
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