Windows 10 anniversary update pushes Cortana

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  1. frankgrimes macrumors 6502a

    frankgrimes

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    Since today is the last - thank god - day of the free Windows 10 update and the anniversary update is right around the corner this news may be concerncing to some.

    http://www.extremetech.com/computin...disabled-in-the-windows-10-anniversary-update

    I've bolded the most important parts and personally believe this is another reason why I will never ever update to Windows 10, I'd rather go full Linux Mint or even MacOS (no that's not meant as an insult!). I get it MS needs Cortana to collect as much data as possible and phone as much as possible home to their servers but honestly? Telling users what they can and can't disable? That's disgusting.

    Anyhow I did some research and found some tricks how you can still disable Cortana:

    Windows 10 PRO:
    Open gpedit.msc - Configuration - Administrative Templates - Windows Components - Search for "AllowCortana" dc on it and turn it of

    Windows 10 home (works for Pro too obviously):
    Open regedit.exe - accept the UAC - now go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Search - locate "AllowCortana" and set the value to 0 (zero)

    All the credit for those solutions goes to: http://www.ghacks.net/2016/07/26/you-will-use-cortana-says-microsoft/

    So basically you can still turn of Cortana, it's just more tricky for no real reason other that MS wants to push another Service on you. Obviously I would like to know what Bill Gates is thinking of such shady decisions.

    Please keep in mind that future updates could reset all those settings to enabled so you might have to do the same thing again. If it's still possible I'd recommend writing a small bashfile for this procedure.
     
  2. Shirasaki, Jul 29, 2016
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    Shirasaki macrumors 603

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    Starting from Windows 10, windows update is not possible to be turned off through easy to find and easy to use control panel options.

    Now we need group policy editors to turn off Cortana!

    Glad Microsoft still has huge enterprise market and windows server would possibly never bring Cortana as it is completely a gimmick for server.

    I use windows 10. But I will soon become extremely reluctant on next major windows update. Windows 10 enterprise should be able to last long enough before being forced to update to a future version.

    Edit: Windows 10 professional Group Policy Editor will soon become a "decoration" rather than actual tool.
    http://betanews.com/2016/07/28/windows-10-anniversary-update-takes-back-control/
     
  3. keysofanxiety macrumors 604

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    Cheers Grimey :)

    I've encountered a world of issues with Windows 10. A load of random bugs when we're deploying identical images to identical systems. Bitterly frustrating. Off the top of my head here are a couple:

    High Resource Usage/Disk getting hammered for no reason.

    Start Menu>Settings>System>Notifications & Actions>disable 'Show tips about Windows'

    Windows Explorer crashes/restarts when creating new folder on desktop or opening zip files

    Extensive list of things we've tried; DISM repairs, etc. The only fix is to create a new user account.
    --- Post Merged, Jul 29, 2016 ---
    Yep, you should have seen my confusion when first typing wuapp into the Run box said it couldn't find anything...
     
  4. frankgrimes thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I think the forced updates stuff has to be one of the dumbest decisions ever for an OS. Especially given the fact how "ready" some of the updates were/are. The excuse "security" is so stupid, every worthwile third party Antimalware coupled with a good firewall will work better than MS own Windowsdefender - so no need here also.

    I really wish MS would stop pushing their services and just make them better so people would actually want to use them.

    I think the Enterprise version should have an option to turn of updates completely doesn't it?
     
  5. Shirasaki macrumors 603

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    One reason why I ALWAYS choose to use enterprise version of Windows starting from Windows 8, even though I theoretically can only legally acquire it through Microsoft volume licensing service, which is pricy for almost any individual.
    I started using windows server 2008 r2 when windows 7 came out as it was more capable and I could add a lot of enterprise features for personal use. Only thing missing was Bluetooth, which was not what I care because I had no computer with Bluetooth at that time yet. Once Microsoft introduces windows server 2016 I will jump the ship and say good bye for customer Windows 10.
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    Yes. But even that option cannot just completely remove windows update from system like what previous windows version did. The best it can do is to disable "automatic check and download and install updates". I already have it enabled and now my PC laptop restarts once per month if not even longer. I am more than happy with it.
     
  6. rshrugged macrumors 6502a

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    Thanks, for this.
    I hope that the people who've been defending Windows 10's feature of mandatory, automatic updates on the basis that you can avoid it through different means, note this story. MSFT can, and possibly will, thwart any efforts to bypass their OS lockdown strategy. For better or worse (I think the latter), their intention has been clear. It's best to be honest about it.
     
  7. frankgrimes thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Well this seems like the great new Windows as a service world doesn't it? MS wants your money and they want to decide how you are going to use your own computer, that's unbelievable. Not only will this behaviour backfire badly it will also be the start of another lawsuit against them, not that they care because MS has just too much money but man they are really trying to push it.

    Thank you for that news deserves it's own thread in my mind, so might as well create one? :) Now forced updates, forced cortana and the next step is removing features from the professionel version? Wow they are really going out of their way this time.
     
  8. Shirasaki macrumors 603

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    MS knows well conventional customers would not go all out and acquire enterprise version windows 10 using extremely pricy MSDN subscription, or through volume licensing service. So theyd like to push it to all conventional customers and slowly screw them up. And those customers are just like frogs staying in warm water, which will eventually be killed when water gradually go warmer and eventually hot enough to kill frog.

    I don't mind opening a new thread. :)
     
  9. rshrugged macrumors 6502a

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    According to Martin Brinkmann, at ghacks, this change goes beyond gpedit to also include effective registry editing.
    http://www.ghacks.net/2016/07/28/microsoft-removes-policies-windows-10-pro/
     
  10. craig1024 macrumors regular

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    Thankfully I don't have to deal with this in Ireland its not available.
     
  11. Shirasaki macrumors 603

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  12. frankgrimes thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Smart move but it still shouldn't be necessary there is no way MS can get away with this. Some users want control and they don't have a business so no enterprise version other than a pirated one.

    with the update now over I think a lot of people are happy, no more Windows 10 nagscreens ...till the next free offer.
     

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