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"Windows 7 does not boot faster" - CNet

edesignuk said:
It boots quick enough. I don't understand the obsession with boot times, so long as it doesn't take hours what difference does it make?
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it makes a big difference for laptops where you're often pulling them out to check something



i remember my last windows machine (Celeron 2.0GHz, 256MB RAM, 40GB HDD) was taking over 20 minutes to load towards the end...
 
Genghis Khan said:
it makes a big difference for laptops where you're often pulling them out to check something



i remember my last windows machine (Celeron 2.0GHz, 256MB RAM, 40GB HDD) was taking over 20 minutes to load towards the end...
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But if you do that, aren't you just waking your laptop from sleep. That's a different process than booting.
 
oblomow said:
But if you do that, aren't you just waking your laptop from sleep. That's a different process than booting.
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If you're going to be away from an outlet for a while and don't want your battery to die in its sleep, then you may just shut it off and boot up when you need it. That's what I did with my old Dell (who's battery wouldn't last through a day in sleep, even when it was new).
 
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edesignuk said:
It boots quick enough. I don't understand the obsession with boot times, so long as it doesn't take hours what difference does it make?
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I don't have a ruler to measure the length of my penis, but I do have a watch, and this is the next best thing....
 
Having used Win 7 for about 5 months now, boot times never seemed to be an issue for me.
My start up menu is full of crap that I have been purposely put in there. When I start IE I have 10 tabs opening.
To be honest, I have never been sitting on the edge of my seat yelling faster dammit.
I am sure there will be some picking apart win7 for their self doing.

I will gladly take slower boot times over this
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/801736/
 
I have to disagree with CNET here. My Windows 7 installation boots faster than my Vista installation did, but not by much... the difference is a matter of less than 5 seconds.

Contrast that with Snow Leopard compared to Leopard... all I can say here is, "WOW!". Boot time is drastically shortened. I thought Leopard booted fast (0:30) on my 2.33 GHz C2D iMac, but Snow Leopard absolutely blows that away, booting in just 0:15 (from a cold start - oddly, rebooting after coming out of Windows takes considerably longer - 0:45).
 
bruinsrme said:
Having used Win 7 for about 5 months now, boot times never seemed to be an issue for me.
My start up menu is full of crap that I have been purposely put in there. When I start IE I have 10 tabs opening.
To be honest, I have never been sitting on the edge of my seat yelling faster dammit.
I am sure there will be some picking apart win7 for their self doing.

I will gladly take slower boot times over this
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/801736/
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I would gladly take a problem that is going to be resolved over this: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...n&q=windows+virus+removal&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g3g-m4
 
uberamd said:
I would gladly take a problem that is going to be resolved over this: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...n&q=windows+virus+removal&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g3g-m4
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viruses will generally always be the users fault. using common sense on a computer will basically free you of any risks. i use no software firewall or antivirus and haven't gotten a single virus/malware in my life.

i'd gladly take responsibility for something that would be considered my fault. that snow leopard bug however, is clearly apples fault. huge difference.
 
js81 said:
If you don't know what "win-rot" is, then you obviously haven't used any version of Windows (post 95, at least) for any amount of time. Win-rot (sorry if that's not a correct term) is the phenomenon that occurs to Windows desktops over time. (Yeah, it occurs to Macs, too, just not to as extreme as sense.) They continually get slower.. and slower....... and slower............ (not just at booting, either).
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dandaley said:
TennisandMusic, I am a programmer and haven't installed anything new on this machine (Windows XP) in a long time... yet it is noticeably slower now than it was after I set it all up. Maybe you can tell me the trick to speeding it up? It isn't disk fragmentation because I scheduled defrag to run every night.
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I think both of you are describing registry fragmentation, which a regular defragmenter won't help with. But there are registry defragmenters out there (I use CCleaner because it is free) that will help remove left-over registry entries and compact the registry when it starts getting fragmented.
 
I have to disagree with CNET here as well.

"Boot time" is a VERY relative term when it comes to Windows.

If you go by the simple definition "from the point in time when you press the power button to the point in time when the login prompt appears", then yes, Vista and Win7 reach that point at pretty much the same speed.

But with Windows, the login prompt (and/or desktop) appearing on the screen is more or less a scam, because Windows is nowhere near done booting. It spends aeons torturing the hard disk by reading gigabytes into the SuperFetch buffer and a dozen other processes, and if you click anything during this time it will just freeze up for 30 seconds or so. You might as well go make coffee while waiting for the HDD to stop chattering.

This "post-boot boot time" is certainly shorter in Win7, even when compared to a fresh Vista installation. So if we extend the term "boot time" to mean "from the point in time you press the power button to the point in time the computer is actually at your full disposal", Win7 wins.

jzuena said:
I think both of you are describing registry fragmentation, which a regular defragmenter won't help with. But there are registry defragmenters out there (I use CCleaner because it is free) that will help remove left-over registry entries and compact the registry when it starts getting fragmented.
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Win-rot was a major issue with XP, but I never saw the same kind of degradation pattern in Vista or Win7. They stay relatively fresh. SuperFetch is the major resource hogger during boot, it preloads bizarre amounts of data into RAM in order to make apps start faster, but this starts happening immediately (or, technically, from the 2nd boot and on) so it doesn't get worse over time, it goes up to 'pretty annoying' level after a few days and then it stays there.

More importantly, Vista and Win7 don't degrade over the course of a session like XP did, so you don't have to reboot to flush out the rot every few hours. Vista/Win7 can go for several weeks on one boot. Therefore you can use hybrid sleep or hibernation instead of rebooting.
 
I don't have much experience with Vista so I can't say much about it, but I did have the Win 7 RC on my UMBP for while.

Given that it was running in Boot Camp with Apple drivers that were meant for Vista, I thought it booted pretty quick, just marginally slower than Leopard on the same machine.

On the other hand, I never used it for much, ( I am totally lacking in Windows Apps, and unwilling to invest in any), so I may have never reached a "Super Fetch" loading issue.
 
Winni said:
However, who gives a damn? We don't spend our time booting our computers, but using them, so runtime performance is what matters. And clearly, this is where Windows 7 blows the competition out of the water - including Snow Leopard.
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Well, the problem I have with my XP machine at work is how long it takes from the login screen to actually having full control of my computer so that I can actually do work. Windows "boots" but then does all this stuff in the background that prevents me from actually opening programs and start working. And this is a machine with all the security bells and whistles and with minimal non-essential apps installed on there.

You have to be precise about what you're measuring if you're gonna be comparing Apples to Apples.
 
dongmin said:
Well, the problem I have with my XP machine at work is how long it takes from the login screen to actually having full control of my computer so that I can actually do work. Windows "boots" but then does all this stuff in the background that prevents me from actually opening programs and start working. And this is a machine with all the security bells and whistles and with minimal non-essential apps installed on there.

You have to be precise about what you're measuring if you're gonna be comparing Apples to Apples.
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Situations like this can benefit from good registry tools, such as a cleaner, but also a defragmentation, as mentioned earlier. If this isn't adequate, then it might be worth looking into the HDD before considering a new machine (assuming it's fine for the usage otherwise).
 
At this point Microsoft should just be happy that the thing boots. I can remember my first few window computers freezing all the time, right in the middle of booting. So many nightmares. :D
 
js81 said:
If you're going to be away from an outlet for a while and don't want your battery to die in its sleep, then you may just shut it off and boot up when you need it. That's what I did with my old Dell (who's battery wouldn't last through a day in sleep, even when it was new).
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Good point. Didn't consider that. I am always near an outlet. Except when traveling to/from work. And that generally doesn't take more than 2 hours.
 
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