Windows 7 via USB external hard drive on Macbook Pro

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  1. carl0sian macrumors regular

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    Hello all. I just bought a 17" 2011 Macbook pro. This laptop is amazing! Only downside is that some apps I used to use are not available on OSX Lion like TsMuxer. I have a Dell 1525 laptop with Windows 7 already installed. Is it possible to take that hard drive out, put it in an external hard drive usb enclosure and use it to boot up Windows 7 on my MacBook Pro? I have a 256mb SSD drive on my MBP and do not want to partition the drive specifically for Windows 7 since I am barely going to use it.


    Thanks in advance!!
     
  2. diazj3, Dec 8, 2011
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    diazj3 macrumors 6502a

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    Sorry, it's not possible... you can't boot to a Windows drive/partition through USB. What I'd recommend is to use a virtualization software to run that specific windows app, under OS X (not bootcamp). Of course, using Parallels, VMWare or VirtualBox (free), is not as fast/efficient as running the app under bootcamp... plus the VM sw, Windows OS, and the app itself, might take some good space from your rather limited SSD, and you might incur in some extra cost due to the VM sw license and the extra Windows license... but you can, however, place the VM (virtual machine) on a USB drive, and access it there though.

    Most VM apps help you migrate your current windows files to a virtualized environment.

    Hope this helps. Cheers!


    EDIT: I researched this a bit, since everyday cleverer users find new ways to do things... it appears some users have been able to do it, but it seems a bit complicated. Here's what I found. I'd go the VM route anyway.
     
  3. carl0sian thread starter macrumors regular

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    Thanks for the information diazj3. I downloaded the free trail version of VMWare 4. I was trying to setup a Windows 7 install but I could not change the settings to make it install to an external disk source. It wants to install Windows 7 on my SDD HD and take up to 60gig of space which I can't afford to lose. Is there a way to install Windows 7 to an external disk source via VMWare? If so, how?



    Thanks!
     
  4. diazj3, Dec 10, 2011
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    diazj3 macrumors 6502a

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    ok, four things...

    First, since the Windows based software you want to run virtually is video related, most likely power intensive, I'd recommend Parallels 7 over VMWare, as it has better performance according to benchmarks.

    Secondly, yes: you have to install Parallels as any app on your boot drive, along the Virtual Machine containing windows and the video app in your user folder, as it does by default. Then, once installed and working ok, you copy the Virtual Machine file from your Documents folder, to the external drive (the external USB must be mac-formatted for better results). Open the VM on the external drive using Parallels. Once you're sure it works, you can delete the VM on your boot SSD drive (thus, reclaiming the space lost by the Windows install), and use the one on the external USB. The Parallels app must remain on your app folder, as any app.

    Third... have you thought about installing a second hard drive in your MBP? since your SSD is so small (for today's average needs anyway), I'm guessing you'll be struggling over space very often. A second drive - replacing your optical drive, and keeping the optical drive in an external USB enclosure - will let you use the SSD as a boot drive, keeping the speed of your apps... and a high-capacity high-speed rotational drive with your user files will give you the space you need, at much greater speed than any USB external. Check this out for more info. It's worth the investment (and btw, I don't work for OWC).

    And finally, if you don’t want the data doubler solution (by far the most efficient) I'd recommend to think about investing on a Firewire / eSATA external drive (you'll need a dedicated expresscard for eSATA, which your 17" is equipped to handle). USB 2.0 is way too slow. Internal>external eSATA>Firewire>USB 2.0. There are portable, bus powered Firewire and eSata enclosures that will do much better. They are a bit more expensive than USB, but much much faster as work drives. There are some USB 3.0 enclosures and expresscards too, but I'm not familiar with them, and since OS X doesn't support USB 3.0 officially yet, they might raise some issues.

    Hope that helps.

    cheers!
     

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