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Windows Applications On Mac, Without Windows

chris200x9 said:
Isn't this bad?....I could be wrong but doesnt running widows apps nativley on OS X....open it up to windows viruses?
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No, because it isn't running Windows and wouldn't affect OS X at all. This is limited, but promising. I doubt it would the death of the Mac, quite the opposite really. As nagromme mentioned, more people would be buying Macs so demand for native software goes up. Even better if Apple could make some sort of conversion app like they have with xCode. Companies would be able to recompile their Windows apps to run on Macs and PCs. True Universal. And even if they didn't, if they could somehow get this to work better, we wouldn't need special apps for Macs. They'd run just like they did on Windows, only you wouldn't need Windows.

Ironic that OS X may run some older Windows apps better than Vista.
 
Brandon Sharitt said:
For OS X, it doesn't seem quite as critical. Some of the most mentioned programed used on Linux WINE are Office, Photoshop, Dreamweaver, and iTunes, all of which are natively availble on OS X. Sure Half Life 2 might be nice, but the product doesn't seem as needed on OS X.
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Don't know about you but I don't have half a grand to blow on a second copy of office, Photoshop, etc. :rolleyes:
 
LieutenantLefse said:
Running apps under Codeweavers/WINE will never be as stable, seamless, and full speed as a natively developed app. WINE is a complete rewrite of all the Windows APIs - it needs to match every feature and every bug in Windows exactly, or software will break. The WINE developers have made some fantastic progress, but it's slow going and every time it comes close to being usable, Microsoft releases a new version of Windows.
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Hmmm, that's a fairly good point... However, if a switcher intends to use Codeweavers/WINE with the same purpose as an established Mac user would use Classic circa '01-'05, that doesn't really matter, does it? Most likely, that would be a last resort solution for running *old* software. And also, don't forget, if Mac marketshare grows dramatically (which could happen if these solutions become popular, as Parallels is already endorsed by Apple), developers may just start to port some Windows-only apps to the Mac... Maybe, just maybe... :cool:
 
This is excellent. Lots of sites support only Internet Explorer (6.0, not the worthless 4.0 for Mac that can't even display most languages). This solution offers a great way to just open up explorer when you have to, in order to check that site that doesn't support firefox/safari. It's also a great thing for developers, who probably have too much stuff open as it is, and jut wanna check their site in Internet Explorer, but don't have enough resources to run Parallels.

Microsoft Office is a blessing for Hebrew users like me (or Arabic/Greek/lots of others), because Microsoft Office for Mac doesn't support right-to-left languages.
 
SiliconAddict said:
Don't know about you but I don't have half a grand to blow on a second copy of office, Photoshop, etc. :rolleyes:
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Adobe used to offer cross platform upgrades. MS, probably not so much, but Teach and Student is available for around the price of an upgrade when they come out. Go take a class at the local community college, it counts. :p
 
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Is there at least a tentative list of the "approved" apps? My needs are pretty specific working in EDU. I HAVE all the apps I need on Mac. The Win-specific apps I need will probably NOT be supported, like some athletic trainer programs and a nifty data analyzer I've forgotten the name of. Otherwise it is of no use to me.
 
Hector said:
yeah, but the thing is darwine doesn't work without spending a day trying to config it.
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And at the end of the day you have no support for DarWine beyond forums like MR...

Crossover Office = Wine with some packaging, optimizations and support and the company is essentially the main developers behind Wine.

An excellent choice for people who may need to just run an existing license of QuickBooks or something like that.

Note too that the list of supported apps doesn't mean that's all that works, it just means that those apps are specficially tested for and supported, I've personally run a number of other programs on Crossover Office for Linux that are not on the list...

Now i'm really torn. I've already got Boot Camp working, but intended to buy Parallels or Crossover Office too. To let the Parallels discount expire or not...

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yeah, i've been running through them, i'll do some more tomorrow and post results.
 
Hector said:
yeah, i've been running through them, i'll do some more tomorrow and post results.
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Sorry to....be off topic-ish.

But how did you install it? I downloaded it and it comes as a text file ... and opens in text edit. what is a **.sh file suppose to open in? AHH I wanna install it :(
 
markkk! said:
Sorry to....be off topic-ish.

But how did you install it? I downloaded it and it comes as a text file ... and opens in text edit. what is a **.sh file suppose to open in? AHH I wanna install it :(
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what did you download? if wine may god help you

if crossover it's just a disk image with an app in it, it's pretty self explanatory
 
markkk! said:
how did you sign up for beta testing :mad:
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I don't usually say this, but... RTFA. Nah, I'm joking. :D

Can I sign up for the Beta Test program?

Yes, but we have a backlog of testers. The best way to sign up for the Beta Test group is to email info@codeweavers.com and request access to the beta. Please be aware that we already have a very large pool of testers and so your request may not be accepted. We will respond to all requests.
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The thing you downloaded was likely the Crossover Office Standard Trial for linux, which comes as a shell script that you execute from the terminal. :)
 
Seems Useless

This seems kinda useless to me. Most of the applications on the supported list have been ported to Mac OS X and the ones that aren't have Mac alternatives. Also Microsoft will almost indefinitely introduce "Genuine Windows" crap on all their future software which will not work in this Crossover environment or w/e since it is based on WINE.
 
Lixivial said:
I don't usually say this, but... RTFA. Nah, I'm joking. :D



The thing you downloaded was likely the Crossover Office Standard Trial for linux, which comes as a shell script that you execute from the terminal. :)
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Yeah, I sent an email I just kinda wondered how he got the link so fast. I figured out what I downloaded was a linux thing later :eek:

but GEEEZ I just wanna run some Windows stuff without parallels or bootcamp or something.
 
bwintx said:
You're right on the money. After looking at the Codeweavers Web site and looking through the list of apps supported by this and its Linux counterpart, it quickly becomes clear that this is great for Linux -- for which Microsoft Office and such are unlikely to occur in the next few years, if ever -- but is only marginally useful for OS X.

Still think the Parallels approach is the way to go. Now, it's a question of whether something like that is built into Leopard or Apple decides not to step on the developer. Perhaps we'll know by early afternoon on August 7.
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Who says you have to choose one or the other? :) I'm going to run Parallels for most of my work because that sort of stuff (Windows Mobile dev) won't be usable in any WINE type environment. But I'd use CodeWeavers for Half-Life 2 definitely. And maybe Office 2007 over Entourage. Plus I have my own Windows apps - FlexWallet 2006 that I'd want to run and I'd prefer to use my QuickBooks 2006 for Windows on OS X (the Mac version just doesn't do anything for me vis a vis payroll).
 
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