Windows on Mac and Mac OS X on PCs?

[wasimyaqoob]

I wouldnt dare to use Mac OS X on a Dell PC, for example - IT just ruins everything. Just look at how UGLY Dell systems are and how beautiful Mac Products are... no no no - This is a bad move, Mac = Mac, Windows = UGLY.

Stay seperate.

 

[jhu]

I wouldnt dare to use Mac OS X on a Dell PC, for example - IT just ruins everything. Just look at how UGLY Dell systems are and how beautiful Mac Products are... no no no - This is a bad move, Mac = Mac, Windows = UGLY.

Stay seperate.

yet another mac elitist...

 

[janstett]

I wouldnt dare to use Mac OS X on a Dell PC, for example - IT just ruins everything. Just look at how UGLY Dell systems are and how beautiful Mac Products are... no no no - This is a bad move, Mac = Mac, Windows = UGLY.

Stay seperate.

Do you look at your computer or do you use it? Are you the type of guy who shows up at Starbucks with your Powerbook for an afternoon of caffeinated pretentious lounging?

I have OSX on a Gateway, but it's shoved under my desk and I can't see it. Is that OK?

There are PCs that have nice designs. The Dell XPS for example isn't bad. I'm partial to IBM Thinkpads. Sony has some innovative designs too.

BTW, I hate to break it to you, but Apple uses the same suppliers to make their equipment. For example the Powerbooks and Mac Minis are made by Foxconn, which also does Gateway, Dell, et al.

 

[janstett]

If the goal of their ad is to win new customers (current PC users), then insulting them about their "dullness" is not getting off to a friendly start.

Exactly. Imagine if Mercedes ran smug advertisements saying "your car sucks, buy one of ours". Instead they rely on their cachet and imply superiority without forcing one's jaw agape and shoving it in with a plunger.

 

[yankeefan24]

There are PCs that have nice designs. The Dell XPS for example isn't bad. I'm partial to IBM Thinkpads. Sony has some innovative designs too.

if i ever had to get a windows laptop, i would get a sony or an IBM (now lenovo). Dual-booting with a mac or at least Virtual Mac (virtual pc for windows, but preferably dual boot) would be my savior. I have a bad feeling that i might need a windows laptop by mid 2007 (i know a long time), but i don't want my days with Mac OS X to be numbered. I have said numerous times that OS X is what keeps my buying ibooks/powerbooks which have had the same design for a long time. I refuse to buy another apple laptop that is NOT redesigned.

 

[Photorun]

There are PCs that have nice designs. The Dell XPS for example isn't bad. I'm partial to IBM Thinkpads. Sony has some innovative designs too.

Let me guess, you're a humor writer, something to do with humor industry, stand up comic? Genius I say, GENIUS!

 

[Photorun]

I refuse to buy another apple laptop that is NOT redesigned.

Let me guess, you play small violins? Something to do with small something?

And hey how about them Yankees? Oh, that's right, George has more money than god and can use the entire league as his farm team and they still suck! Bwahahahaha!!!

 

[yankeefan24]

Let me guess, you play small violins? Something to do with small something?

And hey how about them Yankees? Oh, that's right, George has more money than god and can use the entire league as his farm team and they still suck! Bwahahahaha!!!

guessing your a mets or red sox fan.

I am saying that i think that for me $2000 is too much for a laptop that looks the same as what im using. part of the reason is that i don't need that power, or NEED a new laptop. An example i like to use is would you buy a BMW the first year it came out, and then buy the version on the last year of the design which is the same except for a more powerful engine, a camera, and different exhaust places (engine = core duo, camera = camera, exhaust places = cooling area)? I don't think so. apple will soon update their designs (the current has been around for years) and i dont need the power of a MBP and don't feel that for me its worth getting it when i wont notice a major difference in doing things like typing on MR.

 

[jhu]

Let me guess, you're a humor writer, something to do with humor industry, stand up comic? Genius I say, GENIUS!

let me guess, you're a fanboy

 

[bbyrdhouse]

If that's what you want to call it.. then yeah, I agree. But, where I work, no Mac OS is allowed to join the corporate network... hence, the freaken Acer I am typing this on.

Where do you work?...Microsoft.

 

[bbyrdhouse]

If the goal of their ad is to win new customers (current PC users), then insulting them about their "dullness" is not getting off to a friendly start.

Instead, how about an ad telling about the Mac's relative freedom from viruses/spyware and the other PC plagues. I know someone who bought a Mac just for internet use. The PC is left disconnected from the net, for business apps only.

I have to say that a great deal of PC users will not feel "insulted" or "offended" by this ad. Perhaps many will, but there are numerous people who do get frustrated with their PC. I recently converted a family member to Mac (iMac coreDuo) and it did not take any convincing at all. When the saw Frontrow in action, and the built in camera, the all-in-one design, the lack of 40-11 cables, they suddenly felt like their PC was "Dull" to say the least.

I also have a co-worker who will probably switch to Mac in the next year because he has seen me use my 1.67 G4 PowerBook and do tasks much quicker and with more ease than his 2.8 P4 Dell 9100. Although his laptop is a fine machine and has plenty of horse power and is fully capable of most any task with the right software, but compared to the PowerBook it just seems "Dull".

I think most people will percieve the ads as "Hey, I knew my computer could do more or be faster" than to feel insulted.
The truth is that most people might know of "Apple" they don't have an opportunity to see them or use them therefore they buy whatever the sales-guy at Best-Buy tells them is a good deal.

 

[brettbolt]

I have to say that a great deal of PC users will not feel "insulted" or "offended" by this ad. Perhaps many will, but there are numerous people who do get frustrated with their PC. ...

I probably could have chosen a better word than "insulted". Still, I don't like the tone of the ad and I'm not alone.

How about an ad where they show a poor PC user tearing his hair out over a virus or spyware infection, and next to him a Mac user who's relaxed and running some interesting iApp. They wouldn't even need to say a word, and it would be a dramatic and effective ad.

 

[janstett]

Let me guess, you're a humor writer, something to do with humor industry, stand up comic? Genius I say, GENIUS!

I know it's hard for you to take off your blinders. Give it a try sometime. There is more to the world than Apple.

The Dell XPS I have under my desk is every bit as well designed and easy to open up as a G5. They have done their homework (finally).

The Thinkpads are a classic design (essentially the same and timeless, but continually refined and improved; how many designs has Apple been through in the same timeframe), and they offer a true range of products. My ultraportable X40 weights 3.2 lbs and with the secondary battery I can go for 6-8 hours on a single charge. And they added a tablet version of the same (X41) months ago. Don't forget past innovations like the trackpoint or the expanding butterfly keyboard from several years ago. The modular ultrabay slim architecture is something Apple hasn't even tried to tackle. I'd throw my X40 up against a 12" Powerbook any day and it wouldn't even be a contest, Apple is beaten even when they get a Core Solo 12" product. Apple isn't even contending in this segment.

Sony I would say the same with their ultraportables, the media slice designs, etc. Not to mention the use of carbon fiber and composites; they're also pulling a page from Apple's past with different lid colors.

Apple really doesn't even compete in the ultraportable area so maybe this isn't fair.

But should I continue with the complete lack of media slices from Apple for the ultraportable segment? Or how about the complete lack of any kind of docking architecture for Mac notebooks? I'm not looking forward to reconnecting power, mouse, display, and network every time I move my upcoming MacBook Pro when it could be one single slot.

I'm not here to bash Apple -- I have a MacBook Pro shipping this week. But I also have other machines and I'm not licking Steve Jobs' boots. Apple has some good points, a lot of good points (say the slot loading DVD for starters), but it has a lot of weaknesses. Unlike you, I play in the larger world of all manufacturers and have actual EXPERIENCE with them. Sorry if any of that offends your religious beliefs but the world is not flat.

That's the big problem with getting "switchers" -- they've seen the world outside of Plato's cave and spoil the illusion for those who were born in it. Sorry, Neo, you should have taken the blue pill.

 

[MacMusicMan69]

But you don't get Iapp suite

I know it's hard for you to take off your blinders. Give it a try sometime. There is more to the world than Apple.

The Dell XPS I have under my desk is every bit as well designed and easy to open up as a G5. They have done their homework (finally).

The Thinkpads are a classic design (essentially the same and timeless, but continually refined and improved; how many designs has Apple been through in the same timeframe), and they offer a true range of products. My ultraportable X40 weights 3.2 lbs and with the secondary battery I can go for 6-8 hours on a single charge. And they added a tablet version of the same (X41) months ago. Don't forget past innovations like the trackpoint or the expanding butterfly keyboard from several years ago. The modular ultrabay slim architecture is something Apple hasn't even tried to tackle. I'd throw my X40 up against a 12" Powerbook any day and it wouldn't even be a contest, Apple is beaten even when they get a Core Solo 12" product. Apple isn't even contending in this segment.

Sony I would say the same with their ultraportables, the media slice designs, etc. Not to mention the use of carbon fiber and composites; they're also pulling a page from Apple's past with different lid colors.

Apple really doesn't even compete in the ultraportable area so maybe this isn't fair.

But should I continue with the complete lack of media slices from Apple for the ultraportable segment? Or how about the complete lack of any kind of docking architecture for Mac notebooks? I'm not looking forward to reconnecting power, mouse, display, and network every time I move my upcoming MacBook Pro when it could be one single slot.

I'm not here to bash Apple -- I have a MacBook Pro shipping this week. But I also have other machines and I'm not licking Steve Jobs' boots. Apple has some good points, a lot of good points (say the slot loading DVD for starters), but it has a lot of weaknesses. Unlike you, I play in the larger world of all manufacturers and have actual EXPERIENCE with them. Sorry if any of that offends your religious beliefs but the world is not flat.

That's the big problem with getting "switchers" -- they've seen the world outside of Plato's cave and spoil the illusion for those who were born in it. Sorry, Neo, you should have taken the blue pill.

It's not the parts it's the OS
Windows on MAC
are these people masochists
I can understand OS X on PC
but Windows is just Spyware
I took the Red Pill and saw Microsoft Is the Matrix

 

[MeatBiProduct]

Right. And just how much of that is crappy shareware or one of fifty different buggy little apps designed to do the exact same thing in slightly different, yet equally quirky ways? There's a lot of redundancy in the Windows software world.

Doom 3 wasn't a buggy app
Civilization IV wasn't a buggy app
Farcry wasn't buggy, just sucks up all the power
The list of titles goes on and on and on and on.

Does shareware exist anymore? I mean come the F on it isn't 1980 with wolfenstein making the rounds on floppy. There are a ton of awesome games out on PC that aren't buggy. Quit drinking the hater aid. There is a lot of redundancy so you have CHOICES. WOW - you mean I can choose from A or B, you mean that A isn't the only solution ?????

Keep living in and under the rocks.

 

[bosrs1]

yet another mac elitist...

Is there any other kind of Mac user?

 

[bosrs1]

I know it's hard for you to take off your blinders. Give it a try sometime. There is more to the world than Apple.

The Dell XPS I have under my desk is every bit as well designed and easy to open up as a G5. They have done their homework (finally).

The Thinkpads are a classic design (essentially the same and timeless, but continually refined and improved; how many designs has Apple been through in the same timeframe), and they offer a true range of products. My ultraportable X40 weights 3.2 lbs and with the secondary battery I can go for 6-8 hours on a single charge. And they added a tablet version of the same (X41) months ago. Don't forget past innovations like the trackpoint or the expanding butterfly keyboard from several years ago. The modular ultrabay slim architecture is something Apple hasn't even tried to tackle. I'd throw my X40 up against a 12" Powerbook any day and it wouldn't even be a contest, Apple is beaten even when they get a Core Solo 12" product. Apple isn't even contending in this segment.

Sony I would say the same with their ultraportables, the media slice designs, etc. Not to mention the use of carbon fiber and composites; they're also pulling a page from Apple's past with different lid colors.

Apple really doesn't even compete in the ultraportable area so maybe this isn't fair.

But should I continue with the complete lack of media slices from Apple for the ultraportable segment? Or how about the complete lack of any kind of docking architecture for Mac notebooks? I'm not looking forward to reconnecting power, mouse, display, and network every time I move my upcoming MacBook Pro when it could be one single slot.

I'm not here to bash Apple -- I have a MacBook Pro shipping this week. But I also have other machines and I'm not licking Steve Jobs' boots. Apple has some good points, a lot of good points (say the slot loading DVD for starters), but it has a lot of weaknesses. Unlike you, I play in the larger world of all manufacturers and have actual EXPERIENCE with them. Sorry if any of that offends your religious beliefs but the world is not flat.

That's the big problem with getting "switchers" -- they've seen the world outside of Plato's cave and spoil the illusion for those who were born in it. Sorry, Neo, you should have taken the blue pill.

I'm sorry, but if you think Thinkpads are good you're smoking a wee little too much crack. I work in IT and we get out of 200 Thinkpads in the company no less then 6 a week with crapped out moboards.

 

[janstett]

I'm sorry, but if you think Thinkpads are good you're smoking a wee little too much crack. I work in IT and we get out of 200 Thinkpads in the company no less then 6 a week with crapped out moboards.

I own 2 of them right now. One is a P3 1GHz that I bought in 2000. Since 2002 it has been on 24/7 as my media server and download mule. No problems. In the same time my Mac Mini got fried, destroyed the motherboard, ram, and optical drive, luckily it was still within the 1 year warranty.

So, yes, I do think they're good.

I've never met an IT person who thinks any computer is good, cause all you see are the problem ones.

And if you have 200 thinkpads and 6 a week get fried, tell your people to stop using them in the hot tub. That would mean you destroy your entire population of laptops in 30 weeks on average. What the hell are your people doing, and why would you put up with such frustration and not try another brand? Or, could there be a slight exaggeration in your story?