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Why is the article listing Cortana being as a "Siri Competitor"? It's not like either personal assistant will work on each other's phone and I would have a hard time believing that anyone would choose a phone because one virtual assistant is a little better than the other.
 
I have never even seen passbook in action, in any situation. Evidently, I fly on the wrong airlines, take the wrong taxis and drink the wrong coffee.

I used it last year while flying American Airlines. It was great to see the boarding passes just pop up on the lockscreen about a half hour before boarding. It also works whenever I'm near a Kroger grocery store. I'm looking forward to seeing it work for concert tickets.
 
Windows Phone 8.1 Adds Support for Apple's Passbook Passes

I use passbook at least once a week. My most frequent passes used are Walgreens and Target, but I also use Ticketmaster, American Airlines, and Starbucks. Southwest Airlines will have mobile boarding pass support soon, which I assume will include passbook support. I recently bought eight spring training baseball tickets on TM, and it allowed me to use mobile ticketing with passbook support. It was cool because I was able to AirDrop the other tickets to my friends from passbook.



Anyway, I'm for the added support on other platforms.

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now it needs to adopt facetime technology and start platform-free services. Theres not reason we all cant work together.
 
different services. MS cloud services are akin to Amazon's, theyre backend servers for notifications, etc. Gruber has not replaced icloud with them -- if you believe that you have a misunderstanding of what they do.



I know, I was making a joke. Should've put a /s at the end, sorry.
 
Sounds more like you follow versus lead. If your phone has perfectly working video and chat apps built into it, why would you download another app and create a new account to do the same thing? Now if all your buddies are on Android then I guess you need to follow them and be on it too. You could also just use all Google services on your iPhone which it sounds like what you are doing now.

Sounds like you don't have many friends. For those of us that do, let me explain how it works.

If I go to a group of 5 of my friends, all of whom use Google Hangouts and tell them I won't talk to them unless they all go out and buy a $600+ phone and Facetime me, how do you think things will play out?
 
I actually sent in suggestions, to the loyalty/discount card companies I use the most, that they might want to take advantage of Passbook in the future. It couldn't hurt, and maybe I can get some of these cards out of my wallet.
 
Sounds like you don't have many friends. For those of us that do, let me explain how it works.

If I go to a group of 5 of my friends, all of whom use Google Hangouts and tell them I won't talk to them unless they all go out and buy a $600+ phone and Facetime me, how do you think things will play out?

Sounds like Google Hangouts it is. I see an Android phone in your future,

oh and I do have friends, the way it works for us is we all just use the standard texting app. If we all want to see each other, we actually meet up and HANGOUT! Imagine that.
 
Sounds like Google Hangouts it is. I see an Android phone in your future,

oh and I do have friends, the way it works for us is we all just use the standard texting app. If we all want to see each other, we actually meet up and HANGOUT! Imagine that.

What if I told you that some people have friends that live far away (what do you think the point of video chat is :rolleyes:) ?

Mind blowing concept, isn't it?
 
The MS and Apple love fest continues!

Next up: MS Cloud services replaces iCloud ...

Think of it as being like the Cold War. On the one side, you have the supply model used by Apple and Microsoft. On the other, you have the disruptive supply model used by Google and Facebook. So, you now have Office for iPad and, apparently Passbook comparability on WinPho. If I'm right, we won't be seeing Office for Android Tablet anytime soon :D.

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I think that Apple would be smart to do that, iCloud is weak.

There's room for both.
 
This.

I've started using Hangouts on my iPhone 'cause everyone else is starting to use it. I've *never* used Facetime. (facepalm for you, Apple)

Apple needs to open up their stuff or they're going right back to the '90s where I abandoned them for almost 20 years.

That's interesting, being that in the 90s, they were the most open they've ever been...
 
I read this as, "Microsoft reverse engineers Passbook format," not, "Apple opens Passbook format up to Microsoft et. al."
Not much need to reverse engineer, since the file format is well documented.
There's nothing here that says Apple won't wield this as a weapon against Microsoft. For example, they can release new extensions to the format every year, which means there will be a brief period where Microsoft's implementation is behind and unable to process newer Passbook files.
Perhaps. But remember that, in contrast to e.g. Office file formats, Passbook files are supposed to be created by many 3rd parties and not just by Apple products, so they cannot simply change the format in ways that break compatibility with existing Passbooks. Of course they can introduce extensions, but those may be of limited relevance to MS (e.g. Passbook has recently been extended to support iBeacon-based geofencing, which is currently not supported by Windows Phone).
 
Displaying a pass is one thing, that's not very hard, but keeping them updated requires Apple's push notifications, which MS doesn't have access to, or constantly polling the server for updates, which is likely to get throttled.

Probably most passes never get updated, they are static, so that may not be a huge loss, be interesting to see if your starbucks pass updates a few seconds after you use it on windows mobile like it supposedly does on iPhone.

I hope also that on windows the pass signatures are being properly verified as signed with an Apple generated signing resource or we're going to have an explosion of bogus passes. I'm sure they wouldn't miss out that step.
 
I have never even seen passbook in action, in any situation. Evidently, I fly on the wrong airlines, take the wrong taxis and drink the wrong coffee.

and don't shop at the right stores, or have attended the right events. It's weird that while some people have never been able to use Passbook, others like myself have had numerous opportunities.

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Actually, Apple use Microsoft Azure and Amazon for some iCloud services,
You can see it on your mac using Little Snitch or HandOff.

Which services are using MS or Amazon?
 
Why no love for Passbook on iPad?

Great. Now all we need is Passbook to work on the iPad.

Unbelievable that it doesn't.
 
Think of it as being like the Cold War. On the one side, you have the supply model used by Apple and Microsoft. On the other, you have the disruptive supply model used by Google and Facebook. So, you now have Office for iPad and, apparently Passbook comparability on WinPho. If I'm right, we won't be seeing Office for Android Tablet anytime soon :D.

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There's room for both.

We're going to see Microsoft Office on Android tablets.
 
I actually welcome this. I'm surprised how few places, relatively speaking, have made use of this.

I have a ton of club cards and, for now, I am forced to use an app called card star. It's a rather wonderful app, and in some ways better than passbook for club cards (in that it is login based so my entire family has access to our club cards now), but I wouldn't mind getting rid of it in favor of passbook. As often as we shop both passbook and card star on front and center of my first page.
 
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