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vamp07 said:
Both these work just fine. I think you may need to restart the app before it will let you pick the CD to boot from it. Bridging to the wireless network card en1 works just fine too. I have boot camp and Parallel installed but for almost everything I will use parallel. May end up uninstalling Boot camp.
I got it recognizing the CD ROM drive by disabling and reenabling the CDROM from the preferences. This caused the Use real CD/DVD drive option to be ungreyed, and I was able to access it by entering /dev/rdisk1. You need to insert the CD/DVD before running the Workstation.
 
rumbletum said:
Are you using it on a MBP or an iMac? The official line is that it doesn't work with Airport, but like yourself some on the Parallel forums reckon they have it working, though people like myself with iMacs don't seem to be able to get it working.

I may try it with my MBP later, to see if I have any joy there.

I'm on a MacBook Pro. It didn't want to work at first, I switched the bridging to en1 and it wouldn't pull an IP and it said it was connected at 10 megabit. After restarting the entire Parallels application, it was working correctly. For a beta release, I have no complaints, though I think I'll wait a bit after release to buy it and see what competition it has. The major upside for me over the Boot Camp is that two-finger scrolling works inside Parallels.
 
LagunaSol said:
Oh, and I personally happen to use two feet to work the three pedals. Maybe I'm just weird that way. ;)

Hmm.. how would you release the clutch when breaking with 1 foot ;-)
Btw., I personally happen to use 5 fingers to operate my mouse ;-)
 
BillyShears said:
Argh, yes that answers it... in the negative. :( Maybe I will hold off until I hear some confirmation of it working.

(You are trying to ping the Windows IP address from the OS X terminal right?)


In beta 2 sharing works just fine.
 
That's not the case with VMWare either. I use and I can create as many VMs as I want, add, delete, edit, etc. I have not run into a limit.

David

savar said:
If its $50 to create as many virtual machines as you want, that is an amazing deal. Isn't VMWare the opposite -- each VM is add'l money?

Also, regarding control of the video card. Can you switch Windows to full screen, and if so, can it monopolize the video card in that configuration? Adding a 2nd vid card (and monitor, I presume?) to play games in Windows seems a little flaky.
 
Since "virtualization" is "emulation" your question is?

vamp07 said:
Does anybody know if vmawre uses virtualization or is it purely emulation?
A "virtual computer" is an emulation of a "real computer" - so your question doesn't make complete sense.

I can guess, however, that the question that you're really asking is:

Does VMware use the hardware assist of VT to help with the emulation of privileged instructions, or does it use the older software-only techniques (what VMware calls "binary translation") to keep the emulated virtual machine from modifying the state of the host CPU?

And the answer is that currently released VMware products do not use VT in the same manner as Parallels. Future versions of all virtualization solutions will definitely support VT - it is an imperative.

VMware does require Intel chips with VT in order to support 64-bit guest operating systems (Windows x64, Linux x64...) - but that's more of a side effect than true VT support like Parallels just introduced. (A feature needed for VM support was missing from early Intel x64 chips, but was added at the same time that VT was added.)
 
Hmmm.

If VMWare is currently using the same "binary translating" technology as Virtual PC is, I wonder why Virtual PC feels like such a dog doing its job and VMWare seems to fly?
 
aristobrat said:
Hmmm.

If VMWare is currently using the same "binary translating" technology as Virtual PC is, I wonder why Virtual PC feels like such a dog doing its job and VMWare seems to fly?
VMware (ESX/GSX/Wrkstn), Virtual PC, and Virtual Server all seem roughly the same speed to me.

A bit slower than native, but usually not enough slower that one would care. For loads with lots of small I/O operations - they all drag a bit, though.

With VT, they should all be closer to native on more applications.
 
Does the audio work for anyone in Parallels. Networking from my airport works fine, but I can't hear any sound. :(
 
powerbook911 said:
Does the audio work for anyone in Parallels. Networking from my airport works fine, but I can't hear any sound. :(


I think they said they would have it working before shipping.
 
AidenShaw said:
A bit slower than native, but usually not enough slower that one would care. For loads with lots of small I/O operations - they all drag a bit, though.
I'm fairly patient, but using Microsoft Money on Virtual PC was impossible. The experience was nowhere near like running Money on a VMWare Workstation instance. Maybe Virtual PC has to go thru an extra step to deal with in regards to converting Intel instructions to PPC before it can 'binary translate' them?

Doesn't matter. My PB's going on eBay and I'm more than satisified with Parallel's Workstation.
 
Windows XP on Intel iMac 20"

Well, I did it. Parallels Workstation is installed at 11:30 pm Eastern time on 4-9-06. I will let you know tomarrow how it works. I hope I don't need to replace my 5-week old iMac!
 
ISA emulation is slow, Virtual PC is not

aristobrat said:
I'm fairly patient, but using Microsoft Money on Virtual PC was impossible. The experience was nowhere near like running Money on a VMWare Workstation instance. Maybe Virtual PC has to go thru an extra step to deal with in regards to converting Intel instructions to PPC before it can 'binary translate' them?

Doesn't matter. My PB's going on eBay and I'm more than satisified with Parallel's Workstation.
If you're comparing VPC/Mac on PPC with VMware on x86 - there's no comparison. There's also no "binary translation" as VMware defines it in VPC/Mac - the entire x86 ISA is emulated. This is much slower than VMware, Parallels and VPC/Windows which do x86 on x86 and only need to emulate some privileged state instructions.

Virtual PC/Windows performs at about the same speed as VMware - since there is no need to do full ISA emulation.

"Binary translation" involves modifying the virtual machine code pages on the fly, to make sure that privileged instructions "do the right thing". The "risky" instructions are replaced with calls into the VMM - the Virtual Machine Monitor that runs on the host and manages the VM. The VMM then emulates the privileged instruction.

For example, if in the virtual machine you click "Start -> Shutdown" a bunch of x86 instructions are executed, ending in some x86 instructions that turn the electricity off. You obviously don't want this to shut off the real computer, so the VMM intercepts those "power off" instructions and instead puts the emulated virtual machine into a powered off state while leaving the real computer on.

"VT" (Intel's Virtualization Technology, and AMD's very similar Pacifica) runs the processor in a mode where it simply refuses to execute those instructions and traps into the VMM where the instruction can be emulated. This is faster, since there's no need to scan code pages for suspect instructions.

So, "VT" isn't some wonderful magic, it's better to think of it as hardware acceleration for one of the tasks associated with emulating a virtual machine. VMware with VT and VMware without VT will still be mostly the same thing - just faster with VT.

VT will also enable some new ways of virtualization that today are usually called "para-virtualization". There's a lot of excitement about the new possibilities - for example Microsoft is embedding virtualization deep into the OS with Viridian.
 
parallel on mac osx

Well I just installed parallel on my imac and i'm impressed. Like the idea of staying inside OSX and running XP when I'm not sure how to do it in Mac.

Installed XP with SP1 and doing updates with no issues.

Noticed a little on performance hit while in XP, but still pretty decent. When ahead an preordered the newer version. Will be interesting when Leopard comes out how it does.

Going to try loading parallel on my nini-duo next.
 
Apple down in stock prices

Figures, bought a few Apple shares and now the stock price goes down almost 10 dollars from last week :-(

I know, wait wait, but wanted to whine at bit...

Once the boot camp or paralelles takes off, I can see more people switching to Mac. We're learning Mac and enjoying it but there are a few blips that would turn off people.

Like lack of resizing windows except at bottom right corner, unable to rename shortcuts to other computers and a few of the same icons showing up on the bar below while trying to figure out how to install something. Then closing it on the "X" and it just shrinks to the toolbar till one right clicks and picks QUIT.

Fighting adding a windows shared printer at the moment...

Tried smb://login,password@computer/sharedprinter

any other ideas? It shows the shared folders in Network, but not the shared Brother printer.
 
windows copying

I will be getting an imac with intel in the future
The only reason i'd have to put windows on it would be to play old/new games that aren't available on mac. Supreme Commander i'm talking about.
Basically Total Annihiliation 2. Same guy - Christ Taylor, due out late this year/early next.

That said i don't think ms. will be getting money out of me, nor many mac users if they can find xp..etc from somewhere/someone else for nothing...

What i was trying to say with this thread title was that windows has ripped off (yet again) Apple and added 'Desktop Search' to xp. What's that you say?... Spotlight on Mac OSX remind you of something???? yes i thought so

lame ms.
pretty soon they'll have made their own **** version of Dashboard
 
aristobrat said:
Leave it to MS to have their site totally blow up in Safari. Perhaps another example of writing their own rules and not sticking to HTML standards? Jeez. You would think they would go out of their way to make it work right in Safari in hopes of bringing back any switchers once Vista is out. Or at least bringing in Mac users to double up with Boot Camp or one of the VT options.
 
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