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Windows Vista: Eight different views...
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Onizuka said:
Well start is not really a verson of Vistal.
N is being forces out there by eurpean law so I dont count them as extra.
Enterprise is ONLY going to be sold to major corps and no personal users should ever be using an enterprise verson of software and it will not be on store shelves.
After all that is said and done.
There will be 4 verson on store shelves
Home Basic, Premium, Bussiness and Ultra.
So I count 4 versons but cut it like you want it. I dont agree with the set up. I would rather there only be 3 verson total.
Starter, Enterprise, and Ultra.
Starter I also think is being sold for like 5-10 bucks. But it also only going to be sold 3rd world.
Now Enterprise verson of software dont really enter into so much in the mac world yet because of the reltively small % of macs out there and even a small % in the bussiness world. But enterprise verson of any software is only really ment for huge network set ups (like 100+)
That is why I dont count starter and Enterprise.
N I dont count because of the European law. Because in all fairness if apple was the same size as M$ they would have to sell an N verson as well. that verson lacking quicktime and itunes.
Timepass said:
You can choose not to count them for whatever reason, but that doesn't change the fact there are more than a half dozen very distinct product lines within the system that will require distinct upgrades and have unique problems.
tjwett said:
are you talking about something like clear type (which is already out for XP). Great program and it is safe to guess that it going to be in tiger. Btw Clear Type is something that you have to download from M$ to use it. Mainly because it was not finished 2003-2004 or so. Sorry dont rememeber when they put it out for download. But I know it pretty new and it was sometime before tiger.
Timepass said:
no, i'm referring to the fact that Windows still has pixelated fonts all throughout the operating system. OS X displays smooth, print-like type on the screen in the OS and in every application. not crapping on Windows, just really curious if this will be in Vista. i can't even look at a Windows screen for more than a few minutes without my eyes frying.
tjwett said:
sorry dont know the name of the program that covers that stuff in Tiger off the top of my head.
Currently I am on my XP computer doing so homework for class so it really easy for me to turn off clear type I going to do that to see what it looks like been so long since I turned it off to test something (plus see if I can see what you are talking about.)
Ok after looking at it I think you have never seen an XP computer with clear type turn on. It not something you average XP computer would have on it. Many people say that it better than the one in Tiger.
But to answer you question yes Vista will have it.
Also I took 2 screen shots and attact it showing the difference bettween one that has clear type on and on that has it off.
I know it will not be the best because it set up for what I like and for my monitor.
Also it quility is going to be hurt by the fact that it is a jpg and it going to be diffenernt on you monitor compared to mine but it give you a slight idea.
To truely see how nice it is you need to get on an XP computer go the the Microsoft power toys and download and install clear type. It is made by M$. It will be amoung a lot of little nice add in for XP like Tweak UI (one that lets the user do a lot of little custom settings) among other nice ones. Either way it really nice and in many ways is a lot better than what is in tiger. (Also because it a Power toy for XP right now is a huge reason why very few computer running XP have it on it or even turned on. Clear Type and Tweak UI are 2 power toys that everyone should get for there XP computers)
Also tiger does not have true vectoring yet either. It does the same thing clear type is doing on XP for the text.
Either way check out the screen shot and see if you can understand what I am talking about.
* heh I Forgot to move my timer widget I was using for defence driving online so I knew when I could move to the next slide.. got it fix for the 2nd shot.
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IJ Reilly said:
I dont believe that it is Quartz. Quartz I always though was the name for OSX graphic engine The font smoothing I believe had it own name for it. Like clear type for window. But then again I could be wrong. But either way it not a big deal. The orginal poster was talking about the text and I attach a screen shot with what it looks like on and what it looks like off above. either way that is the more imporant factor.
Either way the name for it in OSX does not matter for what we are talking about here.
EricNau said:What a great idea! If only there was a company that would do that...
lol. I guess you see where I'm coming from here. lol
Microsoft would avoid all of this hassle with the European government if they made their OS reasonable in the first place. But then again, should i even care? It jus tmeans more people will switch over when they get sick of dealing with this crap.