windows vista on boot camp

[thefunkymunky]

This may or may not help. Right click on brightness.exe in your System32 folder and select Properties. Tick the box "Run as administrator". For good measure, you may want to select compatibility mode with XP as well. When you double click this now, it should come up with a dialogue box asking whether you want to proceed, which, of course, you do. You should then see the brightness icon appearing in the system tray.

No guarantees, but I think I had to do this to get this and other reluctant programs to run under Vista due to the increased security built in.

Unfortunately. That didn't work for me. No matter what I try "brightness.exe" refuses to run. grrrrr.

 

[killmoms]

This evening I installed Vista Ultimate on my Boot Camp partition. I chose to do a "clean install" - from the installer I formatted my BC partition (which was clearly labeled in a nice GUI) and then installed. The installer is much faster than XP's and doesn't require any user interaction. Basically a lot like OS X's.

Just as a point of interest, did you install the 64-bit version or the 32-bit one? If the former, any issues? If the latter, why not 64-bit?

 

[apfhex]

If the former, any issues? If the latter, why not 64-bit?

32-bit. From what I hear the 64-bit version has compatibility issues (see AnandTech: Windows Vista Performance Guide — The 64-bit factor). I have no reason to install it... not using Windows for anything that would benefit from 64-bit.

I don't have any driver issues with 32-bit Vista... yet. I haven't used it much. The default install included everything (everything immediately noticeable that is) except for audio drivers which I got from Boot Camp, along with the Apple Keyboard support. WinACD works too. I'm not sure about Bluetooth, I haven't tested it, I don't know if those drivers got installed. Once Apple releases a Boot Camp update for Vista compatibility things will be even better.

 

[sixth]

Sixth, just a quick question, how did you solve your audio stuttering issues?

Cheers for the help in advance.

I uninstalled the drivers...reinstalled and turned down the volume on the main control and turned up in the program..opretty much just played with it until i figured the perfect spot that was max volume and clear...it still crackles sometimes but no where near what it did before...hopefully apple releases a fix soon.

 

[cocacola5373]

Cheers for the help sixth.

I have a question for all the guys who have installed the RETAIL version of Vista. Is the RETAIL version exactly the same as the RTM .iso ones available on the P2P networks? I am willing to purchase the retail version of Vista but want to take it for a spin first. Also, regarding EFI; some members have posted that the retail version now supports EFI. Does this mean that we don't need to manually delete the EFI partion? And that the EFI partition will still be intact for firmware upgrades? What about the RTM .iso? Do they support EFI as well or only the retail versions. Can somebody please confirm this?

Cheers in adavance.

 

[apfhex]

Is the RETAIL version exactly the same as the RTM

Also, regarding EFI; some members have posted that the retail version now supports EFI. Does this mean that we don't need to manually delete the EFI partion?

Vista retail is build 6000. I heard that there were some updates (driver updates?) between RTM and retail, but I don't know exactly. But yeah, same build number.

IIRC, the EFI issue became irrelevant once Apple started shipping Macs with the updated firmware that allowed booting of Windows (starting with the first release of Boot Camp). Or if I'm wrong about that, then at the very least, there's hasn't been any need to fuss with EFI since at least RC1. Vista retail doesn't require any fussing with partitions.

 

[cocacola5373]

Thanks for the info.

When RC1 and RC2 came out originally sometime late last year, I tried installing them on my macbook pro. I had to manually delete the EFI partirion to install Vista.

I had read in these forums about some members claiming that MS threw in EFI support at the last minute and is included with the retail version. Thats why I was asking if the RTM and RETAIL versions had any differences.

Cheers!

 

[projectle]

Microsoft said from the beginning that x64 would have EFI support.

Whether it made it into the final product is anyones guess given the constant stream of broken promises there.

 

[Nicolasdec]

how dose it run i have a macbook pro core duo 2.16 GHz and 2 GB of ram?

 

[cocacola5373]

Microsoft said from the beginning that x64 would have EFI support.

Whether it made it into the final product is anyones guess given the constant stream of broken promises there.

Lol. I was just wondering about the 32-bit version if they had added EFI support to the retail version.

Cheers!

 

[tehdee]

how dose it run i have a macbook pro core duo 2.16 GHz and 2 GB of ram?

it'll run like a champ.

 

[balahir]

how dose it run i have a macbook pro core duo 2.16 GHz and 2 GB of ram?

it'll run like a champ.

Agree. I have the same MPB CD but with 1GB RAM. Like it or not, but no problems with the performance. On my iMac C2D it's even faster.

Another interesting observation goes for the latest version of IE (included in Vista but available as download for XP, I think). You may discuss whether the new layout and GUI is good or not, but the sucker renders and shows web pages faster than ANY other browser I have tested, on OSX or Windows. Something for other developers to have a look at.

 

[mzeb]

RTM=Retail

Vista retail is build 6000. I heard that there were some updates (driver updates?) between RTM and retail, but I don't know exactly. But yeah, same build number.

IIRC, the EFI issue became irrelevant once Apple started shipping Macs with the updated firmware that allowed booting of Windows (starting with the first release of Boot Camp). Or if I'm wrong about that, then at the very least, there's hasn't been any need to fuss with EFI since at least RC1. Vista retail doesn't require any fussing with partitions.

Yes, RTM is the retail version. RTM means "release to media" which is the iso we sent to our disk stampers. There are very minor differences in the english release and the non english releases but that's about it. Now as for taking it for a test drive, the nice thing about Vista is you can run for a few weeks without a key, no features disabled. Let me know what you think 🙂.

 

[mzeb]

EFI Support

Lol. I was just wondering about the 32-bit version if they had added EFI support to the retail version.

Cheers!

Short answer - no. Long answer - no but don't sweat it, efi can emulate an acpi supporting bios with no issues so it's not a big deal. But if you really want to screw up Windows you can play around with a program called bcdedit which is the boot setting manipulation program (no more boot.ini!). You can do some neat stuff if you take some time with it...

 

[cocacola5373]

Thanks for the info mzeb.

I guess the million dollar question I have been wanting to know the answer to is, do I or don't I need to manually delete the EFI partion to be able to install the RETAIL version of Vista?

Somebody please give me an answer.

Cheers for all the help!!

 

[Bill Gates]

Yes, RTM is the retail version. RTM means "release to media" which is the iso we sent to our disk stampers. There are very minor differences in the english release and the non english releases but that's about it. Now as for taking it for a test drive, the nice thing about Vista is you can run for a few weeks without a key, no features disabled. Let me know what you think 🙂.

Actually, RTM means "Release To Manufacturing."

 

[apfhex]

I guess the million dollar question I have been wanting to know the answer to is, do I or don't I need to manually delete the EFI partion to be able to install the RETAIL version of Vista?

I already answered in my above post, but no, you don't. 🙂

 

[Brandon Live]

There isn't any tap support yet, to get the right click you have to hold two fingers on the track pad and click the button. I'm waiting on tap support too so I know where you're coming from 🙂. It seems Apple hasin't implemented it yet though.

Does tap support work on XP? If so, there's probably a way to make it work on Vista.

 

[Sliv]

Yes, RTM is the retail version. RTM means "release to media" which is the iso we sent to our disk stampers. There are very minor differences in the english release and the non english releases but that's about it. Now as for taking it for a test drive, the nice thing about Vista is you can run for a few weeks without a key, no features disabled. Let me know what you think 🙂.

RTM stands for Release to manufacturing actually.
Or ready to market.

 

[bazzevo]

ASIO Driver for audio Q

Vista on a MacBook core duo (Rev A) with 2GHz/2GB is a dream. I've been running on this machine for the past 6 months and have had good luck. (I'm one of the devs on vista if anyone is wondering.) And now I can finally post this. Here's what works and what doesn't:

1) Graphics: there is a wddm driver for the GMA 950. That means that if you have more than 512MB of RAM you get glass. It's in the Vista Box. The brightness control causes issues with UAC. It will ask for permission to launch whenever you log in.
2) Sound: The sigmatel driver included in the Vista Box works, but it takes a small registry hack. A key has to be added. Alternately if you unpack apples drivers the sigmatel driver in apple's drivers works without the hack.
3) Networking: Both wired and wireless in box.
4) Trackpad: the default trackpad driver for Vista works, but you don't get any advanced features (ie. no two finger click). You can install the apple trackpad driver and get the same functionality as in XP. There's a catch. The driver doesn't come out of sleep properly. Apple knows about this. I've been using a program called AutoHotkey in the interim.
5) Keyboard: apple keyboard support works great. No problems.
6) Bluetooth: getting this working is a bit of a trick, but it does work. Both my mighty mouse and my Motorola E815 work in Vista with apple's bluetooth support. It must be installed manually through device manager.

Hope this helps everyone. I'll be keeping an eye on mac support from the inside ;-). I am proud of Vista and it's a solid OS. The first windows OS I can work on. It's well worth dual booting. On the note of hardware, Apple still has it down. The Mac is the best Windows machine to date 🙂. Thanks. Post here and I'll try to keep checking back.

Have you treid any 3rd party ASIO drivers for Audio with Vista?

I have been having major issues with XP on a MacBook Pro. I get constant Digital clicks as if the digi clock is out of sync. If it works with Vista this would be great news. ANy ASIO driver i have check with XP doesn't work. The only driver that does is Apples own Sigma Audio Driver for the macs own outputs.

Checked gear: M-Audio 410, 1814, Pipline, Tested with Protools MPowered, Live, Logic Audio. None of which have audio that works correctly with ASIO drivers.

Thanks,

bazzevo

 

[cocacola5373]

Have you treid any 3rd party ASIO drivers for Audio with Vista?

I have been having major issues with XP on a MacBook Pro. I get constant Digital clicks as if the digi clock is out of sync. If it works with Vista this would be great news. ANy ASIO driver i have check with XP doesn't work. The only driver that does is Apples own Sigma Audio Driver for the macs own outputs.

Checked gear: M-Audio 410, 1814, Pipline, Tested with Protools MPowered, Live, Logic Audio. None of which have audio that works correctly with ASIO drivers.

Thanks,

bazzevo

When you say digital clicks, do you mean audio stuttering?

I too had this problem for the longest time and the solution was to install an updated driver for the wireless lan card. It may sound funny but give it a try. Search for updated drivers for the Atheros wireless card. This did the trick for me. I have the drivers but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post them here.

Anyways, give it a try and post your results for others.

 

[bazzevo]

When you say digital clicks, do you mean audio stuttering?

I too had this problem for the longest time and the solution was to install an updated driver for the wireless lan card. It may sound funny but give it a try. Search for updated drivers for the Atheros wireless card. This did the trick for me. I have the drivers but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post them here.

Anyways, give it a try and post your results for others.

Yeh stuttering. it would play for a bit then freak out for a second or two. then much the same. like the porcessor was over loading, when it isn't.


i'll try that and let you know if it works out for me too.

thanks,

 

[Brandon Live]

It took about 5 minutes for me to get tired of the Trackpad not working on resume. So I fixed it.

http://brandonlive.com/2007/02/04/macbook-and-vista-fixing-the-trackpad-on-resume/

 

[sixth]

Yeh stuttering. it would play for a bit then freak out for a second or two. then much the same. like the porcessor was over loading, when it isn't.


i'll try that and let you know if it works out for me too.

thanks,

I am still having this issue. I thought I fixed but I guess not. I am going to try the Wireless Driver update now, see if that helps.

Edit- I grabbed the D-Link DWL-652 Xtreme N driver and installed it. No go. Sound still skips, we need a Sigmatel HD Driver....one that works with MBP...any one know what else we can do to fix this issue?

 

[cocacola5373]

I am still having this issue. I thought I fixed but I guess not. I am going to try the Wireless Driver update now, see if that helps.

Edit- I grabbed the D-Link DWL-652 Xtreme N driver and installed it. No go. Sound still skips, we need a Sigmatel HD Driver....one that works with MBP...any one know what else we can do to fix this issue?

The D-Link ones did not work for me. I used a different one that I believe was part of the drivers cd of an IBM Thinkpad / Leonovo. Message or email me and I'll send you the installer. Just install it over the old one. No need to uninstall your old drivers. Worked like a charm for me. No stuttering at all. I wouldn't mind uploading it here so any admin please let me know if attatching is allowed here.