Windows XP on PowerBook G4

trolemac

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Oct 10, 2006
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Hi,
please try to help me.

im new user, and i got powerbook g4.
i need to install windows xp on my Powerbook g4 till tomorrow...

i tried to install parallels but it say that i cant run this program on my mac,
please, someone know diffrent way to get it work?!

i have:
PowerBook G4 1.67ghz 512mb

thank you.
tom
:)
 

Surf and Turf

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Sep 27, 2006
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In my mind
you could try virtual pc, i think the latest version is 7. I could be wrong. This will lag big time...trust me. Boot up times alone take awhile, let alone trying to run mathcad or similar numbers crunching program.
 

Chundles

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Jul 4, 2005
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trolemac said:
Hi,
please try to help me.

im new user, and i got powerbook g4.
i need to install windows xp on my Powerbook g4 till tomorrow...

i tried to install parallels but it say that i cant run this program on my mac,
please, someone know diffrent way to get it work?!

i have:
PowerBook G4 1.67ghz 512mb

thank you.
tom
:)
You need an Intel Mac to run Windows XP via a Boot Camp install or virtualised through Parallels. Your PowerBook doesn't support either because it uses a PowerPC processor.

You can run XP on your PowerBook by purchasing either Microsoft's Virtual PC for Mac (no, it's not the free one, VPC:mac costs a fair bit of cash) or using a similar emulator such as Qemu. These are emulating an X86 processor within your PowerPC Mac and as such make Windows run very, very slowly - I believe at around 533MHz P3 speeds - fine for small applications but not for anything more demanding.
 

macman2790

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Sep 4, 2006
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Chundles said:
You need an Intel Mac to run Windows XP via a Boot Camp install or virtualised through Parallels. Your PowerBook doesn't support either because it uses a PowerPC processor.

You can run XP on your PowerBook by purchasing either Microsoft's Virtual PC for Mac (no, it's not the free one, VPC:mac costs a fair bit of cash) or using a similar emulator such as Qemu. These are emulating an X86 processor within your PowerPC Mac and as such make Windows run very, very slowly - I believe at around 533MHz P3 speeds - fine for small applications but not for anything more demanding.
trolemac, this is probably some very disturbing news. Did you just purchase your powerbook?
 

trolemac

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Oct 10, 2006
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WOW...
thank you very much for really quick responses.

i think that i need to buy the VM 7 like most of you said...
i just need to run very small application.

macman2790, i bought this PowerBook G4 about 6 months ago,
so its not so bad... ;)
 

trolemac

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Oct 10, 2006
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Hi,
it is again me, i install Windows XP with Qemu like Chundles said. (thank you Chundles)

but the installation process time take me about 7 hours (!!!!):confused: (!!!!)
this is fine ?!!

with Microsoft's Virtual PC for Mac V7 (the new one),
it will be the same?!

thank you,
tom
 

Chundles

macrumors G4
Jul 4, 2005
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trolemac said:
Hi,
it is again me, i install Windows XP with Qemu like Chundles said. (thank you Chundles)

but the installation process time take me about 7 hours (!!!!):confused: (!!!!)
this is fine ?!!

with Microsoft's Virtual PC for Mac V7 (the new one),
it will be the same?!

thank you,
tom
It will probably take less time, Qemu is a free emulator, Virtual PC is the best around but it costs money. At least, I think that's what you're asking - whether VPC will take less time to set up than Qemu. It's a bit difficult to make sense of your post but I think I figured it out.
 

trolemac

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Original poster
Oct 10, 2006
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im sorry about my english...
you was right i asked if it will take less time to set up Windows xp.

but also, i would like to know if it will run the application faster then
Qemu?

thank you.
tom
 

trolemac

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Oct 10, 2006
8
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Hello,
i just bought Virtual Pc v7 from microsoft.

i installed windows xp and it work ok , just one problem the application that i need to open with Virtual Pc need 750MHz speed. and, if i look at "My Computer" -> Properties. i can see only 686 processor , 131 Mhz 256 MB RAM.

and the application that i use required P3 750 Mhz, 128 MB Minimum.

there is somthing that i can do?!
can i add more Mhz speed to Win xp pro with virtual pc v7?

thanks,
tom
 

Chundles

macrumors G4
Jul 4, 2005
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trolemac said:
Someone please...
:(
Sorry mate, that's as good as you're going to get I'm afraid, even on a G5-base Mac you still wouldn't get it to run fast enough.

Windows on a Mac is really only suited to Intel-based machines. You say you bought it 6 months ago, was it second hand?
 

trolemac

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Original poster
Oct 10, 2006
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:(

no i bought it new on Apple.com it cost me almost 2000$.

if i will set up windows 98 se do you guys think that it work faster?!
like 750 Mhz...
:)
 

Chundles

macrumors G4
Jul 4, 2005
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390
trolemac said:
:(

no i bought it new on Apple.com it cost me almost 2000$.

if i will set up windows 98 se do you guys think that it work faster?!
like 750 Mhz...
:)
Wait, did you buy it refurbished? Because the PowerBook (apart from the 12" which disappeared a little later when the MacBook came out) was discontinued in January.

It's really not likely to get any faster than it is - basically your machine is unsuitable for running anything but the most basic of Windows applications. The version of Windows you install will run faster but it will still be emulating the old slow hardware.
 

yellow

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Oct 21, 2003
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Windows 98, or even Windows 2000 will perform much better in VPC. However, since it's still a hardware emulator, you will see the same hardware specs no matter what version of the OS you have installed. The bloat in WinXP simply cripples an already handicapped app that is VPC.
 

damaxer

macrumors newbie
Jan 24, 2009
2
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help me!!!!

Hi,
it is again me, i install Windows XP with Qemu like Chundles said. (thank you Chundles)

but the installation process time take me about 7 hours (!!!!):confused: (!!!!)
this is fine ?!!

with Microsoft's Virtual PC for Mac V7 (the new one),
it will be the same?!

thank you,
tom
i have try to do it with qemu but
there is notification:
boot from cdrom failed
fatal: could not read the boot disk

can you help me because my laptop same like yours
please tell me the configuration in qemu and the steps....
thanks
 

mister345

macrumors newbie
Mar 9, 2009
1
0
virtual pc 7 for mac

Hi, I have a G4 1.67 GHz power pc as well, with 2 GB ram.
I have Virtual pc 7, and tried to install a recent version of
windows xp professional version, but it always gets to the point
in the installation process of "installing post SP3 components,"
and then gives me an error message, "this cpu does not have streaming
simd extensions support", and stops there.

Never mind running slow, it seems like my physical mac just doesn't
have what it takes to install the damn software in teh first place. But isn't
that what virtual pc is supposed to be for?
Does anyone know if it's really possible to install this on my mac?
Thanks.

Greg
 

Thomasluigi07

macrumors newbie
Jan 21, 2018
7
0
Sydney, Australia
Hi,
please try to help me.

im new user, and i got powerbook g4.
i need to install windows xp on my Powerbook g4 till tomorrow...

i tried to install parallels but it say that i cant run this program on my mac,
please, someone know diffrent way to get it work?!

i have:
PowerBook G4 1.67ghz 512mb

thank you.
tom
:)
Hi I have the the same problem! looking at this in 2018, I am typing this with my powerbook g4(shouldnt i be using a macbook?) Anyway, i own a Windows XP Pro Install Disk, but I cant find any Virtual Machine apps for my 10.4.11 powerbook g4!

Specs for my powerbook:
PowerBook G4
Processor: 1.33 GHz PowerPC G4
Memory: 768 MB DDR SDRAM
Version: 10.4.11
 

Intell

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Jan 24, 2010
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You want an emulator, like QEUM or VirtualPC. Just note that it will run very slow on a Powerbook. For more assistance, I suggest creating a thread in the PowerPC subforum.
 

Thomasluigi07

macrumors newbie
Jan 21, 2018
7
0
Sydney, Australia
Hi I have the the same problem! looking at this in 2018, I am typing this with my powerbook g4(shouldnt i be using a macbook?) Anyway, i own a Windows XP Pro Install Disk, but I cant find any Virtual Machine apps for my 10.4.11 powerbook g4!

Specs for my powerbook:
PowerBook G4
Processor: 1.33 GHz PowerPC G4
Memory: 768 MB DDR SDRAM
Version: 10.4.11
Even If i tried to look for one, It will take too long due to my slow G4 processor. Can you tell me if FireWire will let me connect to a another computer and do the thing? please let me know.
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You want an emulator, like QEUM or VirtualPC. Just note that it will run very slow on a Powerbook. For more assistance, I suggest creating a thread in the PowerPC subforum.
Thanks for your help!
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You want an emulator, like QEUM or VirtualPC. Just note that it will run very slow on a Powerbook. For more assistance, I suggest creating a thread in the PowerPC subforum.
I am using 10.4.11 macos QEMU wont work.
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You want an emulator, like QEUM or VirtualPC. Just note that it will run very slow on a Powerbook. For more assistance, I suggest creating a thread in the PowerPC subforum.
Can you please specify who made Virtual PC because the Microsoft one doesnt support Mac OS at all!
 
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