Wireless Charging in Future iPhone

[JFC]

I received a news letter from Jeep announcing the upcoming 2014 Cherokee. While looking at the interior features, I noticed that the center console included a wireless charging pad. I realize the picture shows an iPhone4/4S, but with all the talk lately of Siri integration in other cars, I wonder if this points to a collaboration between Apple and Jeep. If this was not designed for an iPhone, it must be for a particular phone which would be released this year. I doubt Jeep would have spent the time/money and taken up space in the center console for this feature if they did not already know about a phone that would be able to use this at the time the new Cherokee will be released; 4th quarter 2013.

Perhaps pure speculation, but something to think about.

http://www.jeep.com/en/2014/cheroke...=e_direct#model=limited&color=deep_cherry_red

 

[Mrbobb]

If the charging receiver is of any thickness, Apple won't put one in. They like THIN as we all know.

Not to squash your dream, but iPhone to head units (car stereo) integration hasn't been so hot, and this one is OBVIOUS.

 

[Cody21]

I assume Apple wouldn't want to sacrifice thinness to put the necessary tech into the iPhone 5S or future devices. And really don't see them making users buy an add-on such as a case to put on the device to achieve wireless charging. So until they can find the wireless tech necessary I don't see them adding it to a device yet. Although, I have no doubt it will eventually happen.

 

[Bako-MacAddict]

Wireless charging in the future would be nice !

 

[SirCodyAtl]

I received a news letter from Jeep announcing the upcoming 2014 Cherokee. While looking at the interior features, I noticed that the center console included a wireless charging pad. I realize the picture shows an iPhone4/4S, but with all the talk lately of Siri integration in other cars, I wonder if this points to a collaboration between Apple and Jeep. If this was not designed for an iPhone, it must be for a particular phone which would be released this year. I doubt Jeep would have spent the time/money and taken up space in the center console for this feature if they did not already know about a phone that would be able to use this at the time the new Cherokee will be released; 4th quarter 2013.

Perhaps pure speculation, but something to think about.

http://www.jeep.com/en/2014/cheroke...=e_direct#model=limited&color=deep_cherry_red

Chrysler Put this Wireless Charger in the New Dart First. The Dart has Conductive charger, a case comes with the charger. I hope Chrysler changed their minds and changed to Inductive or at least added it. Apple has filed for so many Wireless charging Patents...

They want to be able to charge with Movement. Not use wireless that will be and are at Local places, Starbucks, Stadiums, anywhere you might need to charge while you are there. Qi is one standard, Duracell Powermat already has Tons of Public places covered. Samsung will have the Biggest Best Wireless charging. Charge while phone is in your pocket or bag...

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I assume Apple wouldn't want to sacrifice thinness to put the necessary tech into the iPhone 5S or future devices. And really don't see them making users buy an add-on such as a case to put on the device to achieve wireless charging. So until they can find the wireless tech necessary I don't see them adding it to a device yet. Although, I have no doubt it will eventually happen.

Thinness? Their are several Phones much thinner then Apple that have it built in....The hardware is built in phone, two contacts beside battery, replacement battery cover has the thin copper coil built in the plastic and it receives the charge. Apple won't do it because you can't change the Battery much less remove Battery cover .

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If the charging receiver is of any thickness, Apple won't put one in. They like THIN as we all know.

Not to squash your dream, but iPhone to head units (car stereo) integration hasn't been so hot, and this one is OBVIOUS.

InfoTainment Head Units are Brand New and Apple hasn't had time except that they did approach all Manufactures asking to dedicate one button on steering wheel to them. All turned them down except one or two later said ok. Apple won't even let manufactures have specs etc so they can make products in cars compatible with the Apple. so that causes so many Apple users to not be able to enjoy those media infotainment units to the fullest.

 

[mapledress]

I see a news from 9to5mac which says Apple unlikely to introduce wireless charging iPhones this year despite rumors to the contrary. Here is the link: http://9to5mac.com/2013/03/08/apple...nes-this-year-despite-rumors-to-the-contrary/

Personally, the wireless charging does no meaning for me.

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

As usual, the crowd here will mostly think it's a stupid idea- and offer up a bunch of rationale against it- until Apple rolls it out... and then it will be the best innovation ever "shut up and take my money". About 2-3 years later, people will be posting how Apple invented wireless charging (and probably poking fun at those who still carry bricks & cables around to charge their non-Apple devices). Showing them examples of other iDevice-like hardware using it before Apple will be met with attacks, spin, change of subject, etc.

Personally, I think it's a great idea. As soon as Apple endorses it in iDevices (probably as a proprietary system that requires Apple licensing payments), compatible pads will start popping up everywhere. Not too far down the road, we'll be able to leave cords & bricks at home when we travel and still keep our iDevices charged. Once it's in the mainstream (Apple iDevices), Android will "copy" and pads will probably become a ubiquitous as wifi (which now we take for granted as being just about everywhere but there was virtually no wifi barely a decade+ ago).

 

[Davejprince]

As usual, the crowd here will mostly think it's a stupid idea- and offer up a bunch of rationale against it- until Apple rolls it out... and then it will be the best innovation ever "shut up and take my money". About 2-3 years later, people will be posting how Apple invented wireless charging (and probably poking fun at those who still carry bricks & cables around to charge their non-Apple devices). Showing them examples of other iDevice-like hardware using it before Apple will be met with attacks, spin, change of subject, etc.

Personally, I think it's a great idea. As soon as Apple endorses it in iDevices (probably as a proprietary system that requires Apple licensing payments), compatible pads will start popping up everywhere. Not too far down the road, we'll be able to leave cords & bricks at home when we travel and still keep our iDevices charged. Once it's in the mainstream (Apple iDevices), Android will "copy" and pads will probably become a ubiquitous as wifi (which now we take for granted as being just about everywhere but there was virtually no wifi barely a decade+ ago).

That's a troll-post, you are stereotyping the Apple users.

 

[pnoyblazed]

I would LOVE wireless charging for future iPhones... I just hope the pros outweigh the cons

 

[Shrink]

I don'y understand something...undoubtedly a sign of my general ignorance, but I thought I'd ask anyway.

Aside from in a car, I don't see the particular advantage to wireless charging at home, for example. You still have to have a device, and you still have to plug it in...so where is the advantage over just plugging in your iDevice.

Sorry if it's a stupid question..but I don't get the big advantage.

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

That's a troll-post, you are stereotyping the Apple users.

I buy as much Apple stuff as just about anyone. I've just seen this sequence of events often enough to recognize how it will play out. First, the bulk of "us" think a new thing is stupid (especially when other company iDevice-like toys already have it). Then, the rumors begin to pile up that Apple is probably going to implement it which leads to former (idea) haters "having a change of heart" or "if Apple does it, I'm sure it will be much better". Then, Apple rolls it out and it's seen as fantastic. No trolling, just poking fun at how it usually goes.

Watch & see. By the death of this thread, there will probably be about 80% against the idea (for a multitude of logical and illogical reasoning) and about 20% favoring the idea (but probably taking some beatings for wanting it before Apple reveals they are going to deliver it). Then, after Apple rolls it out, about 90% will be overwhelmingly in love with it and the chorus of "it's a stupid idea" and all of its derivatives will significantly fade away (and some of them will join the chorus of those in love with it). Same story over & over.

-wireless charging is in the group "stupid idea" phase (not many believe Apple is going to implement it yet).
-iRadio is the middle phase (when the crowd begins to believe Apple may actually implement it)
-longer-but-not-wider iPhone was stupid until rumors of iPhone 5 gained steam (then we started coming around to it)... and then it was fantastic when iPhone 5 actually launched longer-but-not-wider (so much for arguments about fragmentation, poor developers, Apple would never, same aspect ratio, etc)
-isight on iPads was entirely "stupid" when gen 1 was released but made perfect sense when gen 2 with "facetime" was launched (so much for "how would one hold it steady", "why would someone want to look up my nose", etc)
-1080p in TV made no sense when TV1 & 2 was all there was; then TV3 rolls out with 1080p and the bulk of the "720p is good enough" crowd seem to vanish (chart & all... and the Internet didn't crash, and sufficient broadband has not been implemented everywhere, etc).
-Etc. Jobs himself commented "who wants video on an iPod?" shortly before rolling out an iPod with video. The crowd chorused with him both ways. And that wasn't the only time. Do searches for Apple and Jobs flip flops and you'll see many examples.

An interesting one is retina as Apple has rolled out brand new products with and without it and thus the always pro-Apple crowd has to both bash and praise it both ways at the same time. Non-retina is "good enough" in the iPad Mini (which I personally have by the way), iMac, etc but nothing short of retina is good enough in other (retina) products.

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

Aside from in a car, I don't see the particular advantage to wireless charging at home, for example. You still have to have a device, and you still have to plug it in...so where is the advantage over just plugging in your iDevice.

Not huge advantages at home, though it is more convenient to just lay the iPhone on the pad rather than plug in for some people. Put a pad on your night stand and put your iDevice to bed when you go to bed. Pick it up next morning charged.

The bigger advantage IMO is for time away from home. If Apple implements it in all iDevices, charging pads will pop up at places we frequent. While you drink that coffee or eat that meal, charge your iDevice. While at the airport (where there is never enough free sockets or you might have to sit on a floor- sometimes a dirty floor- by a free socket), there can be long charging pads. Find a charging pad in your room at the hotel. Etc. As soon as it is everywhere (like wifi), you can pretty much retire the bricks & cable, knowing you can find a charge when traveling.

If you want to see it as an Apple advantage:

• things could get thinner because batteries could get thinner
• Apple would probably implement some proprietary option that would require all Pad-makers to pay Apple a licensing fee
• Apple gets some new "must have" (high margin) iDevice accessories to sell in the Apple store
• the "keep up with the Jones'" crowd will psych themselves out about "old technology" they have since it requires "old fashioned wires & bricks" to be charged (even though the bulk of places we charge our devices are probably completely out of sight of anyone else); thus added upgrades for Apple.
• Etc

 

[Shrink]

Not huge advantages at home, though it is more convenient to just lay the iPhone on the pad rather than plug in for some people. Put a pad on your night stand and put your iDevice to bed when you go to bed. Pick it up next morning charged.

The bigger advantage IMO is for time away from home. If Apple implements it in all iDevices, charging pads will pop up at places we frequent. While you drink that coffee or eat that meal, charge your iDevice. While at the airport (where there is never enough free sockets or you might have to set on a floor by a free socket), there can be long charging pads. Find a charging pad in your room at the hotel. Etc. As soon as it is everywhere (like wifi), you can pretty much retire the bricks & cable, knowing you can find a charge when traveling.

If you want to see it as an Apple advantage:

• things could get thinner because batteries could get thinner
• Apple would probably implement some proprietary option that would require all Pad-makers to pay Apple a licensing fee
• Etc

Thanks for taking the time to answer my question.

What you say helps me understand the issue...

 

[Davejprince]

I buy as much Apple stuff as just about anyone. I've just seen this sequence of events often enough to recognize how it will play out. First, the bulk of "us" think a new thing is stupid (especially when other company iDevice-like toys already have it). Then, the rumors begin to pile up that Apple is probably going to implement it which leads to former (idea) haters "having a change of heart" or "if Apple does it, I'm sure it will be much better". Then, Apple rolls it out and it's seen as fantastic. No trolling, just poking fun at how it usually goes.

Watch & see. By the death of this thread, there will probably be about 80% against the idea (for a multitude of logical and illogical reasoning) and about 20% favoring the idea (but probably taking some beatings for wanting it before Apple reveals they are going to deliver it). Then, after Apple rolls it out, about 90% will be overwhelmingly in love with it and the chorus of "it's a stupid idea" and all of its derivatives will significantly fade away (and some of them will join the chorus of those in love with it). Same story over & over.

-wireless charging is in the group "stupid idea" phase (not many believe Apple is going to implement it yet).
-iRadio is the middle phase (when the crowd begins to believe Apple may actually implement it)
-longer-but-not-wider iPhone was stupid until rumors of iPhone 5 gained steam (then we started coming around to it)... and then it was fantastic when iPhone 5 actually launched longer-but-not-wider (so much for arguments about fragmentation, poor developers, Apple would never, same aspect ratio, etc)
-isight on iPads was entirely "stupid" when gen 1 was released but made perfect sense when gen 2 with "facetime" was launched (so much for "how would one hold it steady", "why would someone want to look up my nose", etc)
-1080p in TV made no sense when TV1 & 2 was all there was; then TV3 rolls out with 1080p and the bulk of the "720p is good enough" crowd seem to vanish (chart & all... and the Internet didn't crash, and sufficient broadband has not been implemented everywhere, etc).
-Etc. Jobs himself commented "who wants video on an iPod?" shortly before rolling out an iPod with video. The crowd chorused with him both ways. And that wasn't the only time. Do searches for Apple and Jobs flip flops and you'll see many examples.

An interesting one is retina as Apple has rolled out brand new products with and without it and thus the always pro-Apple crowd has to both bash and praise it both ways at the same time. Non-retina is "good enough" in the iPad Mini (which I personally have by the way), iMac, etc but nothing short of retina is good enough in other (retina) products.

And 99% of the statistics are made up, what's your point?

 

[Interstella5555]

I don'y understand something...undoubtedly a sign of my general ignorance, but I thought I'd ask anyway.

Aside from in a car, I don't see the particular advantage to wireless charging at home, for example. You still have to have a device, and you still have to plug it in...so where is the advantage over just plugging in your iDevice.

Sorry if it's a stupid question..but I don't get the big advantage.

Think we don't understand a lot of the same things...I'm more than happy with having my phone plugged in and able to use it, in my understanding as soon as you break contact with the charging pad it stops, which seems beyond useless to me.

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

As is always the case with this particular topic, this innovation is not an either-or innovation, meaning those happy with the corded option can keep plugging in. The cord is likely to continue to have some necessity because of it's functionality beyond just charging the battery anyway.

 

[co.ag.2005]

Think we don't understand a lot of the same things...I'm more than happy with having my phone plugged in and able to use it, in my understanding as soon as you break contact with the charging pad it stops, which seems beyond useless to me.

this.

the only time I'd likely use one is on my nightstand to charge my phone while I sleep. In hotels, etc. would be nice, but airports, coffee shops, etc. would likely be where I'd use my device and charge at the same time. It'll be interesting to see if/when/how it will be implemented.

 

[Brady0123]

Maybe we can use that on the New 7.It all depends on Cook.

 

[maxsix]

The Apple excuse makers are out in full force in this thread.

Wireless and quick charging are wonderful innovations that may scare the more sedate iPhone users, but I've enjoyed these technology's on my Android phones for years.

The true brilliance of Apple is how they've influenced their customers to ignore or push back at any progress by competitors.

 

[ABC5S]

That's a troll-post, you are stereotyping the Apple users.

That's because it's true to a point. I agree, Apple should introduce this technology.