Wireless Internet iPods?

[puuukeey]

I have always said, you should pull into your garage, and be able to update your ipod from either your pc or the car. this is the last piece in the nomuss-nofuss automotive ipod setup.

 

[Mac Dummy]

...time for an iPhone

It sounds like to me that the name iPhone could be used for a new VOIP iLife app., to compete with Skype which uses a proprietary standard, and the GizmoProject which is open source. This new app I would hope would be based on open standards and be compatible with all the IM clients (Yahoo, MSN Messenger, AOL, Jabber,etc.) and be able to do what Skype does so well, encrypted conversations, video chat (ok, iChat already does this) and file transfer, oh and a free voicemail service that maybe uses Garageband to record messages and could be linked into iTunes. Oh well, its just a pipe dream for now.

 

[ITASOR]

If they were going to do a VOIP app, it seems like they would integrate it with iTunes in some way.

 

[moooosedude]

It sounds like to me that the name iPhone could be used for a new VOIP iLife app., to compete with Skype which uses a proprietary standard, and the GizmoProject which is open source. This new app I would hope would be based on open standards and be compatible with all the IM clients (Yahoo, MSN Messenger, AOL, Jabber,etc.) and be able to do what Skype does so well, encrypted conversations, video chat (ok, iChat already does this) and file transfer, oh and a free voicemail service that maybe uses Garageband to record messages and could be linked into iTunes. Oh well, its just a pipe dream for now.

sounds good to me...except i dont think garage band is a possibility...

but a nice dream.

i'd totally buy it!

 

[bloogersnigen]

Why do you need to stream music from your computer if your iPod already syncs up with it? I don't think people would buy an iPod without a HDD.

I have a 15 gb iPod and 94 gb of music. It would be nice to access all of my music and have more battery life (you could replace the hd with a better battery) than a hard drive

 

[Plymouthbreezer]

Cool. Just keep the price so the masses can afford it!

 

[Plymouthbreezer]

I have a 15 gb iPod and 94 gb of music. It would be nice to access all of my music and have more battery life (you could replace the hd with a better battery) than a hard drive

Isn't that a tad excessive??

 

[Sean Gadoury]

wifiPod?

 

[mmzplanet]

The rumor of Disney buying Pixar is VERY important. Jobs would have a large stake in Disney. Analysts say very likely putting him on Disney's board of directors. All of the sudden Disney and Apple would have a pretty good relationship. Keep in mind what Disney owns and what iTunes sells.

Disney media assets:
ABC Radio/TV, ESPN, Miramax, Dimension Films, Touchstone Pictures, Hollywood Pictures, Caravan Pictures, Walt Disney Pictures (obviously), Los Angeles Magazine, Us Weekly, Discover, A&E (incl History & Biography Channel), Lifetime, HBO Latin, E!. Then add Pixar if the Buyout were to occur. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_Disney

This should be headlining this article not - "Wireless Internet iPods". Jobs possibly ending up on Disney's board would affect Apple all the way around in a very, very positive way. Everyone wants to see Apple charge into the living room...right? This would allow Apple to do it with Disney behind them.

 

[Elrond39]

I dunno if this has been mentioned or not, but maybe the interpretation of this is wrong? Maybe we're looking at a PDA type device...?

 

[strange days]

i think the EDGE part of the rumor is the most interesting; as already mentioned previously :

first you can buy any song you like at any moment instantly
second you do the same with videos
third add iSight and iChat and there you have your iPhone

...i just can't figure out how they will deal with cell operators for bandwith allowances over EDGE

 

[wedge antilies]

This connects with the other story that Disney is buying Apple.

Disney is MAYBE buying Pixar.
Pixar. Not. Apple.

EDIT: I'm sorry that came off a bit nastier than I originally meant.

 

[hrmpf]

Apples plans for wireless iPod already in patent

Apple has obviously wanted to do a wireless iPod for a while and has detailed patent on its plans - it's got it all ipod docks built into computers, ipod picture frame docks, wireless adapter docks, everything! though not internet connection- it's quite funny- they start talking about skiers using wireless iPods on the ski slopes- weird for a patent- though obviously it means it would be long-range communication

A patent from Apple gives an insight to their thinking for the future development of the iPod and iPod accessories in November 2004.

Apple seemed quite enamoured with idea of a wireless iPod and had a lot of ideas for its application- sharing of music and even video.

Devices that might link into this include “a music player, game player, video player and video camera and wherein the media devices are selected from other media players, desktop computers, notebook computers, PDAs, audio equipment, video equipment, peripheral devices, personal mobile radios, personal tuning devices or personal display devices”.

The means of communication are not very specific and don’t really rule out much: “FM, RF, Bluetooth, 802.11, UWB, IR and magnetic links”. Magnetic induction is a nice idea- place your iPod on an induction surface and it forms a link with the device (stereo etc)- this could also be a means of charging an iPod as well.

 

[GregA]

Did anyone read the article?? If Disney buys Pixar most likely Jobs will end up chairman of Disney! iPods for sale at Disneyworld. All Disney movies available on iTunes video. Macs all over the theme parks. A new theme park named Jobsland.

I'd rather not see Apple tied to Disney - I'd rather see Apple working with all the major players.

If it did happen, I'd certainly not want to see Jobs as chairman of Disney. What does he care about a TV network or theme park? Steve as head of a creative-development section might be more interesting.

 

[GregA]

Verizon (and someone else I think?) already have wireless broadband networks. Forget about getting a iPod with a 200 GB harddrive. You won't need it. You will just stream your music and videos ANYWHERE to your iPod. The future of the iPod is without a hardddrive. All the iPod will be in the future is an antenna and a screen, receiving a hi-speed stream of all your music and media files.

Maybe eventually the bandwidth will do this. How about a simpler device though... sync your iPod-Nano-Wireless at home (not all your songs will fit)..... and while you are walking past McDonalds your iPod gets a Wifi connection and dynamically updates your playlists (deleting songs you've listened to, putting in some new ones). Perhaps it'll download your email at the same time.

I think the bigger picture is streaming your music from iTunes Music Store itself, and have access to every song.

I totally misread this idea and responded... though I'm going to run with my misunderstanding

I thought you were alluding to iPod syncing using the Apple video-caching technology that was rumoured in November. For those who didn't read about it - the video caching technology was supposed to allow you to buy the TV shows, but instead of keeping a local copy you would be caching a copy from Apple's servers.

The consequences of this are that a large part of your hard disk becomes a cache - you can't see the individual shows so you don't exactly know what is local and what's being downloaded (and with enough bandwidth it doesn't matter). Thus if you go to another mac at a friend's and logon as you, you could feasibly see exactly the same personal TV library, even continue watching a TV show you were halfway through..

It's quite a neat idea to have this work for music. You have the same music on multiple computers and your iPod, and wherever it is your music is simply a cache from the Apple servers. Your iPod could update it's playlists either via your computer or over any Wifi connection.

The only problem I see with this is if you rip your own music, which Apple doesn't have on their servers. 3 possible answers
1) upload your music to .Mac
2) perhaps there's a way for Apple to certify that your copy of Bohemian Rhapsody is the same as the one they sell, so that your other computers/iPod can access the track via Apple.
3) sync between your home mac (when available) and other devices, perhaps using iChat to find and make the connection.

All interesting stuff

 

[GregA]

this "wireless iPod" won't really be an iPod. It will be an xPod. It will be the first handheld device to run OS X. It will have an Intel Core processor, and wireless networking. Instead of running the iPod interface you'll actually run iTunes and be able to purchase songs from anywhere.

I do think there's a lot to be said for portability, I'm not sure that a handheld OSX is practical... though I could be wrong.

There are several ways to be "portable".

egs:
1) Tablet style but without "full" OSX. Edit your documents, send mail, listen to music, look at photos, run Widgets and Safari, wifi sync with home (perhaps via .Mac)
2) The iHome idea - all your important data stored on the iPod wherever you go. Perhaps it'll store the applications you need to work on them too - both Windows and Mac compatible.
3) Further to #2.... a disk image of OSX-Intel + VMWare - so you can run your whole OSX desktop on any Intel computer you connect to.
4) A remote desktop capability built into every iTunes... take-over your home PC.

Personally, a small tablet with a restricted access to my data would be great. The ability to have all my home data and setup available when I get to any PC would be excellent.

 

[Surreal]

Yea, that's important too (and yes, a HUGE selling point). But some people also have a ton of music that isn't on the store and they want access too.

still sync from a computer
that is why i am waiting for an 80 gig ipod.

i have 40 gigs now and my library grows about 10 gig per 3 months in aac --i am a completist...and a musician. 300 cds and rising

 

[Roller]

If you think what I posted was a utopian idea, you will be pissing your pants at what the tech companies come up with 20 years from now.

At my age, I may be doing that in 20 years no matter what the tech companies do.

As much as I'd love an Apple smartphone running a mobile version of OS X, I think this would be a very tough market for Apple. The Mac really hasn't made a dent in the Windows-centric corporate world, halo effect notwithstanding. The people who buy high-end PDA/smartphones like the Treo and the forthcoming Moto Q need seamless connectivity to the data on their Windows PCs and networks - that's what Apple would have to deliver to succeed in this space.

 

[Hyernel]

Jobs taking over at Disney would be FANTASTIC!

EPCOT's Innoventions would become a giant Apple demo area.

 

[kingtj]

I'm getting a different "vibe" from all of this....

Of course, anything's possible, but when I think of iPods and their ever-increased battery life (and thinner size) with each model, rumors about addition of bluetooth and some sort of "Internet anywhere" capabilities, and the seemingly purposeful severe limitations placed on Motorola's cellphone w/iTunes capabilities built-in - I think we might be looking at a launch of a new model of combo iPod/cellphone.

Not too long ago, lots of rumors about a new "PDA phone" from Apple were tossed around, but pretty much shut down by folks pointing out Jobs' promise that Apple would never do another PDA (post Newton).

Personally, I think that'll turn out to be a bit like his promise that Apple would never do a 2 button mouse. Technically, they still haven't -- though they've found a way to effectively offer one anyway with "mighty mouse".

They may never do anything more along the lines of a "PDA", but in fact, why should they have to? iPods are close enough already. They synch your calendar and appointment data from iCal, your address book contacts, have ability to store text memos of any sort, and even have some built-in games. With iPod video, you can even watch multimedia on them, just like lots of people liked to brag they could do with those Windows mobile PDAs.

So I can easily see them joining an iPod video with a cellphone. The click-wheel design would make for a phone menu system that's easy to navigate too (always a big issue/complaint with current cellphones). They wouldn't try to shoehorn OS X onto one of these things. No point! They're not trying to build a "pocket computer" here!

 

[emaja]

Yeah but I have no cell signal at my house in Newport Beach, Ca....there are dead spots all over the place.....if it has no HD, and you are in a dead spot, no music? This technology is not ready for prime time...I have a Blackberry and all over the place I lose the EDGE network. This may be good for Syncing the iPod, but streaming? nope....

Not just dead spots, but costs also.

Let's assume that this technology is feasable and ready. Is Verizon really going to provide that bandwidth for free to iPod users? I don't think so.

I love my music, and my iPod is not large enough to carry all my music with me like it once was, but there is no way that I will pay to listen to my music that I already have purchased - through ITMS or CD - in this way.

 

[jouster]

....Not too long ago, lots of rumors about a new "PDA phone" from Apple were tossed around, but pretty much shut down by folks pointing out Jobs' promise that Apple would never do another PDA (post Newton).

Jobs also said that they had developed a prototype PDA, but chosen not to market it. I think this was at a recent WWDC.

If they went to that much trouble and effort, I wouldn't rule it out for the future.

 

[mavrick422]

apple visa?

hey everyone,

sorry this isn't about the ipod, but i figured my question would get answered in the most recent and alive thread. anyway, do you guys know if apple has a visa credit card or something like that. like, sony has a visa credit card that you get sony store points with everytime you use the card (see here:

http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INT...omputers&INT=sstyle-global-rightnav-Sony_Card

so, does apple have something like that cause i could use one badly. thanks a lot (damnit, i want a apple smart phone with os x so badly). peace.

 

[psingh01]

Mobile Me sounds more like a .Mac service where you can backup your home directory to the ipod......

 

[zap2]

StreamWirelessly seems like a really cool idea, but one that will not work,


Why
1) You would likly have to pay for "servire" and some times it would need to re stream

2) dead spots, would kill people


I'll stick with my HD based 60Gb iPod