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Wireless Routers
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The ones that I listed do what you are asking, along with the one posted by GGJstudios they are able to run different speeds on different radios so you have one set for N and one set for G, and I haven't seen anything in a long time that only runs on A, or B wireless.
It will rollback when they are on the same radio, like I have stated time and time again. You really are pushing it with the semantics. So I will give you a real life scenario, running a 5 n 2,4 n and g device at the same time. The 2,4 n will slow to g speeds on most as no router out there today can run the 5 and 2.4 on the same radio, even though they both are n devices.
Still isn't doing what I asked in running them in the same radio they are running them on different radios. What you describe runs them on different radios, not on the same like I am asking. I am so glad that you guys are so rich to be able to replace perfectly functioning devices just because the tech is old. I still have a and b devices, and will for a while as they are automation devices that were never updated to newer technology. With the older routers I had to run 4 different routers just to keep the speed rollback from happening. With the ones I have now, it is not an issue.
By the way I'm not rich, I work an entry level job full time, I go to school full time, most tech products that have come out in the last 7 or 8 years have had wireless G, I don't just replace things when they get old, I replace them when I need better specs.
It matters when you want to have 5 and 2.4 coexist. You can't run 2.4 n and 5 n on the same radio, hence you need 2 radios (MBPs and Media center run on 5). The b, g, and n devices on 2.4 then are relegated to the second radio. To maintain the speed throughput I need them to not roll back speeds (iPhones run n, and older devices run g and b, and no one WANTS to run at b speeds). This is why it needs to perform the way it does. ALot of the dual band don't run simultaneous radios either, hence the need for such (those only run one radio at a time, I don't think they should be called dual band at that point).
And yes, as I stated before the Airport Express can do this as could the D-Link Extreme.
It's not a matter of being rich. You have to remember, many, such as the OP, are buying routers and wireless devices for the first time, so they don't have old stuff lying around that they have to accommodate. Just because you do doesn't mean that's the norm. I threw out my old 2400 baud modem and now use cable internet and a wireless network. That isn't in any way an indicator of my net worth.
I thought, when using the 2.4ghz freq that the fallback (to b or g speeds if a b or g device is on the network) was apart of the spec. Hmm now I will have to go home and check it out to prove myself wrong...
Could someone post the Wireless client screen showing what speeds their clients are connected at? That should show what band the clients are using and what speed they are using it at.
That is where we differ. It must be a matter of being rich as it was implied that no one uses b in this day and age. Lots I know have g and n working together (and several still running b as I said before automation devices aren't always updated to the latest tech), and would like to have the ability to run them all at the same time at the fastest speed they can. In which case, you need radios that can handle it simultaneously. If you want the full speed of a new MBP you must go 5GHz. If you have a g device that would run on the other radio. Now you get a smartphone (none today run at 5 n the few that run at n run 2.4, now you have a throttling issue), as 2.4 and 5 can't run on the same radio, so your 2.4 n runs at g speeds.
Of course some still use b devices these days, but they're not very common. That still doesn't mean that those who have only g or n devices, and no a or b devices, are rich. There are kids just getting their first computer or iDevice today. They don't have a or b devices to choose from. It's not a matter of the buyer's financial situation; it's the fact that a and b devices are passé, for the most part. That's the nature of technology: things become obsolete over time.
I am not sure if this will show, but I grabbed a screen shot of mine. The ones listed b/g are either b/g, the ones listed b/g/n are n (all of these are 2.4) and the 5 n are just that. and I must admit the rates displayed suck due to the distance, I really need to add a second router and bridge them.
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. Thanks for your comments. We are all 
here. The consensus appears to be Airport Extreme.
The latest Apple Airport Extreme Base Station (with simultaneous dualband) is very easy to setup, and seems to work well in my house. The old D-Link DIR-615 was giving me fits with not working reliably in the far corner of the house, even with longer & higher gain antennae, and it turned out to be the reason why my new VoIP adapter would not connect to my VoIP service. Even after a full reset, neither the old and new VoIP adapter would not connect to the service, new wireless clients could not reliably connect, and existing clients would sometimes not see the internet without a power cycle of of the DIR-615. Sure the AEBS might not give you the most flexibility or the greatest speed compared to the latest offerings from the competition, but it works fast enough and reliably enough in my household to keep our devices and us happy.
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I see most people are recommending the AirPort Extreme. What about the Express? Aside from the smaller range (I live in an apartment) and the inability to attach an external HD for Time Machine (not sure I'd use this?) are there other major drawbacks to just using the Express?
ETA: machines on my network will be a 2011 MBP, iPhone 4, and whatever my roommate is using (a Wii, PS3, Blackberry phone and older laptop, I believe).
I see most people are recommending the AirPort Extreme. What about the Express? Aside from the smaller range (I live in an apartment) and the inability to attach an external HD for Time Machine (not sure I'd use this?) are there other major drawbacks to just using the Express?
ETA: machines on my network will be a 2011 MBP, iPhone 4, and whatever my roommate is using (a Wii, PS3, Blackberry phone and older laptop, I believe).
It doesn't have simultaneous dual-band, like the Extreme does, but I prefer the AirPort Express. I use the AirTunes feature a lot and I use it when traveling, as well. It works great for me.
I still like my NetGear WNDR3700.
This router does have simultaneous dual band, and not only that, the speeds are maxed out on every device.
For instance, my girlfriends notebook does not support 5GHz, but does support N300. It's running at 300Mbps right now, while my phone only does G at 54Mbps. Both are accessing the network (the phone is downloading files from the Android Market Place, and the notebook is streaming video).
I also have two iPod touches each running at 150Mbps on the 2.4 frequency, my Apple TV 2nd Gen running on the 5GHz frequency (though only at 150Mbps), and my 2011 MacBook Pro running at 300Mbps on the 5GHz frequency.
Plus I have the 2.4n Guest network running at G speeds.
This router is only $129 at my local Walmart, and it flies!
Edit: The only downside to this router is that the shared hard drive must be NTFS, but my MacBook Pro can read and write to it quickly.
This router does have simultaneous dual band, and not only that, the speeds are maxed out on every device.
For instance, my girlfriends notebook does not support 5GHz, but does support N300. It's running at 300Mbps right now, while my phone only does G at 54Mbps. Both are accessing the network (the phone is downloading files from the Android Market Place, and the notebook is streaming video).
I also have two iPod touches each running at 150Mbps on the 2.4 frequency, my Apple TV 2nd Gen running on the 5GHz frequency (though only at 150Mbps), and my 2011 MacBook Pro running at 300Mbps on the 5GHz frequency.
Plus I have the 2.4n Guest network running at G speeds.
This router is only $129 at my local Walmart, and it flies!
Edit: The only downside to this router is that the shared hard drive must be NTFS, but my MacBook Pro can read and write to it quickly.