Wish Apple would allow downloading movies over cellular

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by BasicGreatGuy, Feb 14, 2017.

  1. BasicGreatGuy Contributor

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    It is frustrating that Apple won't allow us the option of downloading iTunes movies over cellular, especially when one has unlimited data. I don't need Apple to try and protect me from using too much data.
     
  2. Mlrollin91 macrumors G4

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    You might not need protection, but other people do. Remember the whole WiFi Assist fiasco? Its to protect those that don't realize how much data a movie uses, and to protect Apple from stupid people suing.
     
  3. smcgrath12 macrumors newbie

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    I agree, but I would hazard a guess that the restrictions are less about protecting you and more about protecting the cellular providers. They probably don't want Apple to open up those restrictions, especially with all the un-limited grandfathered plans still in play, IMHO. Though I am glad that Apple (or Netflix/Amazon??) allows download of movies on Netflix and Amazon Prime on cellular.
     
  4. eyoungren macrumors P6

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  5. Azzin macrumors 68040

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    Surely it's a restriction placed by the network carriers, rather than Apple.

    Apple don't care what size files you want to download, but AT&T, Verizon etc certainly do.
     
  6. M. Gustave macrumors 68000

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    Do you need to actually download it? I just stream the movies, which works now since the "TV" app change. Just push the play button:

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  7. Newtons Apple Suspended

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    OT, but how long does it take to download the typical movie on cellular and how much data on average is a movie?
     
  8. ACG12 macrumors 6502a

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    Not sure how long it takes, but if you're downloading the HD version of a movie, it is usually around 3.5-4 gb. Some surpass that if it's longer than a 2 hour movie.
     
  9. andyw715 macrumors 6502a

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    Yet I can stream high quality from Netflix for hours...no difference

    LTE here gets around 50Mbps download. So it take a while but not that long.


    I get the WiFi assist fiasco, this is because people didn't know what/how it worked.
    But there should be a setting to explicitly allow downloading a movie/app updates/photo backup/etc via cellular.
     
  10. SoN1NjA macrumors 65816

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    Hopefully I get Verizon unlimited soon, and I have a jailbroken 6s, can't wait to bypass all these restrictions imposed on users
     
  11. eyoungren macrumors P6

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    ????

    You say you have a jailbroken 6s. Can't you get around some of those restrictions right now?

    I even mentioned a tweak above to get around the WiFi restriction for the app store, and there are at least 4 or 5 known tethering tweaks. Why do you have to wait for unlimited data before you can use this stuff when you're jailbroken now?
     
  12. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

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    Exactly.
    Most dont know every details and storage content like us do here.
    They will just clinic download without thinking and then they will get racked up with tons of overages blaming Apple and their carrier and all the drama that follows after that.
    --- Post Merged, Feb 15, 2017 ---
    Wow, you can imagine the repercussions to that :D
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    Sounds like she might have a tiered data plan currently.
    So if she bypasses those restrictions now she will be paying an arm and a leg:D
     
  13. SoN1NjA macrumors 65816

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    Yes! Took the words right out of my keyboard
     
  14. smcgrath12, Feb 15, 2017
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    Slightly OT, but I would desire iCloud backups over cellular. Say, some setting like "If no iCloud backups have completely successfully over last calendar week, backup over cellular" and reset the counter for each backup completed (wifi or cellular). Apple can/should lock it down in the Restrictions menu with a big warning and you have to select it affirmatively for it to take effect.

    Brings me to a more deeper issue. How difficult will it be for Apple to have a hard limit on cellular data use for a user settable range of dates (Apple probably does not do this because the cellular providers lose money due to overages)? How hard is it for Apple to set hard limits within that overall upper limit for apps? They do show cellular data broken down by individual apps and nicely aggregated. Shouldn't be too difficult to go one tiny step further.

    EDIT: Apple could/should add a switch for "Roaming Protection" to cellular iCloud backups.
     
  15. jbachandouris macrumors 68040

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    It would be nice if we could download iOS updates over cellular. This whole wifi only is beyond ridiculous. They could put a bunch of warning screens that warn how much data it will use. The data is MINE and if I want to pay for potentially go over, that's MY problem.

    Same hold true for movies. Let the user decide!
     
  16. macduke macrumors 604

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    It should be a toggle switch. It could be argued that this protects the cellular network because if everyone on unlimited plans suddenly started using tons of data downloading movies, we'd lose unlimited plans again like last time. However, it could also be argued that most people don't change their defaults, so having it block my default with a buried setting could potentially work nowadays since the networks are stronger. Either way you get throttled at some point.
     
  17. JackieInCo macrumors 601

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    Do a Google search for this. Somewhere on the net, Netflix explains how they can stream HD movies and use much less bandwidth then a movie downloaded from iTunes or other places.
     
  18. CTHarrryH macrumors 65816

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    can you imagine how many lawsuits would result if people got huge charges because they drastically overran their usage plans - or ran their plans into the area where they get restricted speeds? If I were in charge of this I wouldn't allow movie downloads as you want.
     
  19. BasicGreatGuy, Feb 15, 2017
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    I tried that this afternoon and the movie keeps randomly stopping. I have to manually start it again and hope that it resumes at the same spot. My signal strength for the area of the house I am in affords me about 40mbps down so that should be good enough LTE (I would think) to stream a HD movie.
     
  20. joeblow7777 macrumors 601

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    It's to protect themselves, so that they don't get a class action lawsuit from people who don't understand the difference between wifi and cellular data, and get themselves crazy data charges.
     
  21. andyw715 macrumors 6502a

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    I can use the iPhone hotspot to connect my iPad and download the update.

    It's a silly restriction.
     

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