Wish list, what did we get?

Discussion in 'Apple TV and Home Theater' started by petteri, Jan 16, 2008.

  1. petteri macrumors member

    Aug 4, 2006
    Well a while ago I put together a "wish list" of improvements that people were clamoring for. So how did Apple do? Here is the list (bold wish granted!):

    1: On the fly playlists
    2: Shuffle within an album
    3: Enable USB port (keyboard, additional HD storage, bluetooth, external Blu-ray, HD-DVD)
    4: 4:3 support
    5: Better control of what syncs and what doesn't (ie. sync all my music except...)
    6: Internet Radio
    7: No cropping of the top and bottom edge of a playback
    8: Ability to sort movies by genre
    9: Subtitles support
    10: Option to turn off "most popular stuff on iTunes store" from the menu
    11: iTunes visualizer
    12: Ability to play multiple music videos in a row, either by shuffle or playlist
    13: Song ratings
    14: 5.1 (or multichannel) audio support
    15: Streaming photos
    16: Group TV shows by season
    17: RGB output option
    18: A - Z flip (better management for large music collections, select by first letter)
    19: Volume control
    20. Search and/or Filtering
    21. Stretch or zoom 4:3 content to 16:9
    22. Streaming internet video (NASA TV, Joost...)
    23. Unshuffle (I'm listening to a song, and decide I want to hear the rest of the album)
    24. Direct purchases from iTMS
    25. Add more screen savers (based on opening theme?)
    26. Direct support for podcasts

    We'll have to wait for the actual roll out of the new software to see for many of these items. So far, not much.
  2. Steven Jackson macrumors 6502

    Dec 8, 2006
    Lincoln, U.K.
    Numbers 24 and 26 have also been granted, haven't they?

  3. macleod199 macrumors 6502

    Mar 10, 2007
    I thought some combination of 25 and 15 was announced, too (moreso 25). I'm still not clear on what the Flickr integration does (whether it downloads or streams).
  4. bacaramac macrumors 65816


    Dec 29, 2007
    Well there may still be hope for using Apple's new external superdrive for the USB port. Maybe with a later software update.

    EDIT: Idea, add the superdrive and allow people to download content to ATV like music etc. and burn it directly to disc. No MAC required.
  5. theBB macrumors 68020


    Jan 3, 2006
    15 has been available since summer. (Streaming photos)

    5 can easily be done through smart playlists and syncing that one.

    4 and 17 ain't happening. :) Among your list, 6, 9, 12 and 18/20 (basically letter based searching) are the most important for me. Subtitle support (9) is probably not going to happen until iTS movies actually start carrying subtitles. Bummer...
  6. mrgreen4242 macrumors 601


    Feb 10, 2004
    Are SD movies in the iTMS 4:3? Are were they at least? I seem to remember everything from the iTMS being 640*480 - I've only used it once or twice, though.

    Anyways, the fact that they were selling 4:3 content but not supporting 4:3 display devices always seemed pretty odd to me.
  7. stomer macrumors 6502a

    Apr 2, 2007
    Leeds, UK
    I suspect 9 has been granted too. Subtitle support has found its way into iTunes, Quicktime and both the iPhone and iPod Touch.
  8. FreeState macrumors 68000


    Jun 24, 2004
    San Diego, CA
    You did not list this- but this was one of my big wants:

    Use AppleTV as a streaming destination for AirTunes from a computer.

    Which according to Engadget is included in the update - although thats the only place I have seen that mentioned.


  9. ipedro macrumors 68040


    Nov 30, 2004
    Toronto, ON
    This isn't what I first thought. AppleTV can't play its audio through an Airport Express. I was hoping that I could stream my AppleTV audio to another room.

    I guess what ended up being adopted -- AppleTV as an AirTunes destination -- is also pretty cool. If you have multiple AppleTV's in the house, you can stream music from your MacBook to them.
  10. FreeState macrumors 68000


    Jun 24, 2004
    San Diego, CA

    I think I might have gotten it wrong and your initial thought was correct... according to AppleInsider you stream from AppleTV to Airport Express:



    Attached Files:

  11. macleod199 macrumors 6502

    Mar 10, 2007
    It's mostly 4:3 now, yeah. Apparently you CAN use Apple TV on a 4:3, as long as it has component video in.
  12. imlucid macrumors 6502

    May 3, 2007
    No, Apple TV shows up in iTunes just like an airport express. You cannot stream FROM the Apple TV.

    However, you can control the playback through the Apple TV to a limited degree (pause/resume, track skip).

  13. Superman07 macrumors 6502a

    Aug 28, 2007
    You're going to have to find some evidence on this. It seems very odd to me that, while synced, you'd be able to control, through pass-thru, a remote Airtunes from the ATV itself.
  14. imlucid macrumors 6502

    May 3, 2007
    Odd or not, that is the way it works. I have evidence all around me...


  15. FreeState macrumors 68000


    Jun 24, 2004
    San Diego, CA

    So what is that screen shot of then? Is it for allowing the AppleTV as an AirTunes device? [Either way Im happy - I have both and now will be able to play my music throughout the whole house instead of just 1/2 of it;)]
  16. imlucid macrumors 6502

    May 3, 2007
    Its just a submenu to Airtunes options (turn it on/off, set a password).

  17. Cave Man macrumors 604

    Cave Man

    Feb 12, 2007
    Neander Valley, Germany; just outside Duesseldorf
    14 is only a qualified "yes". I suspect it will be inaccessible to anyone but Apple's download content.
  18. petteri thread starter macrumors member

    Aug 4, 2006
    Although the software hasn't yet been replaced, it seems that the focus here has been adding features, rather then improving the interface. While I think this update looks really nice I was hoping for much more in regards to music playback;

    I'd really like to be able to create a play list right on the :apple:TV.

    I'd like to be able to add to that play list as it plays.

    I'd like to be listening to my entire collection on shuffle and then be able to unshuffle and listen to the rest of the album from where the currently playing song is from.

    I was really hoping for betters tools to navigate a large music collection.

    We'll soon see, if any of these are added.

    As far as 5.1 support goes, I'm not sure that you can't say that it isn't supported if it doesn't work on anything other than iTMS store purchases. This thing was designed to work alongside the iTunes model. If iTunes could rip a DVD or a 5.1 audio track then I think more of an argument could be made that it should play 5.1 audio from any source. That said, I really hope that there are NO limitations on any play back of 5.1 audio.

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