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Wishlist for the G5

i do also feel that the case design is very limited for what you can put inside...

and can someone point out where the hard drives actually get placed? i can't even see them in any pics.

i do like how "intelligent" (as it's been referred to in this thread) the case design is. airflow is great...now to keep the dust out though...hmmmm
 
OK sorry this is a older post but just got my G5 and was looking at what memory people put in
I put in Muskin but got a bad stick ??
so was thinking also of crucial so did a search and found this thread

but the quote below I found rather funny and the lack of knowledge even more so :confused:

and not trying to attack you but educate you before you say things like this :rolleyes:


Originally posted by Porshuh944turbo
do you think Crucial makes their own RAM????
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OK, two quotes from Crucial:

Truth is, there is only one company in America that actually manufactures the DRAM chips, the memory printed circuit board, and then assembles them into memory modules — Micron and its memory upgrade division, Crucial Technology.

Micron has over 2,000 engineers and a 1.8 million-square-foot manufacturing facility with state-of-the-art clean rooms, memory testers, and exacting quality control. Crucial memory is recognized worldwide for its power and performance. Our memory is used by Apple, Gateway, HP, IBM, Micronpc and more

Crucial most certainly DOES make their own RAM, and most likely it's what Apple is shipping with the G5s.
 
Originally posted by Chad
OK sorry this is a older post but just got my G5 and was looking at what memory people put in
I put in Muskin but got a bad stick ??
so was thinking also of crucial so did a search and found this thread

but the quote below I found rather funny and the lack of knowledge even more so :confused:

and not trying to attack you but educate you before you say things like this :rolleyes:
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They were making a simple question and you act as if they made a blatantly stupid statement. Also if you are trying to educate someone you should at least point out what the mistake was and correct it. You just basically called them stupid without saying why. Please refrain from such attacks unless you are truly trying to educate someone and have the evidence to back it up.
 
Re: Wishlist for the G5

Originally posted by Wyrm
Not to gripe, but some constructive feedback to Apple:
Points I'd like to see:

1. ECC Memory - I can find no mention if the new boards support ECC. A quick count of the marketing picture shows this to be regular memory. Anyone know otherwise? ECC should be standard for a pro box.
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I think some of your other requests are valid, but this one is not. DDR ECC memory is difficult to come by and very expensive (do they even make ECC DDR400?), and has almost no benefit to the end user. Maybe in the G5 XServe or something it could make sense to offer DDR ECC memory, but in the G5 tower all this would do would be to increase the cost and potentially lower performance without provigind any benefit to the end user (standard DDR SDRAM is already reliable enough for 99% of us).

Also, I don't know why you say that Apple isn't offering any "midrange" graphics cards. They offer all 3 options on the G5: low end (GeForce 5200), mid range (Radeon 9600), and high end (Radeon 9800). The Radeon 9600 is considered to be a very good midrange card, so I don't really understand your complaint.

Maybe to some in the PC world "mid range" means like GeForce 4MX or something, because so many PCs ship with Intel Ingretated video (truly "low end")...then I guess there would be no "mid range" option for the G5. But I don't think so.
 
Originally posted by MacBandit
They were making a simple question and you act as if they made a blatantly stupid statement. Also if you are trying to educate someone you should at least point out what the mistake was and correct it. You just basically called them stupid without saying why. Please refrain from such attacks unless you are truly trying to educate someone and have the evidence to back it up.
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sure sorry ;) didnt mean to come across like that to anyone
but at the same time when someone says something like that which is common knowledge to most people in the biz !!!!

it does come off as a blatantly stupid statement

it wasnt a simple question it was a reply to someone else in itslef it was a slap back to that poster
go back and read it in whole

I guess the fact is quite common so sorry about that

at the same time you should be saying to that reply, dont make statements that you cant back up !!!

here
http://www.crucial.com/Company/companyinfo.asp

there is your proof ;)

not trying to start a war so sorry again if I did to some wasn't my intention.

but at the same time if you are going to pick on me for bringing out the truth on a false statement then you should have noticed it yourself
this is how bad info goes around and around !!!
I used to work as a trainer for a company called HP
and used to have to battle bad info all the time and sadly tons of it comes off of forums such as this one which has a ton of great people but sometimes even the best get tripped up on what is real and not
I have nothing against the poster just trying to correct a mistake ;)

also cute bunny pics from your bio page wife and I have two house bunnies ;)
http://www.chaddahlquist.com/bunnies/
 
Originally posted by Chad
.......but at the same time if you are going to pick on me for bringing out the truth on a false statement then you should have noticed it yourself
this is how bad info goes around and around !!!
I used to work as a trainer for a company called HP
and used to have to battle bad info all the time and sadly tons of it comes off of forums such as this one which has a ton of great people but sometimes even the best get tripped up on what is real and not
I have nothing against the poster just trying to correct a mistake ;)
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No, problem. I wasn't picking on you simply pointing out that if you want help educate someone you need to provide the knowledge that they need. All you did was say they were stupid and move on.

Just one member to another here. Don't assume that any info is common knowledge on these boards. We are constantly getting people in here that need to be told what a command key is etc. They come here because there is a vast amount of knowledge and we are happy to help even the most helpless.
 
;)
cool no worries then ;)
glad to be here and hope to get a lot of help with my new Mac
since I have not been on them in so many years
hope to kindly share knowledge I know
 
Re: Re: Wishlist for the G5

Originally posted by macrumors12345
I think some of your other requests are valid, but this one is not. DDR ECC memory is difficult to come by and very expensive (do they even make ECC DDR400?), and has almost no benefit to the end user. Maybe in the G5 XServe or something it could make sense to offer DDR ECC memory, but in the G5 tower all this would do would be to increase the cost and potentially lower performance without provigind any benefit to the end user (standard DDR SDRAM is already reliable enough for 99% of us).
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Well, Apple has already made that decision for you by not supporting ECC memory. DDR400 ECC is available, from a few stores, here in Japan at least, it's about 30-50% more expensive, and the benefit depends on what you are doing with your G5. Some people like the extra insurance that ECC provides, and would rather take the performance/cost hit than a chance of losing their work. Depending on implementation it will only decrease performance when using ECC (and then not by much) - so if you install cheaper DIMMS (if it supports both), then no performance loss - but then that is second-guessing the engineer.. ;-)

Re: G5 XServe
I don't think the current ones use ECC. They'd have to make a whole new set just to support ECC for the XServe rather than using the PowerMac one. They've done that before, so anything is possible. I agree that the XServe should absolutely support ECC because any unix infra admin worth his/her salt will demand ECC for a server deployment; they also like RAID, redundant power supplies, hot-swapable cpus, memory, drives, UPS, etc. Of there's a lot of high stuff in that list, but ECC memory is rather a given for an always on server.

Given the choice of having it or not, I'd vote to have it.


Also, I don't know why you say that Apple isn't offering any "midrange" graphics cards. They offer all 3 options on the G5: low end (GeForce 5200), mid range (Radeon 9600), and high end (Radeon 9800). The Radeon 9600 is considered to be a very good midrange card, so I don't really understand your complaint.

Maybe to some in the PC world "mid range" means like GeForce 4MX or something, because so many PCs ship with Intel Ingretated video (truly "low end")...then I guess there would be no "mid range" option for the G5. But I don't think so.
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Hey, that wasn't me - I agree with you about the midrange - the 9600 is a fine card. I hope they make workstation cards eventually, but the 9800 is an awesome card if you ask me.

Wyrm
 
Re: Wishlist for the G5

Originally posted by Wyrm
Extending the case a little higher to fit this could also mean more drives for point 2.
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I'm guessing you've not seen/used a G5 then?

They're really tall enough thanks!
 
Re: Re: Wishlist for the G5

Originally posted by gotohamish
I'm guessing you've not seen/used a G5 then?

They're really tall enough thanks!
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At the time I made that statement, you're right - I hadn't seen one in the metal so to speak. First thing I thought when I saw a G4 PowerMac next to a G5, was "How the &@#& does everything fit in the G4?!?!"
:eek:

-Wyrm
 
I don't agree with the water-cooling option at all.

Water cooling was only slightly practical a few years ago, because it really did make things silent, but water cooling is still a bulky and messy "technology" and nowadays it has no practical advantages over fans at all, given how much quieter they are these days.

The only reason anyone uses water-cooling these days if for the "wow" factor, but even then it's pretty pointless.

Do you really think any major computer company would produce a water-cooled computer?

Forgive me, but what are you thinking?? It's a totally redundant, expensive and useless technology now and would also completel negate the case design (for fans/airflow).
 
Originally posted by Source
I don't agree with the water-cooling option at all.

Water cooling was only slightly practical a few years ago, because it really did make things silent, but water cooling is still a bulky and messy "technology" and nowadays it has no practical advantages over fans at all, given how much quieter they are these days.

The only reason anyone uses water-cooling these days if for the "wow" factor, but even then it's pretty pointless.

Do you really think any major computer company would produce a water-cooled computer?

Forgive me, but what are you thinking?? It's a totally redundant, expensive and useless technology now and would also completel negate the case design (for fans/airflow).
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You sound like a car/motorcycle person when the first water cooled motors came out. It's unnecessary blah, blah, blah. Bullocks. Water cooling is far more effective at removing heat from a case then air and is still much more quiet. I can't remember who right off but it's Dell or IBM that uses water cooling in there laptops. Also if Apple went to water cooling they could reduce the number of fans and also reduce the size of the case or just the internals of the case allowing more expansion room. Also if the water cooling was done right they could completely seal the case preventing dust from entering it.
 
Originally posted by MacBandit
You sound like a car/motorcycle person when the first water cooled motors came out. It's unnecessary blah, blah, blah. Bullocks. Water cooling is far more effective at removing heat from a case then air and is still much more quiet. I can't remember who right off but it's Dell or IBM that uses water cooling in there laptops. Also if Apple went to water cooling they could reduce the number of fans and also reduce the size of the case or just the internals of the case allowing more expansion room. Also if the water cooling was done right they could completely seal the case preventing dust from entering it.
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All that and they might be able to free up some room without those GIANT heatsinks - hey maybe enough room to say put a second drive bay or more HDD space without increasing the size, or <gasp> actually shrinking the G5 enclosure. How much space is wasted in the new enclosure due to cooling with 9 computer controlled fans???

I admit the new G5 is quiet, but then again not as quiet as a Cube. Watercooling might get it much closer.

-Wyrm
 
Originally posted by Dont Hurt Me
My wish list is a G5 Cube................anyone else like one?? dont matter aluminum or clear acylic plastic just give me a small upgradeable G5.
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Unfortunately, I think mentioning The Cube at Apple is a firing offence. :D

Yeah - I had the envy, but never bought one...
:(

-Wyrm
 
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