Wow, can't you guys let be? Just skip over this thread if you don't want to discuss it and let other who DO want to discuss it be. You all don't have to be rude and jump on every person that wants to talk about this. 
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With such an expensive antennae test facility...
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Sure they do. And electrical tape, too. But why should anyone have to use duct tape to get a $600 smartphone to function correctly? Seems a bit absurd to me.
eawmp1 said:
Sure they do. And electrical tape, too. But why should anyone have to use duct tape to get a $600 smartphone to function correctly? Seems a bit absurd to me.
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Exactly. The problem is exacerbated by wet (sweaty) hands, which the engineers did not have. And since field testing was done with units in 3G-looking cases, they simply missed the defect until it was too late. Stupid, really.
hurriance said:
Exactly. The problem is exacerbated by wet (sweaty) hands, which the engineers did not have. And since field testing was done with units in 3G-looking cases, they simply missed the defect until it was too late. Stupid, really.
Anyone else that says this - should be banned or put in time out instantly, without question. It's getting really old and why they continue to put up with it is beyond me.
Listen, the antenna issues only happen in areas with weak signals. When I am at my home, I can't get it to drop a single bar no matter the grip. At my sister-in-laws house, if I event out my finger around the antenna, I get no bars.
It has everything to do with where you are and what kind of building your in. It is not 100% Apple.
It has everything to do with where you are and what kind of building your in. It is not 100% Apple.
Well maybe if they didn't spend all their time testing blackberries, samsungs, etc. for signal issues they might have had some time to get to the iPhone 4
Incorrect. It's 100% APPLE.
Why? In areas where the signal is BEST and you touch that spot, you will not notice a decrease. If you do, it is minimal. This is due to the fact that your phone is getting a great signal already. It has a MAX signal so it can lose -24db and still show a great signal.
Now, in reception areas that are not the best, you can't afford to lose any signal. If you do, your phone will show it more drastically. You will also suffer dropped calls and data problems.
So yes, it's ALL - 100% Apple - not from concentrate. It has NOTHING to do with AT&T. If Apple designed the antenna correctly, there would be NO issue no matter where you are.
That isn't true.
First 0.55% of 3 million iPhones sold is 16,500 people who have lodged complaints to Apple Care. This is not all the complaints of all users though - only those reported to Apple Care. The correct statement is "0.55% of users have lodged a complaint to AppleCare"
16,500 separate complaints in 3 weeks in itself is a huge number- about the size of a full professional basketball or hockey arena in any major city.
This doesn't include the far more people who are having problems but didn't go through the process of calling Apple Care. Many didn't because Apple and media have announced "a fix is coming" so people don't bother complaining.
Many others complained to AT&T or BestBuy where they bought the phones- these don't go into Apple Care.
So let's be fair- the 0.55% number is a bit deceptive.
Just buy the phone and use it for 30 days. If you're happy, keep it. If not, return it. Couldn't be simpler. As far as your statement is concerned about Apple's test facilities, that's not correct. Apple isn't saying they didn't know about the problem, they're saying it's not as bad as everyone is saying. Their testing revealed the issue, they knew about, but they just didn't think it was a big deal. Apple's statistics also show that it's not a big deal.
I've had mine since launch. It loses signal with the death grip in low signal areas just like everyone else's. In my house I can get the iP4 to drop the call while holding it in a certain way. Funny thing is, my Blackberry and Palm would also drop calls here when held in similar ways. So the iP4 behaves no differently in this regard, Apple is just the unfair target for issues that are common to all smartphones.
If I give the 3GS the deathgrip in my right hand, I can go from four bars down to 1. Same with my iP4. Same signal loss, same grip, but using right hand instead of left. This is a complete non-issue by virtue of the fact that the same "antennagate" can be reproduced on the 3GS, which everyone claims doesn't have the problem, as well as phones by RIM, HTC, Samsung and others.
What's going to happen on September 30? Apple will likely introduce a new box for the iP4 and start bundling bumpers with the product. It will take them that long to ramp up production in sufficient quantities. If Apple finds a hardware solution, they will announce it at that time and have a plan in place for existing iP4 customers.
Don't doubt. Buy the product, use it and enjoy it. Hopefully you'll find it as fun to use as I do.
There are a lot of people out there with working phones that do not have this antenna issue. The ones they used for testing must have not had the problem. It could have been something in the mass production facility where they took some shortcuts and therefore ended up with a lot of phones that are super sensitive to people touching the magic spot.
Why don't you do yourself a favor and all of us bywatching the Jobs presentation at the Apple web site. It answers your question, and provides a clear understanding of the redundant quesion you posted.
