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How do you even know the cop forced the iPod trade? He may have threatened arrest unless some bartering took place and she may have picked the iPod as the only portable valuable that the cab driver would agree that has value at least equal to the fare. If that is the case, I see no problem.

She was told to give driver compensation. Not at gun point. Not "give the driver the ipod at gun point" that some backseat lawyer wannabe are speculating. She could have gave the correct amount in cash but didn't. The woman turned over the iPod. Settle it in court instead of taking collateral? It typically takes $40 to file something with court, before the cost of lawyers.
Officers allegedly forced iPod payment

NEW YORK, Jan. 21 (UPI) -- A New York cabbie says he wants to return an iPod Nano he claims uniformed airport officers forced him to accept as a fare. Mohammed Islam said he wants to return the iPod Nano to Natalie Lenhart of Sacramento under the supervision of a Taxi and Limousine Commission official, the New York Post reported Wednesday. The driver said he called 911 after Lenhart swiped her payment card 20 times in the taxi cab at John F. Kennedy International Airport but was rejected each time. Islam and Lenhart both said Port Authority officers responded and told Lenhart she "had to give the driver some compensation" if she did not have money for the fare and forced her to surrender her iPod Nano, which Lenhart said was worth about $90 more than the fare plus tip. Islam said he wants to trade the music player for the amount of the original fare. "What am I going to do with the iPod? There's no ear phones," he said. The New York Port Authority said the incident is under investigation. "As of now, we have no evidence of any wrongdoing" the Port Authority said in a written statement. "However, this is against our policy if it happened as reported, and we will investigate and take appropriate action if it's found that someone didn't follow proper procedures."

Just short of having the police report in front of me; or personally witnessing the incident, my opinion is all I can offer based upon news accounts. Additionally, a misdemeanor committed "not-in-the-presence" of a police officer requires a Citizen's Arrest. Again, IMHO...
 
Let she among us who owns only one iPod be the first to cast a stone. ;)


I own only one iPod...

She's utterly stupid and thoroughly deserves what she gets, I hope she cried as the cabbie ran his hands over her iPod's click-wheel and mocked her cringingly embarrassing and soppy playlists.

;)
 
well, she was at an international airport so I would not take an IOU, you have to get something that you know has resale value..


As for the cops, they probably did not want to do any paperwork....

They probably thought it was a quick solution to the problem. By the way, they are among the highest paid police officers in the country.

Port Authority Police of NY & NJ = Police Heaven.
 
Weird that the cabby called 911 over this. Seems like he should have taken an imprint of the credit card and her phone number and just had the cab company deal with it.
 
I think most people with reason understands
- Taking collateral for money owed is logical.

If you don't think so, why don't I borrow some money from you and leave you with nothing? Why don't I borrow your car and leave you with a piece of gum?


Weird that the cabby called 911 over this. Seems like he should have taken an imprint of the credit card and her phone number and just had the cab company deal with it.

If the credit card is no good, an imprint does nothing.
 
It sounds like it was basically just used as collateral...

I think most people with reason understands
- Taking collateral for money owed is logical...

Collateral is probably not the most appropriate word, since LENHART was not allowed to pledge something as security for repayment of a loan, to be forfeited in the event of default. LENHART was forced to forfeit personal property to secure a debt for services, under the threat of arrest for a misdemeanor offense by a police officer. Once her iPod was taken as due payment LENHART is left with no course of action to retrieve her property, so the bottom-line is that her iPod is not collateral, since there is no intent on the part of the cab driver to return the iPod, except for "Bad Press."
 
Once her iPod was taken as due payment LENHART is left with no course of action to retrieve her property, so the bottom-line is that her iPod is not collateral, since there is no intent on the part of the cab driver to return the iPod, except for "Bad Press."
What is your solution then? If I was the cab driver, I would not accept a hand written IOU from a stranger living on the other coast. If she wants to get her iPod back, she could try to contact him later. She would have to trust him that he would return it upon proper payment, but he trusted her to make a payment after driving her to the airport and she failed, so it sounds fair.
 
What is your solution then? If I was the cab driver, I would not accept a hand written IOU from a stranger living on the other coast. If she wants to get her iPod back, she could try to contact him later. She would have to trust him that he would return it upon proper payment, but he trusted her to make a payment after driving her to the airport and she failed, so it sounds fair.

Well, it's not like she darted from the cab to avoid paying the fare. Her intention was to pay the fare with a credit card, and it should be the responsibility of the cabbie to ensure that there are backup procedures to ensure that the fare is "payable" by their current methods of payment. Whether it's by check, money order, cash, credit card or debit card, the vendor or cab driver has a responsibility to ensure that those methods meet the needs of their customers. Should the cabbie have had the responsibility to ensure that her payment method was doable (not sure if that's a word) or not, and if it's not, warn the customer or refuse that particular fare. Could the cabbie have called in the credit card to another driver or dispatcher and handle the transaction in that manner v. painting their customers into a corner with few, if any optional payment methods? I've heard of other customers in similar situations in which they negotiated with their cabbie and sent the money to them once the got home and attached a rather nice tip on top of the fare. Several attempts by LENHART's mother to speak with Islam have failed to work out a payment of the $49 fare and the return of her daughter's iPod. We'll hear more from the Internal Affairs Division of the Port Authority, when they complete their internal investigation...
 
Not to be stereotypical, but Mohammed Islam....I mean come on....LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Hope she gets her Nano back though.
 
Whether it's by check, money order, cash, credit card or debit card, the vendor or cab driver has a responsibility to ensure that those methods meet the needs of their customers.

No it's not. Where the heck did you get that idea?


The cab driver gave her 2 possible ways to pay, which is more than enough, and yet she couldn't pay using either method. Even if it was her credit card that didn't work, it was still her fault. In fact, I didn't even know you could pay a taxi driver using a credit card. I pay with cash, which is pretty hard to screw up. You either have the money, or you don't. There's no FAIL! when you use money.

You want him to accept cheques? That's funny.
 
No it's not. Where the heck did you get that idea? The cab driver gave her 2 possible ways to pay, which is more than enough, and yet she couldn't pay using either method. Even if it was her credit card that didn't work, it was still her fault. In fact, I didn't even know you could pay a taxi driver using a credit card. I pay with cash, which is pretty hard to screw up. You either have the money, or you don't. There's no FAIL! when you use money. You want him to accept cheques? That's funny.

"NYC taxis are required to have their technology package in good working order, and when it’s not, they’re not supposed to be picking up fares.
The NYC Taxi and Limousine Commission (TLC) states in their rules, “if the taximeter is equipped to accept credit or debit card payments for fares, a driver may not pick up or transport a passenger when the taximeter is incapable of accepting or processing credit or debit card transactions.” The exception to the rule is if the driver informs the passenger he can’t take card payments, prior to the beginning of the ride, and gives the passenger the opportunity to find other transportation.
Moreover, the rules state, “In the event that the wireless payment equipment used to accept payment by credit and debit cards is inoperable at the destination of a trip as a result of a technical problem in the system’s communication network that is not related to the equipment in the taxicab, the customer has the option of either (i) paying cash or (ii) requesting the taxicab driver continue to a location where the wireless payment system may communicate with its network.”
If the driver needs to go to another location to run the credit card, the driver is not permitted to charge the passenger for the extra ride.
1. The driver didn’t follow taxi commission rules by not making an attempt to move to another location where the card would go through.
2. If the driver knew the machine was having problems he violated the rules by not informing the passenger the machine wasn’t working right and giving her the option to not take the ride.
3. The Port Authority Police exceeded their authority by threatening to arrest her for non-payment. The young lady wanted to pay, but the driver’s equipment didn’t permit it. The driver was violating the law, and they should have acknowledged that.
4. The girl’s inexperience showed in that she didn’t get the name of all people concerned, badge numbers, etc. If it would have been me, I would have been on my cell phone to the Taxi Commission immediately to seek their help. Also I suspect she could have been somewhat more assertive with the PA police explaining that she wanted to pay but that his machine wasn’t working, and he never told her that before taking her as a passenger.
I think the Taxi Commission’s staff has not done their duty or best to resolve the problem satisfactorily, especially considering the driver definitely violated their rules by not moving the cab to another location to see if the card would go through. Based on what the young lady was told by the card company, it would seem that moving the cab could very well have immediately resolved the payment problem."

Happened to stumble across this, but I'm not sure if it totally addresses your initial statement...;)
 
Not to be stereotypical, but Mohammed Islam....I mean come on....LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Hope she gets her Nano back though.


I know. I don't find it funny in a mean-spirited way, as I don't think there is anything wrong with that name.

But, I would certainly find it odd if I met someone named Christian Jesus, or Israel Jew, or perhaps Joseph Mormon Smith.

Well, I've met a few Joseph Smiths, but in any case...
 
'Xenu Scientology' sounds pretty cool. :p So does Skywalker Jedi.



Mohammed is the world's most common name, so that's not very surprising. I have also met quite a few Mohammeds.

The surname 'Islam' is.....well.........not sure what to think, really.
 

Congradulations Natalie Lenhart! You've now immortalized your name and pic on the internet. Now whenever a future employer, co-worker, friend, potential date, etc. looks you up, they'll see you're a whiney, irresponsible drama queen. :p

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James Taylor offers fan new iPod

Folk singer James Taylor is giving a fan a new mp3 player after she had to give up her iPod to a New York taxi driver in lieu of payment.

Natalie Lenhart's credit card was declined after a $49 (£36) trip to the airport and was forced by officers at the scene to hand over her player.

The red iPod nano was loaded with old tunes including songs by Taylor.

Taylor told the New York Post he would send Lenhart a new iPod filled with his songs, along with a personal note.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7849979.stm


:)
 
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