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Originally posted by Dont Hurt Me
this was poor judgement on cbs even having mtv involved and i hope the fcc levels fines on cbs.

It really doesn't matter which of the two is held responsible, because they're both part of the same company.
 
people are over reacting. sure it was ok to talk about it for a day or two afterwards, but now there's law suits? come one. it's just a breast. how come they don't go after the people who air cops? that stereotypes all kinds of people and puts them in bad situations.

you can't even say **** nor damn without getting yelled at. it;s not like she was lusting towards the crowd with no clothes, it was her breast for 2 seconds, and there was something on it anyway! the FFC annoys me a great amount.
 
I can't see why the Yanks are getting soooo worked up about a bit of flesh....

i don't think it's so much about the flesh as it is the lack of decency and consideration. the superbowl is not just for adults, it's for all age groups.
i could care less about seeing janets floppy sac, it's the flasher mentality that i'm concerned about. to me, it's as if a perv went to the local ball park and exposed himself to everyone in the park, and when the ensuing outrage occurs, someone stands up and says 'oh, come on. it's just a little flesh'. it wasn't appropriate for the audience and the fame of the personalities involved doesn't diminish that fact.
i watched the half time show, it sucked so bad i didn't even notice janets floppy. it reminded me of that geico commercial....
'always mind your manners when your eating your sloppy joe-ohs, yeah. and on and on and on....peace!!'
 
I'm just pissed because everyone's talking about the tit and not the game! It was possibly the best SuperBowl of the last 25 years, AND ALL THEY TALK ABOUT IS A ****IN TIT!


And of course, I was sittin in front of a big screen TV and I missed it :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by wdlove
The naked breast isn't the real issue. The real issue is the Justin Timberlake performed violence on a women. It gives the wrong idea to young boys and men, that that kind of abuse of a female is OK!

The real beneficiary of this lawsuit will be the lawyers. In the end as usual all of us will pay.
Next time you find a girl with 'rip-off' clothing, take a picture and send it to me... ;)

Originally posted by johnnyjibbs
What is the world coming to? Sue me for posting! :rolleyes:
Where is your address?

I need to hand you the papers...

:D

Ahh, mental distress!



Such a stupid situation.

Suing... over that...

BTW, anyone think its weird... to have an ad with someones breast *almost* popping out next to this article... not kidding posting image...
 

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haha! i didn't notice that mrmacman.
seriously though, it was a publicity stunt, but the people who are complaining it was a publicity stunt are giving it the publicity.
not to mention a lot of the commercials were directed towards men who can drink and buy cars. come on! there were almost no commercials that were good for children, especially that McDonalds one:rolleyes:.
now all award shows are going to have a 5 minute delay. that annoys me. that means they can't say that it's live anymore.

people need to get over it.
 
Originally posted by bennetsaysargh
people are over reacting. sure it was ok to talk about it for a day or two afterwards, but now there's law suits? come one. it's just a breast. how come they don't go after the people who air cops? that stereotypes all kinds of people and puts them in bad situations.

you can't even say **** nor damn without getting yelled at. it;s not like she was lusting towards the crowd with no clothes, it was her breast for 2 seconds, and there was something on it anyway! the FFC annoys me a great amount.

If you think that it's acceptable to teach children viewers that any kind of indecent exposure or filthy language is okay, then that's really sad. People who want to do that stuff on TV, go ahead! But don't do it when younger, impressionable viewers are more likely to be watching. I'm sure there are plenty of parents out there who don't care what their kids watch, but there are just that many more that do.

Cops? Stereotypes? C'mon. These are not actors. They're airing actual people getting pursued and arrested. If they just aired a bunch of mundane traffic stops, would people still watch? No, it's the white trash with missing teeth and mullets that make the show "interesting". These kind of people exist! They may not be the norm, but that hardly means that airing the "most interesting" arrests and pursuits are stereotyping.

And now, on to the topic of this article, I agree, it is incredibly stupid. I too am sick of anyone (NOT just Americans, now THAT'S a stereotype!) who thinks they can sue at anything that moves and thinks money can fix their problems.

Thank you for listening to my first 2004 rant. :)
 
Originally posted by caveman_uk
I can't see why the Yanks are getting soooo worked up about a bit of flesh. It's strange that a nation that is otherwise so advanced hasn't advanced much beyond it's puritanical roots - witness the furore over this, the apparent willingness to bomb people in other countries and the execution of murderers. We'll be seeing them reintroduce the burning of witches and the stoning of gay people next...

...My rant over...bring on the rednecks...:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I don't think this lawsuit is irrelevant--the fact is, the entire half-time show was a display of sexually explicit behavior that was completely inappropriate for the audience. Americans don't get worked up about a bit of flesh, we just don't want national television networks showing our children porn.

I don't really want to get started on these other issues that you brought up, but I'll respond briefly. I find it ironic that you think only the United States had the "willingness" to go to war, when many other countries, including your own, supported us. Personally, I think President Bush made the right decision on a particularly difficult issue. Also, last time I checked, your country doesn't give gay people any more rights than the U.S., and at least some states here have begun to change that; your government is doing nothing.

You're entitled to your opinion, just I am to mine, but you sound like an immature, ignorant "redneck" yourself when you resort to name-calling those who disagree with you.
 
Originally posted by Hemingray
If you think that it's acceptable to teach children viewers that any kind of indecent exposure or filthy language is okay, then that's really sad. People who want to do that stuff on TV, go ahead! But don't do it when younger, impressionable viewers are more likely to be watching. I'm sure there are plenty of parents out there who don't care what their kids watch, but there are just that many more that do.

i don't think it's ok, but people are making too much of a big deal about it. not to mention that every time they talk about it on the news channels, they show the clip over and over again.
 
Originally posted by jamdr
I don't think this lawsuit is irrelevant--the fact is, the entire half-time show was a display of sexually explicit behavior that was completely inappropriate for the audience. Americans don't get worked up about a bit of flesh, we just don't want national television networks showing our children porn.
Ah...let's use that emotive word shall we? Porn. OK, so when a woman breast feeds a baby it's porn is it? Any exposure of 'the rude bits' is porn. All that art in the gallery? That's porn too. We have a daily newspaper that EVERY DAY has a topless girl on page 3. It's one of the biggest selling newspapers in the UK and last time I looked we hadn't all turned into drooling women-haters just 'cos we see tits everyday.

My point was how is a country that seems to accept that killing is OK when carried out by the state - either in a foreign land or in Texas - so mortified by seeing some middle-aged woman's flaccid tit. It seems a bit, you know, prudish on one hand and gung-ho on the other. We as a country may also be prepared to bomb foreigners but then we wouldn't have a national breakdown because we saw a semi-naked woman.

As for the other comments - I was using the stoning of gays and and burning of witches as examples of unacceptable behaviour that used to happen. It was an attempt at irony. Sorry you don't get it...
 
Originally posted by caveman_uk
My point was how is a country that seems to accept that killing is OK when carried out by the state - either in a foreign land or in Texas - so mortified by seeing some middle-aged woman's flaccid tit. It seems a bit, you know, prudish on one hand and gung-ho on the other. We as a country may also be prepared to bomb foreigners but then we wouldn't have a national breakdown because we saw a semi-naked woman.

Thanks for making broad generalizations about the US. It's ok though, we're used to it.

Fact is that the GREAT MAJORITY of Americans were not and are not offended. It's the small vocal minority that are making a big stink out of it and keeping it in the news.
 
Originally posted by caveman_uk
Ah...let's use that emotive word shall we? Porn. OK, so when a woman breast feeds a baby it's porn is it? Any exposure of 'the rude bits' is porn. All that art in the gallery? That's porn too. We have a daily newspaper that EVERY DAY has a topless girl on page 3. It's one of the biggest selling newspapers in the UK and last time I looked we hadn't all turned into drooling women-haters just 'cos we see tits everyday.

My point was how is a country that seems to accept that killing is OK when carried out by the state - either in a foreign land or in Texas - so mortified by seeing some middle-aged woman's flaccid tit. It seems a bit, you know, prudish on one hand and gung-ho on the other. We as a country may also be prepared to bomb foreigners but then we wouldn't have a national breakdown because we saw a semi-naked woman.

As for the other comments - I was using the stoning of gays and and burning of witches as examples of unacceptable behaviour that used to happen. It was an attempt at irony. Sorry you don't get it...

You are quite correct on all points. As i said before, the outrage over the performance shows a complete lack of maturity on the part of americans. i had no idea that breasts were so vulgar simply by their existance that children's heads would explode if they saw one. Guess what folks? kids know what tits are! kids know a lot more than you think, as they should-- they're not idiots. they know their dads and moms ****. kids have known these things since the beginning of time. And inherently kids do not see anything "dirty" about the human body until society convinces them that it's a complete taboo-- which then feeds a lot of mental health issues.

if i were christian, i would consider it an affront to God that humans treat his creations (the human body) like such filth. It's really pathetic.

At any rate, if your kids don't know what a breast is, or that women *have* breasts, you've done such a poor job of parenting that the "loose morals" involved in seeing one are the least of the kid's problems.

paul
 
Originally posted by caveman_uk
Ah...let's use that emotive word shall we? Porn. OK, so when a woman breast feeds a baby it's porn is it? Any exposure of 'the rude bits' is porn. All that art in the gallery? That's porn too. We have a daily newspaper that EVERY DAY has a topless girl on page 3. It's one of the biggest selling newspapers in the UK and last time I looked we hadn't all turned into drooling women-haters just 'cos we see tits everyday.

My point was how is a country that seems to accept that killing is OK when carried out by the state - either in a foreign land or in Texas - so mortified by seeing some middle-aged woman's flaccid tit. It seems a bit, you know, prudish on one hand and gung-ho on the other. We as a country may also be prepared to bomb foreigners but then we wouldn't have a national breakdown because we saw a semi-naked woman.

As for the other comments - I was using the stoning of gays and and burning of witches as examples of unacceptable behaviour that used to happen. It was an attempt at irony. Sorry you don't get it...

I really think that you and paulwhannel have hit the nail(s?) on the head here. American's have adopted the mentality that any kind of partial nudity is terrible, heinous, and pornographic. I think that it has come to a point where americans have some serious issues. Touching in any way is terribly wrong and sexual. Seeing anyone out of their fully-clothed state is porn. Everything is a taboo, and, really, people have lost touch with what is natural. I mean come on people! Its the human body!

I would have a problem with it if Janet and Justing stripped down to underwear and started writhing on stage though...
 
The Problem with the Superbowl performance wasnt that a breast was shown but that knowbody knew it was comming and no warning was giving so parents couldn't explain to there kids what was happening. Now on to the music industry as a whole is nothing but filth. Have you seen britney lately, shes not the wholesome act you want your 15 year old daughters tring to be like. I agree that this country has gotten way to conservative but i also want to watch decent programming too. I may like to look at breasts like the next guy does but i also would like to have some values in this country too and since MTV has come along those values have gone out the window.
 
The big problem with entertainment and values as a whole is that we are censored so much by what we can see that we think everything that is not the norm is bad and evil and if you watch this filth you are no better than the people airing it. But we are human and if i want to watch porn orhave sex before im married why should it be my fault for being human. If breasts were the norm on tv this halftime show whould not be a big deal at all and this country wound be better because everyone woulnd't be revolting for stuff that they arn't suppposed to see.
 
CBS should be fined, because there the ones who were in charge, but most people did't even see it. Im 17, and dureing half time theres no point in watching 7 people do a min of there songs. Alot of my freinds agree. Most people i know did't even see it, but we sure saw it plaseterd on the news in the morning. Ok it happend, things happen. I think its worse to continue to have it as a headline. I mean get over it. It happend, CBS did all they could when it happend. Why does our media have to be so ****ed up and draw out stupid events when people are dieing in iraq.


Just my 2 cents

ps. if i wanted to see a boob it definatly would't be hers lol.
 
Originally posted by paulwhannel
The real issue here is that Americans act like a bunch of 6th-graders whenever something like this happens. Guess what? 50% of people on earth have breasts! It's not a big deal! This sort of thing wouldn't be a publicity stunt if people had mature attitudes about the human body.

Because obviously the only enlightned views and only ones that should be considered ok are yours right? Simply because other people have a different view of propriety from you doesn't make yours better just different. Try accepting that we view things differently and get over it yourself.
 
Originally posted by caveman_uk
I can't see why the Yanks are getting soooo worked up about a bit of flesh. It's strange that a nation that is otherwise so advanced hasn't advanced much beyond it's puritanical roots
The fundemental flaw in this argument is that having more conservative views of what should be allowed on broadcast TV is somehow wrong. Maybe you disagree with it, but I get sick of hearing that somehow the view that its ok to display lots of flesh is the only right view.


the apparent willingness to bomb people in other countries and the execution of murderers. We'll be seeing them reintroduce the burning of witches and the stoning of gay people next...
In case you hadn't noticed, most of us over here don't LIKE the war. Also the idea that somehow we will suddenly burn witches is laughable at best.
 
Originally posted by Krizoitz
In case you hadn't noticed, most of us over here don't LIKE the war. Also the idea that somehow we will suddenly burn witches is laughable at best.

I for one think we were right in going to war, Sadam had to go and the world is better off without him.
 
Originally posted by zulgand04
CBS should be fined, because there the ones who were in charge, but most people did't even see it. Im 17, and dureing half time theres no point in watching 7 people do a min of there songs. Alot of my freinds agree. Most people i know did't even see it, but we sure saw it plaseterd on the news in the morning. Ok it happend, things happen. I think its worse to continue to have it as a headline. I mean get over it. It happend, CBS did all they could when it happend. Why does our media have to be so ****ed up and draw out stupid events when people are dieing in iraq.

CBS had nothing to do with Halftime it was all the NFL's doing, They were incharge of the whole night, CBS was just showing what the NFL told them to show
 
i don't find flesh on tv offensive at all.

what offends me is the sneakyness of a perverted mentality that wants to push the limits of what's acceptable in society into a degenerate spiral. for what? to remind the world that they and their music still exist. if breasts were a normal sight on tv, janet and what's-his-name would have probably been engaging in oral sex or something; not because sex is a wonderful thing, but because of a infantile desire to offend and attract attention. it's a cheap way to get the kiddies to buy their crap music. then we would be reading posts like 'what's the matter, you don't like oral sex?'

the point is, the superbowl was not the place for janet and what's-his-name to showcase their juvenile facination with the female anatomy.
 
Originally posted by Krizoitz

In case you hadn't noticed, most of us over here don't LIKE the war. Also the idea that somehow we will suddenly burn witches is laughable at best.
The witches comment....It was irony..remember irony? It's not just like goldy or bronzy except made of iron. Strangely enough Alanis Morissette didn't know what it was either so you're not alone...
 
I think that there is another point here that hasn't fallen under much scrutiny yet. Americans have adopted this sense that if they are mad about something, getting money from the people who caused the problem is the only way to solve it. Instead of organizing some sort of protest or campaign against it, they simply get their lawyers to start a class action suit against the causers of the problem. Getting rich really fast obviously will help the situation. I think that the situation has escalated to a point at which people think that they can simply sue major corporations for loads of money, and the major corporations have reached a point where they can simply settle for massive amounts of money and get everyone off their backs. I think that everyone who is suing and fighting is acting like a six year old to this entire situation. Come on people!
 
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