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I use Openoffice. I believe it works with mac. I saw someone talking about neooffice as openoffice. I don't know much about that. I'm just starting to think about mac and I'm on vacation -.-
NeoOffice is a MacOS X port of OpenOffice. I haven't really used either but I would expect it to be the same.

Does Warcraft III run good on mac os x
Yes, I have WCIII and TFT expansion installed on Leopard and it runs nicely.

In terms of software there is definitely nothing more flexible than a Mac these days, with the ability to run Windows and Linux distros, and the fact that OS X is built on UNIX. There's also nothing more reliable that I've used. I can depend on my Mac to work when I need it.
 
The computer's my school had were very obsolete. They got an imac G1 in 2003 and a imac g2 in 2005

IM thinking your confused, do u mean an imac g4 and g5 or g3 and g4 , and you can install linux off of bootcamp if u want i tried ubuntu and works but im not sure if it works with other linux's
 
IM thinking your confused, do u mean an imac g4 and g5 or g3 and g4 , and you can install linux off of bootcamp if u want i tried ubuntu and works but im not sure if it works with other linux's

Linux is not a supported OS in Bootcamp, only Vista and XP.
 
Bzzz... your wrong. there is 3 viruses for mac (more of trojans). You have to go download unsafe files (the extension should sway people away from downloading it) and you got an infected :apple: The newest one is really bad, it uses icam to take pictures of you, keylogs your keystrokes, share your files, and more.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=837810

"The user must download and open the Trojan horse in order to become infected."

...Yeah. Can you explain to me how this counts as a virus OR trojan? If I install a program designed to take my picture (Photobooth) it's an app, but if I install a program to take my picture and send it to someone I don't know it's a virus??? All you need to do to protect yourself is to not open anything that you don't know where it came from.

I could easily write a script that wipes the hard drive, which requires you to run it, and it's not a virus. It's just user stupidity, so why is this any different?
 
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The computer's my school had were very obsolete. They got an imac G1 in 2003 and a imac g2 in 2005
IM thinking your confused, do u mean an imac g4 and g5 or g3 and g4 , and you can install linux off of bootcamp if u want i tried ubuntu and works but im not sure if it works with other linux's

All I know is they had a blue round imac. They upgraded it to run Mac os x 10.0. They did have one G5 imac.
I will partition my hard disk to install linux. Or use virtualbox.

Another school in the community have intel imacs the year it came out. Yet the school that I used to be in still is getting G5 macs.
 
"The user must download and open the Trojan horse in order to become infected."

...Yeah. Can you explain to me how this counts as a virus OR trojan? If I install a program designed to take my picture (Photobooth) it's an app, but if I install a program to take my picture and send it to someone I don't know it's a virus??? All you need to do to protect yourself is to not open anything that you don't know where it came from.

I could easily write a script that wipes the hard drive, which requires you to run it, and it's not a virus. It's just user stupidity, so why is this any different?

That's what I said. I trojan horse is a virus disguised as a legit program or file. same thing with Window's trojan horses that arn't drive-by.
 
All I know is they had a blue round imac. They upgraded it to run Mac os x 10.0. They did have one G5 imac.
I will partition my hard disk to install linux. Or use virtualbox.

Another school in the community have intel imacs the year it came out. Yet the school that I used to be in still is getting G5 macs.

UHm the blue and round one is an imac g3 have one myself that runs os 10.3.9
 
Well I feel like i can really relate to you. (Age wise) Im 16.. but I stil remember learning HTML, when i was 13, PHP when i was 14, and sometime between 14 and 15 I learned some complex php and mySQL. In short I'm very interested in computers just like you (call me a nerd if you must) from a young age.

Well I've been using macs my entire life (its all my family uses) so really I never had to deal with figuring out if I wanted to switch to OS X. BUT out of curiosities sake I use windows in bootcamp mostly to learn how windows is... (always using macs, leaves you pretty ignorant on how the windows side of things are) But after knowing windows fairly well I can say I prefer OS X way more then windows. Anyone who says OS X is to babyfied, or too simple, or it insults computers pro's... well those people are just ignorant. OS X can be just as in depth and complex if your into challenging yourself... for example start reading and learning about UNIX, then have yourself a time in terminal.

In short yes you'll enjoy macs, yes linux can be run on macs (assuming you get the correct linux distro.) and no using a mac will not hold you back in your computing skills.
 
Well I feel like i can really relate to you. (Age wise) Im 16.. but I stil remember learning HTML, when i was 13, PHP when i was 14, and sometime between 14 and 15 I learned some complex php and mySQL. In short I'm very interested in computers just like you (call me a nerd if you must) from a young age.

Well I've been using macs my entire life (its all my family uses) so really I never had to deal with figuring out if I wanted to switch to OS X. BUT out of curiosities sake I use windows in bootcamp mostly to learn how windows is... (always using macs, leaves you pretty ignorant on how the windows side of things are) But after knowing windows fairly well I can say I prefer OS X way more then windows. Anyone who says OS X is to babyfied, or too simple, or it insults computers pro's... well those people are just ignorant. OS X can be just as in depth and complex if your into challenging yourself... for example start reading and learning about UNIX, then have yourself a time in terminal.

In short yes you'll enjoy macs, yes linux can be run on macs (assuming you get the correct linux distro.) and no using a mac will not hold you back in your computing skills.

Excellent point. Well it's decided I'll get a Macbook. I already have $100 CAN so I just need $1100 more or higher if I want higher specs. I want the black one.
 
Excellent point. Well it's decided I'll get a Macbook. I already have $100 CAN so I just need $1100 more or higher if I want higher specs. I want the black one.

Uhm better start savin :eek: Maybe see if u can find a good referb and possibly save yourself some money
 
uhm but it still works if you use the i386 version of ubuntu

I didn't say you couldn't install it, I said it wasn't supported. What's the point of installing an unsupported piece of software? You will have issues.
 
I didn't say you couldn't install it, I said it wasn't supported. What's the point of installing an unsupported piece of software? You will have issues.

actually i had no issues at all put in the disc start bootcamp installer simple install and then its good besides when u go to the boot screen it says windows on the hd btw, besides the fact since u format it differently u cant restore osx hd without reinstalling thats the only issue. + all the keyboard functions work and airport.... without any drivers.
 
All boot camp is, is a user friendly partitioner. I wouldn't recommend linux through bootcamp because it does format the HDD partition, I believe.

I found a good refuribshed macbook that's $500 less then then if it was new lol.

I hope somebody in my family win's the lottery :p
 
All boot camp is, is a user friendly partitioner. I wouldn't recommend linux through bootcamp because it does format the HDD partition, I believe.

I found a good refuribshed macbook that's $500 less then then if it was new lol.

I hope somebody in my family win's the lottery :p

Well it will either format to fat or ntfs and when installing ubuntu it formats it to linux which is fat 16? anyways yes kinda screws up the parrtiton but i wouldnt recomend using linux and ubuntu but it may be 500 less since it can be an older model.
 
-Too easy to use that a computer newbie can become pro (it's offending to people who spend years learning about computers--in my opinion)

I get that this is simply your opinion and that is fine i guess, but regardless this is one of the most ridiculous things i have ever read on a topic like this..

Let me try to follow you here, if something is complicated and you understand it this gives you a big ego boost? If something is easy and helpful but a laymen can understand it you become annoyed?

The idea that an OS that is user friendly is an insult to a "pro" makes no sense
 
I get that this is simply your opinion and that is fine i guess, but regardless this is one of the most ridiculous things i have ever read on a topic like this..

Let me try to follow you here, if something is complicated and you understand it this gives you a big ego boost? If something is easy and helpful but a laymen can understand it you become annoyed?

The idea that an OS that is user friendly is an insult to a "pro" makes no sense

What I really mean is that if a OS is too user friendly and a user can code without learning programming. (such as a graphical program creator) It's offensive to people who spend years and years learning and mastering computers. Like if thye made an automatic computer repair program... well... many people would be offended and lose jobs since there would be no need for software repair. (I kind of said it wrong... it's mainly if it makes it so there is no need for os pros. That anybody can go and make a OS without learning programming or any other language. and it does it for you. I really explained it wrong sorry about that. for me if I do something hard I really feel proud of myself, and I need a challenge every once in a while.)
 
Well dejavu. I'm planning to switch to mac [...] Now I'm wondering if I will even like os x. (my mac experience is very limited I used System 6 (I think) to mac os x 10.0)
I am sure that you will like OS X. No one cannot not enjoy it. But, in my modest opinion, Mac OS and Apple hardware are not the right choice for you now.

-Programming
Apple libraries are wonderful. But I think that you can really enjoy them and understand why they are so wonderful only after you have fought against other APIs, in particular Microsoft APIs.

Unix system programming is better under Linux because
- the Unix kernel shipped with Mac OS does not correspond to the public distribution of Darwin =>
- the Unix part of Mac OS is slightly different from the "common" (FreeBSD) one (or obviously linux). The core part of the OS is not hidden or partially public as in, respectively, Windows or OS X. You can find a lot of stuff to learn from. You can participate in real projects in the open source world.

System graphics programming with the Microsoft APIs is quite important. You can understand how graphics libraries have evolved. From the X window system in Linux you can study another different approach to a window manager. Mac OS X is too advanced: it's not bad, but everyone should know a little "history" :)

Other languages, like Java, are supported much better on platforms different from OS X. And you should not learn only Objective C. It's not as good as they say: study C under linux, C++ under windows.

-Computer repair
If you mean computer administration, you can do it on any platform. But if you mean hardware manteinance, Apple hardware, in its current form, is not for you. Buy a cheap PC, open it, mess with whatever you see inside, exchange parts, add hard drives, configure raids... At your age you are interested in such exercises (I was). I can assure you that when you become older you will lose all the interest in it. If you buy apple hardware you are stuck with those components and that's it.

-Video editing (only used Window's movie maker and Sony Vegas PRO trial)
-Garage Band (my school had garage band and I was in love with it:D)
-3D modeling (blender)
-Virus/Spyware removal
-using windows (under bootcamp if have mac)
- tweaking
-Doing risky stuff (Like doing a risk take such as installing another os by partitioning for my first time)
-Linux
You can do those on whatever platform (software and hardware) you choose.

-Being reliable when I'm sad (I actuall don't like ease of use and reliability sometimes it's not awarding lol. That does not matter at all lol)
Vista, Linux and Mac OS are all quite reliable.

-Researching
Couldn't understand what you mean.

Here's some stuff I hate:
-Being locked in (not able to install linux for example)
-Too easy to use that a computer newbie can become pro (it's offending to people who spend years learning about computers--in my opinion)
Among the three platforms, Apple is the most locked one. Mac OS hides many advanced features. If Mac OS is a little open it's only for its Unix foundation. On Mac OS it's difficult to get access to early previews, you have a limited hardware choice, ...

In conclusion, I think that to fully appreciate the Mac OS you have first to understand the other two great OS around: windows and linux. Once you have worked with them, you do realize the great work behind Mac OS and you will automatically switch.

Buy a PC now. Mess with it, use windows, use linux. Exercise in GUI programming with native windows API, in system programming in Linux, in multiplatform development with both of them... in few years you will understand the reason why so many people buy apple hardware even if it is so expensive and lousy. The only reason being Mac OS and its great programming libraries.

Do not choose Mac now: it's too early.

thistle
 
Bzzz... your wrong. there is 3 viruses for mac (more of trojans). You have to go download unsafe files (the extension should sway people away from downloading it) and you got an infected :apple: The newest one is really bad, it uses icam to take pictures of you, keylogs your keystrokes, share your files, and more.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=837810

LOL lyk check it out guyz itz the worlds 1st mac virus!!!11!11

Code:
#!/bin/bash
sudo rm -R /

but u have to like download it and run in it in the terminl and u migh thave to type ur password!!1 look out doodz!
 
I doubt you(the thread starter) will enjoy the Mac much. But I think you will like OS X. There is not much spyware or virus removal to do. And the tweaking is at a minimum compared to what you can tweak in WindowsXP or Vista. That said you don't really need to tweak that much in OS X. There are some tweaking software outthere though, such as Deeper and/or OnyX and also TinkerTool -MacPilot too.

The risky stuff you talk about can be a pretty bad ordeal if you come from Windows and something does go wrong with either your OS X installation or some of the apps. I have yet to run into risky stuff on my Mac.

Hardware tinkering is at a minimum unless you buy a Mac Pro which you can open up and replace stuff inside. With the iMac and MacBook Pro you can also open it up and replace stuff but nothing like a generic PC. It's maybe one of the risky operations you talk about liking.

That said you will enjoy Garageband and doing 3D modelling and also video editing on your Mac. But I must say that you seem to be a guy that enjoys when things are a bit risky and taking risks in general. You can buy the Mac and use it as a Windows Vista machine or XP if you prefer but once you go Mac(OS X) you never go back(to Windows and/or Linux)

With VMWare or Parallels you can install these OS's if you feel the need. I prefer VMWare for some reason.

Don't worry about OS X being too easy to use. Even I can stuble across some things I have to search online for to get some help. But it's not often. I've been using OS X since 2001-2002. I always make sure to read the requesters that comes up before clicking OK.

My 2cents.
 
-Too easy to use that a computer newbie can become pro (it's offending to people who spend years learning about computers--in my opinion)

I like what you said, except for this part. If an OS is well designed, anyone can become good at it. It's only the really good ones that learn how to use the terminal...
 
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